headphones

PrettyBoy

kave2 wrote: »

Beats by Dr.Dre is not worthy at all.

I forked out the money for Beats and I'm more than happy with them.

conor.hogan.2

As I have said I only tried (one pair of a few types) of beats for around a minute in a shop and I didnt particularly like them.

But if people think they are worth it, well then they are worth it to them much like with laptops, smartphones, bluray, consoles etc.

mufcboy1999

went into harvey normans today to have a look at the dre beats, i was impressed by the studio's didn't try the solo's as i just didn't like the build quality id honestly see myself breaking them.

but what i really was impressed with was the marley headphones brilliant sound from them they were actually on par with dre studios, they look pretty class aswell come in loads of different styles, they were set up by bob marleys family as far as i know.

the top of the range pair which from what i can gather on the internet go for about 200 euros but harvey norman were selling them of for 70 euro, they also have to use batteries to activate the noise cancellation function.

il have the money next week for a pair so at the moment im leaning towards the Marley headphones, im not patient enough to wait for 50's new headphones.

HovaBaby

Hugh Cream wrote: »

ye but those of us who actually have them beg to differ.

Well you paid €300 for the sound that comes out of your headphones. You could have gotten some Sennheiser HD380's for 97 sterling on amazon which sound the same IMO, bar slight differences. (such as Beats being very bass heavy)

Beats was released to hook in people who never spend more than €50 on a pair of headphones before, hell €20-€30 for some people. Dre goes on about the music "you don't hear on ordinary headphones" and what you missed out on. Well I think for a whole lot of Beats buyers it'd be their very first time spending big. And what they don't know is the higher end you go the less you get from your cans by just plugging them into your iPod. You need an amplifier to power them up to get the most potential.

I have listened to many headphones before, and Beats sound like heaphones that cost €150, tops. They just use the glamour, the "style" of the headphones (see those football players/celebrities wearing them?) and Dre's input to increase their worth much more than what the actual electronics of the headphones cost. The sound is good indeed, an awful lot better than headphones that cost €20-€30, or €50. But the headphones shouldn't cost near €300 IMO.

PrettyBoy

HovaBaby wrote: »

They just use the glamour, the "style" of the headphones (see those football players/celebrities wearing them?) and Dre's input to increase their worth much more than what the actual electronics of the headphones cost.

That's exactly it. The celebrity endorsements, countless famous clients, fashionable design and better than average sound quality are all part of the image that Beats have created. All of the pointless stuff like athletes wearing them and the headphones that double as a fashion accessory is essentially what you're paying the premium for. This image is what draws most of their customers in and what makes a person that could never see themselves spending more than €20 on headphones think twice. Beats is fast becoming a household name, something that Sennheiser will never be. Sennheiser is better value if all you care about is the sound quality, but if you want the style, the brand, the celebrity endorsement, etc. on top of that then Beats are the headphones for you, that's why they're the market leader by a huge, huge margin.

Hugh Cream

HovaBaby wrote: »

Well you paid €300 for the sound that comes out of your headphones. You could have gotten some Sennheiser HD380's for 97 sterling on amazon which sound the same IMO, bar slight differences. (such as Beats being very bass heavy)

Beats was released to hook in people who never spend more than €50 on a pair of headphones before, hell €20-€30 for some people. Dre goes on about the music "you don't hear on ordinary headphones" and what you missed out on. Well I think for a whole lot of Beats buyers it'd be their very first time spending big. And what they don't know is the higher end you go the less you get from your cans by just plugging them into your iPod. You need an amplifier to power them up to get the most potential.

