CAN-AM SPYDER
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28-08-2011 7:31pm#1
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Cuddlesworth wrote: »Both the Grinall and the Can-Am can only ever be classified as trikes because of the width of the rear axle and as such need a full B license to drive since they are single passenger vehicles only
The Grinall is not single-passenger: has two full car seats. The Can-Am is like a bike, seat-wise.
Interestingly, one of the Grinall's I mentioned, because it's officially a car......has to be NCT'd, except for.............NCT can't test it because........it doesn't have 4 wheels, so.............it's exempt...........which means..........I mean, do you really have the time regarding the insurance........??
As for the legality - I will adopt the EU hat here - if it's legal in any other member state, it's legal here. DoE et al can go boil their head......Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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Ok, I did more research on this: a Grinall, Can-Am etc, can all be driven on a B (Car) licence.
Piaggio MP3's, etc, need a bike licence. That is the official situation - you can't drive an MP3 on a car (B) licence, as the front track width is considered 'single track', and is, ergo, a motorcycle.
Here's the extract:
"Piaggio MP3 scooter
While a Piaggio has 3 wheels, the two front wheels in this instance are regarded (under EU Directive on Type Approval of Vehicles) as being one wheel (ie twinned wheels), and therefore the vehicle is considered as being a motorcycle (two wheel) and not a tricycle (three wheel). "Cuddlesworth wrote: »The reason you can ride a MP3 is due to the width between the two wheels on the front axle. It becomes classified as a trike(three wheeled vehicle), which is only rideable on a B class license. .
I don't know if the above is a typo - it's actually the opposite - OP can't ride an MP3 because it's a bike. It is not wide enough to be classified as a tricycle (which a B licence lets you drive).
It is also deliberate - iirc Piaggio deliberately made the MP3 narrow - to avoid the need for a car licence.
If, however, the wheels are spaced to exceed 460mm centre-centre (of contact patch), it's a..........tricycle = car = B licence !
Confused now ? I know I am !!
Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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