Asked my religion in hospital

robindch

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

There's always hope for the living dead right up to their last few moments

Interesting -- people who aren't members of your religious club are "the living dead"?

iguana

robindch wrote: »

Interesting -- people who aren't members of your religious club are "the living dead"?

Always back to the zombies on this thread!

The Mad Hatter

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

No. All they imply is free will. There's always hope for the living dead right up to their last few moments, but for most their hearts will be too hard, and their vainity and pride got better of them a long time ago.

"Oh, Quadratic Equation, why ever do you keep referring to atheists as the living dead? It seems ever so clever and cunning, and I'm sure we all feel really stung by it."

it's great that someone calling people not in their club "the living dead" is accusing them of pride, and very amusing that someone who believes a supposed omniscient omnipotent deity gives a fig about anything they think or do, calls other people vain...

norrie rugger

I got an infraction, in Christianity, for acting a lot less trollish TBH

Sarky

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

"Oh, Quadratic Equation, why ever do you keep referring to atheists as the living dead? It seems ever so clever and cunning, and I'm sure we all feel really stung by it."

When I was younger, my biggest wish was to die and get resurrected as a deathknight from the D&D Monster Manual 2.

The "living dead" quip stings me.

Of course that was before I discovered Exalted and realised that people who write about evil for D&D were pussies.

Galvasean

norrie rugger wrote: »

I got an infraction, in Christianity, for acting a lot less trollish TBH

Moral of story: hang out here more

Actually wouldn't dead Christians be 'the living dead' since they live on in the afterlife after death.
Atheists on the other hand would be the 'dead dead'.

i just keep coming back to life, does that make me "the living"? :pac::pac::cool::cool:

Galvasean

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

No. All they imply is free will. There's always hope for the living dead right up to their last few moments, but for most their hearts will be too hard, and their vainity and pride got better of them a long time ago.

So what you are saying is I can live the life of sin and profess my loyalty to your God at the last possible moment and he will let me into the exclusive paradise he set up for those who dedicated their entire lives to him?
Hate to break it you you, but your God is a sucker! I wonder if I can offer him a long stand...

sensibleken

Grrraaaaaiiiiiinnsssss.

Im vegetarian

Galvasean

sensibleken wrote: »

Grrraaaaaiiiiiinnsssss.

Im vegetarian

Jesus loves you anyway

sensibleken

Galvasean wrote: »

Jesus loves you anyway

He said that, but then he never called me afterwards:( i feel so used and foolish. not to mention sore and bow legged!

norrie rugger

You will he ok, he can stay on the wood for three hours but takes him three days to rise it again

norrie rugger

norrie rugger wrote: »

You will he ok, he can stay on the wood for three hours but takes him three days to rise it again

the second coming?

HugoBradyBrown

I have heard it suggested by religious people that they know of some notorious atheists who, when hospitalized, have been heard to utter with feeling such ejaculations as 'I believe in the infallibility of the Pope'!

Paparazzo

paddyandy wrote: »

Daylight Athiests: Ask the dying if they believe or ask those who attend them when the fear touches and tremulous lips and quivering features and quavering voice starts to utter the inner torments of a life badly lived?????THEY think very differently when sickness has tempered their raging arrogance.

I assume you're christian think we'll all convert to your god at the last minute.
None of the Hindu gods, not Taizu, nor any of the tens of thousands of other gods. As Homer said, you're possibly believing in the wrong god and making him angrier every day. While he respects the athiest scepticism.

iguana

One of the last times I was in hospital I pointed to dragon flying at me from the corner of the room and asked my husband to fight it for me. (At least that's what he tells me.) Does that mean that deep, deep down I believe in dragons?

norrie rugger

iguana wrote: »

One of the last times I was in hospital I pointed to dragon flying at me from the corner of the room and asked my husband to fight it for me. (At least that's what he tells me.) Does that mean that deep, deep down I believe in dragons?

Well you are an iguana. Dragons could be iguana gods

paddyandy

WRONG about my Religion and would not bring it on to this sort of place at any time for ANY reason.

The Quadratic Equation

Galvasean wrote: »

So what you are saying is I can live the life of sin and profess my loyalty to your God at the last possible moment and he will let me into the exclusive paradise he set up for those who dedicated their entire lives to him?
Hate to break it you you, but your God is a sucker! I wonder if I can offer him a long stand...

Hate to break it to you, you can try it if you want, but he won't be listening to any bluff or excuses.

Chinasea

Was filling in a form in admissions and was asked for my 'christian' name.

HugoBradyBrown

Chinasea wrote: »

Was filling in a form in admissions and was asked for my 'christian' name.

I have been in this situation, but the woman at admissions told me that since the Sisters owned the hospital, they would design the forms. Since someone was going to plunge a scalpel into me the following morning in that building, I felt I was compromised and so my cough was softened! (As she expected it would be, I imagine!)