I have listened to many headphones before, and Beats sound like heaphones that cost €150, tops. They just use the glamour, the "style" of the headphones (see those football players/celebrities wearing them?) and Dre's input to increase their worth much more than what the actual electronics of the headphones cost. The sound is good indeed, an awful lot better than headphones that cost €20-€30, or €50. But the headphones shouldn't cost near €300 IMO.

i have the solo's, not the studio's.

theres a thing that happens when some people think about consumers, certain people think those of us who buy apple or beats are being duped, because were only buying the product because we seen some celebrity wearing them.
the same people name other brands which are both hugely cheaper and better.
thats fine, your entitled to your opinion, but your not entitled to tell me why i bought a certain product, your not entitled to tell me im dumb enough to hand out a fair chunk of money without doing some research.

are they over priced, ye probably, but they are a quality product, in both style and sound.

djburchgrove

Cant believe nobody has recommended Audio Technica ATH M50 Cans yet. They are roughly €150, Closed Back Headphones so no sound leakage which is an essential if you plan on using them anywhere but a dead quiet room. Link:

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B000P62ND6

They have very responsive bass (especially responsive for closed back Headphones), and great Isolation. They also have no noise cancellation, so none of that very feint static in the background. They don't run off batteries and have a choise of coiled or straight chord.

I can't recommend them enough. Whole forum on them here with 99% Rave Reviews. No better Value for money Cans on the Market in my opinion (and many others).

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/168217-audio-technica-ath-m50-headphones-awesome.html

You would be mental to buy the Studio Beats by Dre.

1. THE PRICE... My God what a rip off.
2. Build Quality... Headband known to crack on Older Models
3. Glorified overpowered Bass...They dont let you hear a true reflection of how the person who recorded the music wanted you to hear it.
4. Batteries... will be a pain in the arse WHEN (Not If) One Day you're listening to em and you run out of batteries and don't have replacements with you.
5. THE PRICE... I know I already said that but can not state enough what a rip off they really are.

There's my 2 cents anyway.

Hugh Cream

its funny, if you read any gadget/music based magazine the beats are always placed at either 1 or 2 in the top ten head phones, have been for a few years now.
people whose job it is to rate products rate the beats that high.
thats why i bought them, unfortunately i avoided people on forums whose opinion was based on a minutes worth of listening in hmv.

the quality is undeniable, thats a fact, but lets be honest, yes they are expensive but if your spending upward of €150 YOU are being ripped off as well.
everyone who has given an alternative to beats, talking about how expensive the beats are, have suggested alternatives in and around the €150 mark.

how can you slate a product based on price and then recommend a product equally as expensive.

djburchgrove

Hugh Cream wrote: »

the quality is undeniable, thats a fact, but lets be honest, yes they are expensive but if your spending upward of €150 YOU are being ripped off as well.
everyone who has given an alternative to beats, talking about how expensive the beats are, have suggested alternatives in and around the €150 mark.

how can you slate a product based on price and then recommend a product equally as expensive.

In what world do you live where €150 is equally as expensive as €280???

You can't say they are roughly the same price just because both are over €150 which would be expensive to average Joe buying headphones. The Beats are nearly twice the price of the ATH M50's and are definitely an inferior product to almost anyone who knows their headphones.

Go to Head-Fi or Gearslutz online and you'll see the thousands of people who agree. Im not just talking about ATH M50's, most Headphones mentioned in this thread are superior to the Beats.

Marketing works on some people and they try to be fashionable and in with the "cool product" . If this is what you want from your €300 Headphones, then do buy the beats. Ill stick with the ones that are half the price and twice the quality.

davemc180

pioneer hdj,s

got my gf a set for her decks cost me 65 of ebay...

brilliant piece of kit...

pioneer are market leaders in all music eqipment

djburchgrove

davemc180 wrote: »

pioneer are market leaders in all music eqipment

Well that's just not true.

davemc180

djburchgrove wrote: »

Well that's just not true.

but it is, for example show me a better setup then the latest cdj 2000??

every world class dj you will see, gig, or nightclub, 95 per cent use cdjs

pioneer are class leaders in music technology

djburchgrove

I completely agree that they are market leaders in DJ Technology. Ive been DJing on and off for 10 years. I'm still a Vinyl Warrior, and run off Serato, Ill always prefer Vinyly, but in terms of Digital DJing, yes they are market leaders.

