Red Arrows - GAAW

galwayrush · 27-08-2011 10:59pm

celty wrote: »

As far as I know, no Irish Airport is being used to transport Russian troops to commit atrocities in Chechnya.

Not much point,if they were, they would be going in the wrong direction.:pac:

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 12:20am

Amhran Nua wrote: »

The GAAW are one of the tentacles of the United Left Alliance/People before Profit/Socialist Workers Party/Militant Labour/Socialist party or whatever they are calling themselves these days.

Wow, there's so many people in that conspiracy of yours they probably make up the majority of the Irish population.
What is "democratic" about an air show? Having an airshow is democratic but not having it isn't? I don't remember being asked to vote for it either way.
End of story is that not enough people supported it so it is gone. GAAW nothing to do with it really, just nobody gave a hoot so it died a death.

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 12:24am

celty wrote: »

Yeah, and you sound like a good ole' FF / Profit before People supporter. Once upon a time we had to put up with their buffoonery, in fact we still do as our wages are slashed, taxes increased, so that we can pay off their good friends the bankers who lent too much money to their developer buddies, after rubbing shoulders with them in the tent at the Galway Races.

A swing and a miss, although it's great the way you haven't addressed any points raised directly. I'm going to go ahead and assume you have signatures turned off here...

celty wrote: »

Can you not see that when the Americans use our airport to commit atrocities in countries where they have no business in interfering, then we are complicit?

As far as I know, no Irish Airport is being used to transport Russian troops to commit atrocities in Chechnya.

What does that have to do with the Galway airshow? If the Russian navy shelled Cork harbour I guarantee the GAAW would be there front and centre cheering them on. They're what the Russians called "useful idiots", and say what you like about the Russians, they are past masters at manipulating the lesser lights.

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 12:29am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Wow, there's so many people in that conspiracy of yours they probably make up the majority of the Irish population.

No, the crazies may change their names regularly and often to hide their real nature (look up entryism, hallmark of the trots and the reason the SWP was ejected from the Labour party), but the most recent estimates put their total active numbers at less than 500.

Dan_Solo wrote: »

What is "democratic" about an air show? Having an airshow is democratic but not having it isn't? I don't remember being asked to vote for it either way.
End of story is that not enough people supported it so it is gone. GAAW nothing to do with it really, just nobody gave a hoot so it died a death.

Thats... impressive. You managed to imply that entertainment should be voted on democratically, and that one of the most popular displays on the Galway calendar died unlamented, all in a couple of paragraphs.

I rest my case.

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 12:34am

Amhran Nua wrote: »

What does that have to do with the Galway airshow? If the Russian navy shelled Cork harbour I guarantee the GAAW would be there front and centre cheering them on. They're what the Russians called "useful idiots", and say what you like about the Russians, they are past masters at manipulating the lesser lights.

Your usual hyberbole Amhran. Very very yawn.

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 12:37am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Your usual hyberbole Amhran. Very very yawn.

And not a denial in sight.

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 12:41am

Amhran Nua wrote: »

No, the crazies may change their names regularly and often to hide their real nature (look up entryism, hallmark of the trots and the reason the SWP was ejected from the Labour party), but the most recent estimates put their total active numbers at less than 500.

The Labour Party? Those guys who voted in FF's last suicide budget? Why would anybody want to join them?

Amhran Nua wrote: »

Thats... impressive. You managed to imply that entertainment should be voted on democratically, and that one of the most popular displays on the Galway calendar died unlamented, all in a couple of paragraphs.

So popular nobody could be arsed to pay a bean for it.
Awfully popular that.
If it's anti-democratic not to have it, then it is simple (not simple enough perhaps?) logic that it is "democratic" to have an airshow? Show me the ballot papers then.
Lamented? Nope, haven't heard a single person mention it until this thread TBH, sorry.

Amhran Nua wrote: »

I rest my case.

What case? That you like noisy planes? I hear land on the approaches to Shannon runaway is cheap. Why don't you move there?

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 12:43am

Amhran Nua wrote: »

And not a denial in sight.

I deny you have any sense in your posts.
Sure all the pro-air show people are CIA and MI5 plants with Nazi sympathies and they'd love to see Ireland invaded by British Army as they love the RAF and the Queen.
Easy this, isn't it?

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 12:49am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

The Labour Party? Those guys who voted in FF's last suicide budget? Why would anybody want to join them?

I don't know, maybe you could ask Joe Higgins, he was part of the Labour party before they put a boot up his arse on a doorward trajectory along with the rest of the trots.

Dan_Solo wrote: »

So popular nobody could be arsed to pay a bean for it.
Awfully popular that.
If it's anti-democratic not to have it, then it is simple (not simple enough perhaps?) logic that it is "democratic" to have an airshow? Show me the ballot papers then.
Lamented? Nope, haven't heard a single person mention it until this thread TBH, sorry.

