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hiefer and cull cow finishing diets

  • 25-08-2011 3:56pm
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    49801
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    starting to consider the options for the spring 2010 born hiefers
    Aiming to have them gone before start of december and any housing. so an 80day feeding period roughly
    considering putting them on 3kg of rolled barley at 279/ton for 6weeks and then maybe 5kg of beeflav for the final 5weeks. last year i added maize meal to beeflav for the final 3wks.
    coop also mentioned 'maize munch' is good for fattening at 268/ton... dont have experience with this product. Could i use that for the 80days or just the final few weeks?:confused:

    I will also be slaughtering 6 cull cows. should i put them on a different diet to the heifers? plenty grass here yet.


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  • #2
    bob charles
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    grass for the old girls, energy in the fed for the young ladies.


  • #3
    blue5000
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    bob charles wrote: »
    grass for the old girls, energy in the fed for the young ladies.

    +1 waste of money feedin meal to culls

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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    charityboy
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    bob charles wrote: »
    grass for the old girls, energy in the fed for the young ladies.
    +1 thats the way we work it


  • #5
    keep going
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    i was thinking of fattening culls on 3 kg ration +beet + silage,what do ye think would 90 to 100 days do them


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    blue5000
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    It would probably convert the cow from a P=3 to an O+4, put perhaps 50kg cw on, question is what would it cost?:pac:

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • #7
    keep going
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    around 2500 iwas thinking for around 16 to 18 cows.would add aprox 5000+ to the value


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    bob charles
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    keep going wrote: »
    around 2500 iwas thinking for around 16 to 18 cows.would add aprox 5000+ to the value

    Your allowing yourself around 1.47e per day per animal. Costs would be a bit higher than that with mortality also thrown in


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    whelan1
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    soya is 320 at the minute and is 335 to forwrd buy- thats what i was told yesterday and looking at the journal it has come down a good bit, would it be good value to buy some now?


  • #10
    49801
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    bob charles wrote: »
    grass for the old girls, energy in the fed for the young ladies.

    i just weaned the 3 empty cows so they are in the shed on straw only till they dry up. Then they'll go back out to grass for a their final run.

    another cow that failed to produce a calf (even though scanned in calf:eek:) has been on grass for the summer and will be slaughtered with the stock bull next week.

    So i'd have a total of 6 cull cows. hardly warrants a separate grazing group.

    I've plenty grass so not inclined to mart them either.

    If i did run them separately what would you put each group on?


  • #11
    Bizzum
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    Are these suckler cows or dairy? Maybe I missed the answer somewhere!


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  • #12
    49801
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    Bizzum wrote: »
    Are these suckler cows or dairy? Maybe I missed the answer somewhere!

    sucker cows only


  • #13
    keep going
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    bob charles wrote: »
    Your allowing yourself around 1.47e per day per animal. Costs would be a bit higher than that with mortality also thrown in
    gwizz i dont think im going to loose many of my own cows,maybe different if i was buying in.beet will be self fed and i think i can get rolled barley at 220


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