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Science and Maths teaching

  • 04-09-2011 11:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭


    I'm just wondering what is the best course to be able to teach the three sciences and maths at secondary level?

    Would I need to do two degrees?

    Any help tks in advance:)

    Sunny!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    There aren't any courses that would allow you to teach all three sciences and maths at secondary level. If you did a general science degree in one of the universities you would normally specialise in two subjects.

    Myself I did Science Education in UL, it allows you to teach Agricultural Science, Biology and either Chemistry or Physics. You also do some maths modules in first year but not enough to be qualified to teach maths. So I did three extra modules in maths with the Open University in the last couple of years to become qualified (I started a thread on it here a while back), so I have four subjects for LC. That's probably as close as you'll get to getting all sciences and maths. I'd imagine it's possible to do extra physics modules, but I don't really have the interest.

    Teaching Council require that at least one third of your degree be in the subject you intend to teach and that you study the subject in your final year of your degree so it wouldn't be possible to have a degree with Biology, Chemistry, Physics and Maths in final year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Sunny!!


    There aren't any courses that would allow you to teach all three sciences and maths at secondary level. If you did a general science degree in one of the universities you would normally specialise in two subjects.

    Myself I did Science Education in UL, it allows you to teach Agricultural Science, Biology and either Chemistry or Physics. You also do some maths modules in first year but not enough to be qualified to teach maths. So I did three extra modules in maths with the Open University in the last couple of years to become qualified (I started a thread on it here a while back), so I have four subjects for LC. That's probably as close as you'll get to getting all sciences and maths. I'd imagine it's possible to do extra physics modules, but I don't really have the interest.

    Teaching Council require that at least one third of your degree be in the subject you intend to teach and that you study the subject in your final year of your degree so it wouldn't be possible to have a degree with Biology, Chemistry, Physics and Maths in final year.

    Thank you for the helpful rapid response:)


    I don't really want to go to limerick, im from cork

    Is biochemistry the best course for me?

    And what can I teach after that?

    Could i just not do mathematical sciences after the biochem degree if i didnt mind an extra 4 years?

    Sorry, its a bit confusing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    The easiest thing for you to do would be to look at the list of degrees on the teaching council website and see which ones are recognised for teaching. Do bare in mind though, that a degree in biochemistry may qualify you but so might a degree in zoology and they are both very different courses. So while it might be a means to an end, pick a course you are likely to enjoy if you are not going to go into a specified teacher training course.

    Also maybe give some consideration as to what you can get from the degree if you decide at the end of it not to go teaching.

    http://www.teachingcouncil.ie/_fileupload/Registration/AutoQuals/Autoquals%2520updated%25201st%2520July%25202011.pdf

    Just at a quick glance, the majority of courses in UCC that are recognised by teaching council are for Biology only.

    You can do as many degrees as you want, but you'd have to pay fees for any degrees taken after your first one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Sunny!!


    The easiest thing for you to do would be to look at the list of degrees on the teaching council website and see which ones are recognised for teaching. Do bare in mind though, that a degree in biochemistry may qualify you but so might a degree in zoology and they are both very different courses. So while it might be a means to an end, pick a course you are likely to enjoy if you are not going to go into a specified teacher training course.

    Also maybe give some consideration as to what you can get from the degree if you decide at the end of it not to go teaching.

    http://www.teachingcouncil.ie/_fileupload/Registration/AutoQuals/Autoquals%2520updated%25201st%2520July%25202011.pdf

    Just at a quick glance, the majority of courses in UCC that are recognised by teaching council are for Biology only.

    You can do as many degrees as you want, but you'd have to pay fees for any degrees taken after your first one.

    thank you:) i'll have to consider limerick, ag sci, bio and chem I suppose.

    I might have to leave the maths go.

    I see Ucc is mostly biology alright, i just thought it be handy to have maths as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    The science education course in DCU will depending on subject choices allow you to teach two out of physics, chemistry and maths to leaving cert level and science and maths to junior cert level.

    Although if you're looking to stay in Cork, it is not ideal!

    http://www.dcu.ie/prospective/deginfo.php?classname=SE&originating_school=


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Sunny!!


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    The science education course in DCU will depending on subject choices allow you to teach two out of physics, chemistry and maths to leaving cert level and science and maths to junior cert level.

    Although if you're looking to stay in Cork, it is not ideal!

    http://www.dcu.ie/prospective/deginfo.php?classname=SE&originating_school=

    thanks for the info:), its just i'm not will to move:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 mccarnee


    You might be able to help me , having had to resort to additional modules yourself?
    I am in 3rd year Chemistry having studied Chemistry, Physics and Mathematics for Scientists in 1st and 2nd year of University . So I will be eligible for Chemistry but only have 40/54 ECTS required for teaching either Maths or Physics in secondary school. Did you get your eligiblity for maths assessed by the teaching council and did they direct you to the three maths modules or is there any way to do it yourself without having to pay for the teaching council assessment and still be sure the modules your doing are satisfactory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    mccarnee wrote: »
    You might be able to help me , having had to resort to additional modules yourself?
    I am in 3rd year Chemistry having studied Chemistry, Physics and Mathematics for Scientists in 1st and 2nd year of University . So I will be eligible for Chemistry but only have 40/54 ECTS required for teaching either Maths or Physics in secondary school. Did you get your eligiblity for maths assessed by the teaching council and did they direct you to the three maths modules or is there any way to do it yourself without having to pay for the teaching council assessment and still be sure the modules your doing are satisfactory?

    Have a read of this thread. All the information you need about the maths modules is there.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056306696


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