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Is there a staircase inside the Wellington Monument in the Phoenix Park?

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,880 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Right.
    Right. The completion consisted of adding the bronze reliefs to the outside. The obelisk, and any stairs which may have been inside it, was finished in 1820.
    The contract was awarded to Cockburn & Williams in 1817 and construction of the stepped base, pedestal, obelisk and statue pedestals was completed

    Sorry, what was that Christine?
    completed

    Pardon?
    completed

    Thanks, go on
    in 1820,

    When, sorry?
    1820,

    Mmm hmm
    albeit some 16ft (4.9 metres) shorter than intended. The sheer size of the monument (220ft (67 metres) from base to apex and 120ft (27.4 metres) square at base) ensured that most of the £20,000 rasied was spent on the masonary core and granite ashlar facing, leaving little or nothing for the proposed statues and bronze bas-reliefs on three sides of the pedestal. The names of Wellington's previous victories are fixed to each face of the obelisk, the letters reportedly cast from two captured cannon. In 1829, when Catholic Emancipation was carried during Wellington's term as Prime Minister, the testimonial fund was revived, but it was not until after his death that work resumed (1857), and in 1861 the pedestal bas reliefs by J.R. Kirk, Thomas Farrell and John Hogan (executed by John Valentine Hogan) were finally unveiled.

    Right. And then they carved the staircase out with a big bendy corkscrew?
    ...

    (quotes from Casey, Dublin: the city within the Grand and Royal Canals and the Circular Road, 2005, p.308)


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,322 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Right.
    albeit some 16ft (4.9 metres) shorter than intended. The sheer size of the monument (220ft (67 metres) from base to apex and 120ft (27.4 metres) square at base) ensured that most of the £20,000 rasied was spent on the masonary core and granite ashlar facing, leaving little or nothing for the proposed statues and bronze bas-reliefs on three sides of the pedestal. The names of Wellington's previous victories are fixed to each face of the obelisk, the letters reportedly cast from two captured cannon. In 1829, when Catholic Emancipation was carried during Wellington's term as Prime Minister, the testimonial fund was revived, but it was not until after his death that work resumed (1857), and in 1861 the pedestal bas reliefs by J.R. Kirk, Thomas Farrell and John Hogan (executed by John Valentine Hogan) were finally unveiled.

    (quotes from Casey, Dublin: the city within the Grand and Royal Canals and the Circular Road, 2005, p.308)
    Who edited this publication?

    120ft (27.4 metres) [actually 36.6 metres]

    rasied

    masonary

    Such sloppiness in a single paragraph (if the above quote was in fact from a single paragraph) does not inspire confidence.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,362 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Esel wrote: »
    Who edited this publication?

    120ft (27.4 metres) [actually 36.6 metres]

    rasied

    masonary

    Such sloppiness in a single paragraph (if the above quote was in fact from a single paragraph) does not inspire confidence.
    27.4 is obviously a typo. Hardly uncommon.

    The other two spelling mistakes don't exist. Maybe you should read the source before you comment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,322 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Mellor wrote: »
    27.4 is obviously a typo. Hardly uncommon..
    Typo by Beernut or the author quoted? And 'obviously' a typo?
    Mellor wrote: »
    The other two spelling mistakes don't exist. Maybe you should read the source before you comment.
    A quote is a quote. For all I knew, the text quoted was copied and pasted from an online source.

    Maybe you should take the rebar out of your arse.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,362 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Esel wrote: »
    Typo by Beernut or the author quoted? And 'obviously' a typo?
    by the author/editor.
    It's a pretty well regarded book on irish historically.
    A quote is a quote. For all I knew, the text quoted was copied and pasted from an online source.

    Maybe you should take the rebar out of your arse.

    The link to the book was provided two or three times. It's on online scan from the book. if you read it you'll see it the words were spelled correctly.

    As for you last comment. Don't think there's any need for that.
    Would expect better from a mod.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,880 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Esel wrote: »
    Who edited this publication?
    I transcribed it. Quite poorly, as it turns out -- both typos are mine and do not appear in the book. I apologise for not meeting the normally high standards of spelling and grammar found throughout Boards.ie.

    It will not happen agian.


  • Registered Users Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Stripey Cat


    It is perfectly understandable that you transcribed it poorly. It must be quite exciting being so sarcastic to someone asking a reasonable question about the wisdom of using books published before the completion of a structure (one of which describes a fictional statue as if it was there) as a source of information about it. You were probably jiggling up and down on your chair while you were writing.

    I accept your apology.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,362 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    It is perfectly understandable that you transcribed it poorly. It must be quite exciting being so sarcastic to someone asking a reasonable question about the wisdom of using books published before the completion of a structure (one of which describes a fictional statue as if it was there) as a source of information about it. You were probably jiggling up and down on your chair while you were writing.

    I accept your apology.
    The book was publish in the last 10 years?


    The other a source was describing the design. I think discussing this subject is a bit beyond you capabilities if you struggle so much to follow the previous posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Esel wrote: »
    Maybe you should take the rebar out of your arse.

    Woah there now.


    No need to get tetchy


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