But they are not leaders in Audio and Studio Equipment. And they aren't even a player in digital instruments.

baddebt

djburchgrove wrote: »

Cant believe nobody has recommended Audio Technica ATH M50 Cans yet. They are roughly €150, Closed Back Headphones so no sound leakage which is an essential if you plan on using them anywhere but a dead quiet room. Link:

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B000P62ND6

They have very responsive bass (especially responsive for closed back Headphones), and great Isolation. They also have no noise cancellation, so none of that very feint static in the background. They don't run off batteries and have a choise of coiled or straight chord.

I can't recommend them enough. Whole forum on them here with 99% Rave Reviews. No better Value for money Cans on the Market in my opinion (and many others).

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/168217-audio-technica-ath-m50-headphones-awesome.html

You would be mental to buy the Studio Beats by Dre.

1. THE PRICE... My God what a rip off.
2. Build Quality... Headband known to crack on Older Models
3. Glorified overpowered Bass...They dont let you hear a true reflection of how the person who recorded the music wanted you to hear it.
4. Batteries... will be a pain in the arse WHEN (Not If) One Day you're listening to em and you run out of batteries and don't have replacements with you.
5. THE PRICE... I know I already said that but can not state enough what a rip off they really are.

There's my 2 cents anyway.

have a pair of JVC HEADPHONES , got'em in Heaton's €10 excellent sound out them, can't for the life of me understnad why people would spend 100/200/€300 on a pair of headphone's ....crazy

PrettyBoy

djburchgrove wrote: »

Marketing works on some people and they try to be fashionable and in with the "cool product" . If this is what you want from your €300 Headphones, then do buy the beats

Too right, best looking and most stylish headphones by a mile, good reputation, most renowned, widely considered to be one of the best gadgets available in the market (the leading brand in headphones market) and it has to be said that the sound quality's not bad either!

PrettyBoy

baddebt wrote: »

have a pair of JVC HEADPHONES , got'em in Heaton's €10 excellent sound out them, can't for the life of me understnad why people would spend 100/200/€300 on a pair of headphone's ....crazy

You should have posted earlier, we could have saved ourselves 5 pages of talking about €150-300 high-end headphones and just went and got the cheapest pair we could find instead.

Hugh Cream

djburchgrove wrote: »

In what world do you live where €150 is equally as expensive as €280???

You can't say they are roughly the same price just because both are over €150 which would be expensive to average Joe buying headphones. The Beats are nearly twice the price of the ATH M50's and are definitely an inferior product to almost anyone who knows their headphones.

Go to Head-Fi or Gearslutz online and you'll see the thousands of people who agree. Im not just talking about ATH M50's, most Headphones mentioned in this thread are superior to the Beats.

Marketing works on some people and they try to be fashionable and in with the "cool product" . If this is what you want from your €300 Headphones, then do buy the beats. Ill stick with the ones that are half the price and twice the quality.

the real world.
most people willing to go as high as nearly €200 for a pair of head phones will go the extra little bit for the quality.
and relax with the patronizing shyt, its not clever, if you took the time to read my post properly you will have seen why i bought the beats.

djburchgrove

Hugh Cream wrote: »

the real world.
most people willing to go as high as nearly €200 for a pair of head phones will go the extra little bit for the quality.
and relax with the patronizing shyt, its not clever, if you took the time to read my post properly you will have seen why i bought the beats.

My Point entirely is you dont have to go the extra bit for the quality, because it is smack bang there in your face at €150. Going up to Beats pricerange for quality that is not as good as €150 quality just does not make sense.

PrettyBoy

djburchgrove wrote: »

My Point entirely is you dont have to go the extra bit for the quality, because it is smack bang there in your face at €150. Going up to Beats pricerange for quality that is not as good as €150 quality just does not make sense.

You're paying for the brand name, design, image, etc. as well as quality.

I mean, you can get a decent quality shirt for €10 in Penneys, what's the point in paying €60 for one with a brand name?