You're not really helping yourself here. I mean with over two thousand results on boards alone, to say nothing of the wider media, its a given that many people enjoyed the airshow. What were the attendance numbers again?

Dan_Solo wrote: »

What case? That you like noisy planes? I hear land on the approaches to Shannon runaway is cheap. Why don't you move there?

Okay, so now you're framing your objection as a noise complaint?

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 12:50am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I deny you have any sense in your posts.
Sure all the pro-air show people are CIA and MI5 plants with Nazi sympathies and they'd love to see Ireland invaded by British Army as they love the RAF and the Queen.
Easy this, isn't it?

It's funny watching the trots twist on the hook.

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 12:51am

Amhran Nua wrote: »

It's funny watching the trots twist on the hook.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander herr commandant.

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 12:55am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

What's good for the goose is good for the gander herr commandant.

No problem tovarich Kommissar, I'm rather enjoying myself.

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 12:57am

Amhran Nua wrote: »

I don't know, maybe you could ask Joe Higgins, he was part of the Labour party before they put a boot up his arse on a doorward trajectory along with the rest of the trots.

Makes no sense. Ask him what? Why he'd rather not be in the Labour Party now anyway? Do you just stick the words "Joe Higgins" into a bunch of otherwise randomly selected words and assume it's biting critique of leftist politics in Ireland?

Amhran Nua wrote: »

You're not really helping yourself here. I mean with over two thousand results on boards alone, to say nothing of the wider media, its a given that many people enjoyed the airshow. What were the attendance numbers again?

Search result numbers. The last resort of the truly desperate.
amhran nua is a nazi gets 40,900 matches in a Google search. PROOF!

Amhran Nua wrote: »

Okay, so now you're framing your objection as a noise complaint?

Nope. More makey up drivel. The only good insult you seem to be able to come up with is that you don't even appear to have read my post, which is quite insulting. :P

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 1:06am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Makes no sense. Ask him what? Why he'd rather not be in the Labour Party now anyway? Do you just stick the words "Joe Higgins" into a bunch of otherwise randomly selected words and assume it's biting critique of leftist politics in Ireland?

I'm sure it sounds like that to someone with an infirm grasp on reality.

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Search result numbers. The last resort of the truly desperate.
amhran nua is a nazi gets 40,900 matches in a Google search. PROOF!

Really? Impressive. Bosco is a nazi gets almost a million, but then again I wasn't searching specifically on boards, you know, the Irish site for Irish people. As for the last resort of the desperate, I don't suppose you've ever heard of Godwin's law?

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Nope. More makey up drivel. The only good insult you seem to be able to come up with is that you don't even appear to have read my post, which is quite insulting. :P

But I'm not trying to insult anyone, merely highlight the facts. I've nothing to fear from reality, having faced down legal and beaurocratic challenges from the muppets in the United Left Alliance already.

apoeiguq3094y · 28-08-2011 1:21am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

What's good for the goose is good for the gander herr commandant.

Amhran Nua wrote: »

No problem tovarich Kommissar, I'm rather enjoying myself.

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 1:24am

apoeiguq3094y wrote: »

I only wish that were the case my friend, sadly I'm quite serious. I await the imminent battering of a couple of well worn "report" buttons from the revolutionary brotherhood.

samdeman · 28-08-2011 1:31am

We Need Community wrote: »

That makes it all ok so, sure who cares if a million people were killed, a few Irish people were kept in work

yes it does

samdeman · 28-08-2011 1:43am

maybe its time for a member of the great unwashed to come on here to give their side of the story?

samdeman · 28-08-2011 1:53am

samdeman wrote: »

is anyone else just sick to the teeth of these people? please add a thanks to this post if you are so we can see how many people feel the same. maybe we can start a counter group called "galway alliance against the GAAW"

if we get to 100 thanks i will write to the advertiser myself and everyone can have an input into what goes into the letter!

Discodog · 28-08-2011 10:01am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

What is "democratic" about an air show? Having an airshow is democratic but not having it isn't? I don't remember being asked to vote for it either way.
End of story is that not enough people supported it so it is gone. GAAW nothing to do with it really, just nobody gave a hoot so it died a death.

Rubbish. The Airshow drew huge crowds, easily the biggest for any local event. That is real democracy. The Council didn't support it & the GAAW opposed it. Some of the local businesses that made money out of it also didn't want to contribute to what was a free event for the public.

You will notice that plenty of other towns & Cities in Ireland are happy to run an Airshow & welcome military aircraft.

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 10:41am

Discodog wrote: »

Rubbish. The Airshow drew huge crowds, easily the biggest for any local event. That is real democracy. The Council didn't support

So the ELECTED Council VOTED to not support it? How much more democratic do you want, huh?
The people of Galway therefore decided they didn't want the airshow. Blame freedom baby.