Opinicus

Iwas in A&E last night and was asked to confirm all my details. DOB? address? Catholic? Telephone? etc.
Didn't bother changing Catholic to no religion cos the ****ing leg was hanging off me and I just wanted some drugs ASAP!:mad: anyway turns out I have cellulitis, lovely.

HugoBradyBrown

Opinicus wrote: »

Iwas in A&E last night and was asked to confirm all my details. DOB? address? Catholic? Telephone? etc.
Didn't bother changing Catholic to no religion cos the ****ing leg was hanging off me and I just wanted some drugs ASAP!:mad: anyway turns out I have cellulitis, lovely.

Yes, isn't cellulite a terrible thing? I don't know what they do for it.

The Quadratic Equation

Opinicus wrote: »

Didn't bother changing Catholic to no religion cos the ****ing leg was hanging off me and I just wanted some drugs ASAP!:mad: anyway turns out I have cellulitis, lovely.

Sorry to hear that mate, hope it clears up for you soon. Quad.

Opinicus

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Yes, isn't cellulite a terrible thing? I don't know what they do for it.

not cellulite, cellulitis is an infection of some of the layers of skin. Can't even stand on it now. been in bed since yesterday, thank godthankfully i have my laptop:)

Opinicus

Opinicus wrote: »

not cellulite, cellulitis is an infection of some of the layers of skin. Can't even stand on it now. been in bed since yesterday, thank godthankfully i have my laptop:)

Ouch - not to mention yeucch.

A couple of years ago I got an insect bite of some kind on holiday abroad and developed cellulitis as a result, between my toes and instep. It took 5 courses of antibiotics before it was gone - and I wasn't walking right for about 6 weeks. I still have a discoloured patch of skin to remind me where it was.

Best of luck with it.

Galvasean

Paparazzo wrote: »

I assume you're christian think we'll all convert to your god at the last minute.
None of the Hindu gods, not Taizu, nor any of the tens of thousands of other gods. As Homer said, you're possibly believing in the wrong god and making him angrier every day. While he respects the athiest scepticism.

In such situations you cry out to the God you think can give you the best deal. I will give my life to the blood god Khorne in exchange for a big axe and demons to lead into battle. We will plunder and defile many planets in his name.

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

Hate to break it to you, you can try it if you want, but he won't be listening to any bluff or excuses.

So you've just admitted that deathbed conversions and Pascal's Wager don't work? Quite the turnaround.
Who knows, maybe God will forgive me for not believing in him after he gave me a skeptical mind and put me in a universe which appears to have formed and continues to operate without his presence/existence?

expectationlost

Denying clergy access to patient records ‘a step towards paganism’ http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/denying-clergy-access-to-patient-records-a-step-towards-paganism-358560.html you put an extra box to tick on the form asking whether you'd appreciate a visit from your clergy, and the priest may view/visit them

The Black Oil

He said the data protection measure was “anti-Christian”.

Of course.

kylith

Here is a comprehensive list of people I am happy to have access to my records should I be admitted to hospital:

- My doctors



What's to stop admitting nurses from asking 'Would you like to be visited by a priest?' and putting that information on a separate list at reception?

PopePalpatine

kylith wrote: »

Here is a comprehensive list of people I am happy to have access to my records should I be admitted to hospital:

- My doctors



What's to stop admitting nurses from asking 'Would you like to be visited by a priest?' and putting that information on a separate list at reception?

The belief that this is a Catholic state, I guess.

kylith

kylith wrote: »

What's to stop admitting nurses from asking 'Would you like to be visited by a priest?' and putting that information on a separate list at reception?

That's really what they ought to be doing

swampgas

expectationlost wrote: »

Denying clergy access to patient records ‘a step towards paganism’ http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/denying-clergy-access-to-patient-records-a-step-towards-paganism-358560.html you put an extra box to tick on the form asking whether you'd appreciate a visit from your clergy, and the priest may view/visit them

Reading the article, it sounds like the priest is the one afraid of being left alone and isolated.

rainbow kirby

It takes a serious degree of arrogance to make the assumption that you are entitled to personal information straight off the bat like that.

expectationlost

its good to know this is the last place that was doing it


although somebody pointed out this is just as bad

He said he would now have to go around the wards and ask staff, already under pressure, to check the records to see if any patient was from a Church of Ireland background.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/denying-clergy-access-to-patient-records-a-step-towards-paganism-358560.html