Hugh Cream

djburchgrove wrote: »

My Point entirely is you dont have to go the extra bit for the quality, because it is smack bang there in your face at €150. Going up to Beats pricerange for quality that is not as good as €150 quality just does not make sense.

tbh im not sure what your point is, i was at a point where i wanted a new pair of head phones.
i researched the options, i read the magazines, watched the videos, had a few bob extra.
i figured if i was gonna spend €180 or nearly €200 id be better off going the extra few bob, based on the reviews id read.

i suppose my problem is id read the reviews, how stupid is that, reading reviews, thats stupid right?

no, id read the reviews, they were excellent.

so i went ahead and bought a product which was reviewed excellently, thats what we do isnt it?.

Hugh Cream

dang im drunk.:D

Raekwon

Hugh Cream wrote: »

dang im drunk.:D

Snap!

Hugh Cream

lol

Hugh Cream

I don't see the problem in wanting to buy quality, we do that with everything don't we, we look for quality and style in everything we buy, all of us.
Weather it be head phones or a car or clothes, what's the difference between choosing beats over a cheaper similar quality product, and buying a pair of €130 nikes/Adidas over a pair of €30 asics, both do the exact same thing.

kave2

Hugh Cream wrote: »

I don't see the problem in wanting to buy quality, we do that with everything don't we, we look for quality and style in everything we buy, all of us.
Weather it be head phones or a car or clothes, what's the difference between choosing beats over a cheaper similar quality product, and buying a pair of €130 nikes/Adidas over a pair of €30 asics, both do the exact same thing.

Difference is you can get style and better quality for less money.
BTW, good Asics runners doesn't cost 30€, around 100€

djburchgrove

kave2 wrote: »

Difference is you can get style and better quality for less money.
BTW, good Asics runners doesn't cost 30€, around 100€

Yes!! Haha, quality reply

conor.hogan.2

kave2 wrote: »

Difference is you can get style and better quality for less money.
BTW, good Asics runners doesn't cost 30€, around 100€

You can, people who chose beats evidently can not. They can buy whatever they want don't be patronizing and think that they got duped.

Bobby Baccala

Yeah its a preference thing, who gives a fúck what other people are settling for its up to them.

djburchgrove

Okay enough Bitching, to each their own. Back to original topic. Go to the likes of X-Music or somewhere that stocks the headphones that you are thinking of.

Different people look for different things in head phones, the last thing you want is to spend over a €100 on a set of headphones and not be happy with them.

PrettyBoy

djburchgrove wrote: »

The last thing you want is to spend over a €100 on a set of headphones and not be happy with them.

The ironic thing is that the ones that always bitch about Beats and seem unhappy with them are the people that don't have them and that haven't paid for them. Same goes for the iPhone, iPad, etc. People like to hate on the market leader and try convince anyone that has one that they've bought the wrong product and their money can be better spent elsewhere :rolleyes:

Hugh Cream

kave2 wrote: »

Hugh Cream wrote: »

I don't see the problem in wanting to buy quality, we do that with everything don't we, we look for quality and style in everything we buy, all of us.
Weather it be head phones or a car or clothes, what's the difference between choosing beats over a cheaper similar quality product, and buying a pair of €130 nikes/Adidas over a pair of €30 asics, both do the exact same thing.

Difference is you can get style and better quality for less money.
BTW, good Asics runners doesn't cost 30€, around 100€

But just saying it doesn't make it a fact.
The fact that leading media publications have always rated them, have always put them in the top bracket of quality head phones is an indication of how good they are.

kave2

mufcboy1999

got a pair of marleys just over 2 weeks ago, great value for 56 euro. They sound pretty good on par with the beats solo's or at least not far behind.

the build quality is 1st class really strong piece of equipment that look great for 50 odd quid. These are the cheapest marley headphones too they have 2 other sets selling at 80 odd quid and there top range model at 200.

I was going to buy the beat studio's but I decided to buy the marleys as im waiting too see how good 50's headphones are before I buy a really high end set.

In all for 50 quid these are great value for not only the sound side of things but also the cosmetic side, recommend them highly.

come in plenty of different colors, I went with these one's as the others were bit too bright for me.

mufcboy1999

50 has just released his brand sms.

seriously thinking about buying them but im going to hold of till i see a few reviews, pretty expensive though 300 euros for the top range model!

