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Eircom Phonewatch Deal

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  • 06-09-2011 8:21pm
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    rushfan
    Registered Users Posts: 970 ✭✭✭


    Hi all. I have noticed that EP are doing a deal for E699 for installation, 8 sensors, and E18.75 pm for the first year. My house is a 3 bed semi with a standard unmonitored alarm system. I am wondering if this represents good value or not as I have previously known of householders who paid E1500. Would appreciate input from anyone with knowledge of same.


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    Jnealon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Jnealon


    You're paying a premium for the name, shop around as there are far better deals out there


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    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Also insist on a physical survey. In most cases the 8 devices only include standard sensors and not contacts. They will rapidly make up the difference if you want extra. That offer will probably not include an external bell, that is a must, make sure to ask how much extra that is. Get in writing what you are getting including what the monitoring fees will be, what's included in the service & how much additional call outs will cost. Oh yeah,if you are getting monitoring be sure to ask will they be happy to monitor your alarm over competitors lines. Eg "If I move to UPC will you try force me to keep by Eircom line by refusing to monitor over UPC line. They may also try to sell you a GSM digi. Ask them are they not aware of the risks re jamming.
    After all that get another 2 quotes & compare. As jnealon said, you will find there is much better value to be had.


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    shadow23
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    When we got our alarm installed they had a deal to pay over 3 years. Sounded good at the time. When this expired after paying through our teeth when all added up they wanted €28 per month for the monitoring and maintenance of the alarm. In this climate they would be lucky to get that off anyone. We just have it as a standard alarm although they wanted extra to disconnect the phone line from the alarm. We now get the odd letter of special deals €25 per month. Still expensive when all added up.


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    rushfan wrote: »
    Hi all. I have noticed that EP are doing a deal for E699 for installation, 8 sensors, and E18.75 pm for the first year. My house is a 3 bed semi with a standard unmonitored alarm system. I am wondering if this represents good value or not as I have previously known of householders who paid E1500. Would appreciate input from anyone with knowledge of same.

    I have to laugh at this price, €18.75 pm. This is the charge for the maintenance and monitoring. Why should you have to pay for maintenance in the first year if it is a new system that is installed. Surely there is a warranty with the alarm.

    www.altor.ie



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    Jnealon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Jnealon


    You are paying up front for your monitoring and pmv at year end, seems fair enough to me


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Jnealon wrote: »
    You are paying up front for your monitoring and pmv at year end, seems fair enough to me

    E699 for installation, 8 sensors.
    E18.75 pm for the first year. €225.

    It does not appear that way to me. What is pmv ?

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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    my mate has PW . none of the sensors are shock sensors. the bell is live but has no L.E.D.S . when setting it for night time he has to listen to the panel beep for 20 sec. the alarm is great but just badly set up ( my opinion) . its an expensive company to deal with. the alarm they use is great...but the costs in the long run are not so great.. defo get other quotes! if you like the alarm they use try and see if a different company supplies them.;)


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    What system has he installed, has he tried to turn the volume down ?

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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    the simon xt.. but it should be set up so that when he presses the doors and windows button twice the system arms instantly with just the doors and windows on. anyway eircom PW say the the simon xt is brand new.. the panel has been out 4 years and ge have now updated it

    http://www.pinnacleprotection.com/_uploads/site/SimonXTv2_User_Manual.pdf

    http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=simon+xt&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1252&bih=554&tbm=isch&tbnid=bMdrBepqI-nPQM:&imgrefurl=http://www.securityconnectionofgeorgiacarolina.com/services.php&docid=ysBM-GBD9X8SBM&w=250&h=250&ei=yB5pTpTYB8Gd-QaQ3IzLCw&zoom=1


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    the simon xt.. but it should be set up so that when he presses the doors and windows button twice the system arms instantly with just the doors and windows on. anyway eircom PW say the the simon xt is brand new.. the panel has been out 4 years and ge have now updated it

    http://www.pinnacleprotection.com/_uploads/site/SimonXTv2_User_Manual.pdf

    http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=simon+xt&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1252&bih=554&tbm=isch&tbnid=bMdrBepqI-nPQM:&imgrefurl=http://www.securityconnectionofgeorgiacarolina.com/services.php&docid=ysBM-GBD9X8SBM&w=250&h=250&ei=yB5pTpTYB8Gd-QaQ3IzLCw&zoom=1

    It is new to them :D Does pressing the silent button not silent the beeps ?