Pure Sound · 28-08-2011 4:57pm

Discodog wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting that North Korea doesn't have nuclear weapon & that Iran are not trying to build one ?

Mind you by GAAW logic if Iran nuked Israel it would be seen as justified.

No I am actually saying the exact opposite, Iran and North Korea are dangerous yet America have not invaded them, what are you talking about if Iran nuked Israel, that would be wrong too and unjustified, who could possibly think that was right, GAAW are anti war, why do you think they would celebrate it

tfitzgerald wrote: »

Ok glad we are not exaggerating here America was going to defend itself with or without our help

Defend itself, from what exactly, all I'm seein is attacking, 3000 Americans die in the world trade centre so over 1 million Afgans and Iraqis killed, thats hardly fair by any standards, we should not be allowing them to refuel here even if they are creating jobs in the airport

samdeman wrote: »

yes it does

So are you saying that a couple of jobs created in Ireland is more valuable then the lives of people from the middle east, why do you think that we are more valuable, we all have the same colour blood, we are all made the same way

Amhran Nua wrote: »

waffle waffle waffle

Amhran Nua considered a Central Party, seems very right wing to me with these comments

Amhran Nua · 28-08-2011 5:08pm

We Need Community wrote: »

Amhran Nua considered a Central Party, seems very right wing to me with these comments

That really seems to be the done thing with you people, isn't it - if someone doesn't agree with you, call them nazis. And no, AN is not considered a central party.

And still not a denial in sight.

Pure Sound · 28-08-2011 6:01pm

samdeman wrote: »

if we get to 100 thanks i will write to the advertiser myself and everyone can have an input into what goes into the letter!

Why exactly do you need 100 thanks to write a letter, can you not do it on your own or are you so unsure about your beliefs that you need to be reassured by other posters

Amhran Nua wrote: »

That really seems to be the done thing with you people, isn't it - if someone doesn't agree with you, call them nazis. And no, AN is not considered a central party.

And still not a denial in sight.

Denial about what exactly, I have read your posts in this thread and that is the second time you have said that, who is in denial and what exactly are they denying, so are ye right wing then, you people :pac:

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 7:00pm

Amhran Nua, when are you going to deny those accusations put to you? What are you trying to hide?

ben.schlomo · 28-08-2011 7:26pm

We Need Community wrote: »

No I am actually saying the exact opposite, Iran and North Korea are dangerous yet America have not invaded them, what are you talking about if Iran nuked Israel, that would be wrong too and unjustified, who could possibly think that was right, GAAW are anti war, why do you think they would celebrate it

Defend itself, from what exactly, all I'm seein is attacking, 3000 Americans die in the world trade centre so over 1 million Afgans and Iraqis killed, thats hardly fair by any standards, we should not be allowing them to refuel here even if they are creating jobs in the airport

So are you saying that a couple of jobs created in Ireland is more valuable then the lives of people from the middle east, why do you think that we are more valuable, we all have the same colour blood, we are all made the same way
Amhran Nua considered a Central Party, seems very right wing to me with these comments

Ah now are you for real? In all seriousness do you honestly believe America had no justification to attack Afghanistan.

Pure Sound · 28-08-2011 8:20pm

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Ah now are you for real? In all seriousness do you honestly believe America had no justification to attack Afghanistan.

Justification maybe, not destruction to the extent they did, Afganistan as a country had nothing to do with the attacks, Al Queda were just using it as a base. Think of it from a different perspective if it was the IRA that carried out the attacks would the USA be justified in going to war with Ireland killing thousands of civilians with no connections to the IRA.

Dan_Solo · 28-08-2011 9:09pm

We Need Community wrote: »

Justification maybe, not destruction to the extent they did, Afganistan as a country had nothing to do with the attacks, Al Queda were just using it as a base. Think of it from a different perspective if it was the IRA that carried out the attacks would the USA be justified in going to war with Ireland killing thousands of civilians with no connections to the IRA.

Well the Taliban who were the government there at the time had given official protection to Osama Bin Laden. The US had no option except to take them on if they wanted to get him.
Of course the fact that their "allies" in Pakistan hid him there for most of the last ten years didn't help matters much!
Compared to Iraq it's about as close to a "just war" as you could imagine.

Pure Sound · 28-08-2011 9:29pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Compared to Iraq it's about as close to a "just war" as you could imagine.

I suppose as war goes it was a resonable response to the attacks, it still doesn't mean Ireland as a nation should support it

ben.schlomo · 28-08-2011 10:31pm

We Need Community wrote: »

Justification maybe, not destruction to the extent they did, Afganistan as a country had nothing to do with the attacks, Al Queda were just using it as a base. Think of it from a different perspective if it was the IRA that carried out the attacks would the USA be justified in going to war with Ireland killing thousands of civilians with no connections to the IRA.

I do believe dan solo answered for me so no need to add to it more.

Red Arrows - GAAW

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