I didn't think they would be that much tbh, a small bit more expensive than than dre's studios but i suppose these are wireless.

it will be one of the 2 i will be getting soon enough anyway, prob in the next month or 2 the marleys will do me till i decide.

http://www.smsby50.com/

johnj26

id just get the Dre beats ones for that money, nobody will even know what the 50 brand ones on the streets of dublin, and if im walking around with 300e headphones i want everyone thinking this guy is money, they prob would think the 50 cent ones are knock offs.

Hugh Cream

Know someone traveling to the states over Christmas and seriously thinking about getting them to get me 50s wireless head set while he's there.
Reviews seem decent enough, although havnt seen that many reviews as I think they've just been on sale a day or so.

Pros seem to be comfort, durability, style and of course sound.

Cons seem to be size and issues with volume and not working with earlier apple products.

Hugh Cream

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/15/gadgets-gizmos-gift-guide/

mufcboy1999

ye iv seen a few reviews on SMS by 50, they are impressive.

a lot of people are calling them the best headphones on the market atm, the durabilty is a huge factor for me.

I think im going to buy them in the next month or 2 myself.

Seaneh

A review form the washington times from a man who admits, in the first few lines, he doesn't know anything about electronics?

I will wait for a proper audiophile review before getting exctied.

D'Agger

Seaneh wrote: »

A review form the washington times from a man who admits, in the first few lines, he doesn't know anything about electronics?

I will wait for a proper audiophile review before getting exctied.

Agreed - that review reads as though it were written by a man using headphones for the first time

Hugh Cream

am i reading a different review.

GLENN H

Does anyone know where i can buy streets by 50 cent headphones??

Kylo Ren

GLENN H wrote: »

Does anyone know where i can buy streets by 50 cent headphones??

Should be available on most streets.

mufcboy1999

GLENN H wrote: »

Does anyone know where i can buy streets by 50 cent headphones??

I know littlewoods Ireland sell them but your best bet would be to buy directly of his SMS site or amazon etc.

Mad to get the wireless pair myself but a sin to pay that much while on the dole for any headphones !

GLENN H

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

I know littlewoods Ireland sell them but your best bet would be to buy directly of his SMS site or amazon etc.

Mad to get the wireless pair myself but a sin to pay that much while on the dole for any headphones !

ah i know what ya mean if ya go on walmart.com they are selling the wired ones for $249 which works out at about 198 euro!!!

Nolan14

What's up every 1 after much reviewing I'm just curious on others opinions I am thinking of buying the senheiser hd25 ii any idea were to buy in Canada Calgary??? As I'm moving there in september ??

mufcboy1999

GLENN H wrote: »

ah i know what ya mean if ya go on walmart.com they are selling the wired ones for $249 which works out at about 198 euro!!!

not bad, still out of my price bracket ! iv got the marleys which are pretty decent and affordable.

just read on carphone wharehouses facebook that 50 is going to be in carphone in dundrum on july 11th to promote the headphones, if you buy a pair there you'll get to meet him and get them signed.

http://www.businessandleadership.com/marketing/item/35995-50-cent-coming-to-carphone

chasm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

just read on carphone wharehouses facebook that 50 is going to be in carphone in dundrum on july 11th to promote the headphones, if you buy a pair there you'll get to meet him and get them signed.

http://www.businessandleadership.com/marketing/item/35995-50-cent-coming-to-carphone

Not happening now due to comments he made about special needs children.

mufcboy1999

chasm wrote: »

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

just read on carphone wharehouses facebook that 50 is going to be in carphone in dundrum on july 11th to promote the headphones, if you buy a pair there you'll get to meet him and get them signed.

http://www.businessandleadership.com/marketing/item/35995-50-cent-coming-to-carphone

Not happening now due to comments he made about special needs children.

Whoa seriously ? He is catching some heat now for those comments and rightfully so !

I was actually thinking about buying the in ear phones just to get them autographed and meet him! Ah well.

Nolan14

Right we get the deal about 50 cent etc but anyway Sennheiser hd25 are they worth buying ????