    Same sensors on either panel :eek:

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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    altor wrote: »

    Same sensors on either panel :eek:

    do u mean same sensors on the one setting?? doors and windows + motion
    .sure my nan has 10 windows and 2 doors and was told 3 contacts and 3 beams were enough:mad:..haa they only care about money and not customer satisfaction.....


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    do u mean same sensors on the one setting?? doors and windows + motion
    .sure my nan has 10 windows and 2 doors and was told 3 contacts and 3 beams were enough:mad:..haa they only care about money and not customer satisfaction.....

    On the XT when you arm the system if you press silent it will stop the beeps.
    All she bought was the name on the bell box.

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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    altor wrote: »
    On the XT when you arm the system if you press silent it will stop the beeps.
    All she bought was the name on the bell box.
    haa dummy bell box btw:rolleyes: ...i dont think they take pride in there work. also they wont use any existing equipment


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    haa dummy bell box btw:rolleyes: ...i dont think they take pride in there work. also they wont use any existing equipment

    Thats how they cut the cost with there good deals they have. They will charge €260 for the privilege of a live bell.

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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    tis a disgrace i say !!!:D especially since alot of the time they rely on gsm


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    They are not far off writing the rules ;)

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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    we had a salesperson call here last year when i had the 8/12 panel in... i asked him what was wrong with the alarm we had....
    1.. it didnt have the medical buttons
    2.. the external bell was useless.
    3.. it couldnt be connected to PW.


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    we had a salesperson call here last year when i had the 8/12 panel in... i asked him what was wrong with the alarm we had....
    1.. it didnt have the medical buttons
    2.. the external bell was useless.
    3.. it couldnt be connected to PW.

    Sure, they still install the 8/12 for wired jobs. Just looking for a sale of a wire free system I bet.

    www.altor.ie



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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    yup..he tried his best.. but then i confused him and asked him to leave:D


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    yup..he tried his best.. but then i confused him and asked him to leave:D

    Not very hard as they really dont know much about the system they are trying to sell.
    They are sales men, not security experts

    www.altor.ie



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    #22
    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    exactly what i said to him!!:D


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    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You have got to love them.
    I had one telling me one night to take out a SigNET 220 & replace it all with wireless.
    When I asked for a price for my 20 odd zones and how would my X10 devices work, & what frequency are the wireless & can I have 3 extra keypads , he ran.:D


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    exactly what i said to him!!:D

    Even you as a apprentice would know more or have a better chance of selling there system.

    www.altor.ie



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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    i like that 'Apprentice' sounds good:D i think i possibly do! and i will buy one from you very soon to expand my knowledge ;) and eventually take over the world!!<
    maybe to much?????


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    i like that 'Apprentice' sounds good:D i think i possibly do! and i will buy one from you very soon to expand my knowledge ;) and eventually take over the world!!<
    maybe to much?????

    Who knows Thunderbird2, you may even go into competition with me :D

    www.altor.ie



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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    altor wrote: »
    Who knows Thunderbird2, you may even go into competition with me :D

    no competition Altor !:Dhaha( i could do it with my hands tied);)
    haha only messing i still have much to learn!!


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    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    sure just ask me something about gsm or diallers and im lost before i even realize what was said!!


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    no competition Altor !:Dhaha( i could do it with my hands tied);)
    haha only messing i still have much to learn!!

    I would say you know more than a few apprentices I know ;)

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    #30
    Thunderbird2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Thunderbird2


    does eircom use aritech sensors??


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    does eircom use aritech sensors??

    They are UTC now :D Same sensors.

    www.altor.ie



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