Over 20 years ago, I was in Hospital for a minor procedure (Gynaecology Ward). There were 5 of us in the night before, myself and 2 other "young" ones for minor stuff and 2 "older" ladies for hysterectomy, which back then was a very major surgery. Just as we were settling in for the night, a nurse appeared at the door with a Priest and asked if any of us wanted confession and anointing! I was last in the line and refused his ministrations. One of the older ladies, who had been fine until his visit, was now in hysterics with worry. When I said No, he said "Never be afraid of receiving the Lord" I replied, that I had no fear, but he had put the fear of meeting the Lord sooner than expected to the poor woman in the next bed. He stormed out!

expectationlost

swampgas wrote: »

Reading the article, it sounds like the priest is the one afraid of being left alone and isolated.

theres a picture of him in the Daily Mail along side an article on the subject, surprisingly young, maybe 30s http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/roundup/articles/2014/10/14/4033136-trim-curate-appointed-pp-of-ballivor/#sthash.dBknYzx7.gbpl http://www.dioceseofmeath.ie/news?news_id=277

The Black Oil

swampgas wrote: »

Reading the article, it sounds like the priest is the one afraid of being left alone and isolated.

rainbow kirby wrote: »

It takes a serious degree of arrogance to make the assumption that you are entitled to personal information straight off the bat like that.

I was struck by that on reading the piece this morning. I don't mind him attending to the spiritual needs of his parishioners, and whilst some may end up becoming patients, it came across that it was all about him, which irked me.

looksee

I had a minor procedure in a Cork hospital that required me to be admitted just for the day. I was asked at reception what religion I was and replied 'none'. The receptionist poked at her computer for a few seconds and said, it won't accept that. So I asked her what the options were and she listed off a string of denominations and I chose one at random. I couldn't be bothered arguing it, but really, you have to have a religion, any religion!

recedite

expectationlost wrote: »

theres a picture of him in the Daily Mail along side an article on the subject, surprisingly young, maybe 30s http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/roundup/articles/2014/10/14/4033136-trim-curate-appointed-pp-of-ballivor/#sthash.dBknYzx7.gbpl

Eh.... why is he searching the hospital for Church of Ireland people?
Maybe somebody should check that he's not carrying a syringe filled with potassium chloride. He definitely has the look of a Gestapo man...

He said he would now have to go around the wards and ask staff, already under pressure, to check the records to see if any patient was from a Church of Ireland background.

expectationlost

looksee wrote: »

I had a minor procedure in a Cork hospital that required me to be admitted just for the day. I was asked at reception what religion I was and replied 'none'. The receptionist poked at her computer for a few seconds and said, it won't accept that. So I asked her what the options were and she listed off a string of denominations and I chose one at random. I couldn't be bothered arguing it, but really, you have to have a religion, any religion!

computer says NO

Fred Swanson

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TheChizler

looksee wrote: »

I had a minor procedure in a Cork hospital that required me to be admitted just for the day. I was asked at reception what religion I was and replied 'none'. The receptionist poked at her computer for a few seconds and said, it won't accept that. So I asked her what the options were and she listed off a string of denominations and I chose one at random. I couldn't be bothered arguing it, but really, you have to have a religion, any religion!

That happened to me the two times I was in hospital for a procedure (the Bons and South Informary - Victoria in Cork in case we overlapped), she just asked what religion I was, I was a bit surprised that it was even a question (what has this to do with my mole/ear?) and said "none, not-applicable, blank", and she said "atheist so", I thought, "well, yes", but I didn't like them putting words in my mouth, who knows what this information is for or who gets to see it, and I've learned this week that it was basically a step below putting everyone's name and religion on the information stand in reception. Not that I'm ashamed or anything but it's not information that they needed to have.

al22

I believe not necessary to be religious.
Some people are belong to several religions at the same time. Total number of religious believers (in Japan, I think) are more than total population of Japan.
They can be practising a few religions at the same time.

Kidchameleon

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Just say "non religious" or "no religion". Why be rude about it? The person who is asking the question is only doing their job and could well be non religious too.

Fred Swanson

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looksee

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Well in my case 'no religion' or as I put it 'none' did not suit their computer. So I could choose between holding up my admission, delaying the person who had gone with me and obstructing other people's admissions by insisting on my rights or just going along with their nonsense in a reception hall well bedecked with religious icons and choosing a denomination at random (I don't think there was the option for other religions, just denominations, but I could be wrong about that).

So long as the doctor did not offer up a quick prayer before the procedure, I didn't really care.

Diamond Doll

I don't really mind being asked it. I'd rather they asked, than if they took the default view that all Irish are Catholics, and will of course want the last rites etc done if anything were to go wrong. I've always just said "non-religious" and they seem happy enough with that.

I've also been asked a couple of times whether I'd like to see a priest while in hospital, I've simply said no, and there were no further questions asked. I do remember thinking it was nice for them to have the option available there for patients who might get comfort from talking to the priest.

Hotblack Desiato

So is yer man a right footer or a left footer or what?

My experience:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=89353461&postcount=27