Oscars 2012

MrStuffins

lukin wrote: »

I haven't seen Moneyball but it sounds like a bit of a joke that he has been nominated and Fassbender hasn't. It's extremely unlikely his performance was better than Fassbender's.

Have you seen Shame? I've been reading Fassbender was excellent.

MrStuffins

Jayob10 wrote: »

The movie the artist, how on earth can a movie with no dialogue be nominated?? Let alone how can the lead be nominated for best actor? It's baffling. Is it novelty or what?

Ridiculous post!

Miguel_Sanchez

MrStuffins wrote: »

One bone of contention.

Why Gary Oldman for Tinker.... (Great actor, but let'd be honest, it's not an Oscar worthy performance) and no recognition for Benedict Cumberbatch who I thought was excellent in it?

The Oscars are very political though. It could well be a 'it's about time we gave Oldman an Oscar' nomination similar to Al Pacino winning for Scent of a Woman.

phil1nj

lukin wrote: »

I haven't seen Moneyball but it sounds like a bit of a joke that he has been nominated and Fassbender hasn't. It's extremely unlikely his performance was better than Fassbender's.

I'm normally a fan of Mr. Pitt but feel that Moneyball was a so-so picture (maybe I'm missing something). The subject matter and backdrop might put some off this side of the world also (baseball being very much an American pastime). It's not a bad movie by any stretch just not particularly memorable.

That_Guy

Jayob10 wrote: »

The movie the artist, how on earth can a movie with no dialogue be nominated?? Let alone how can the lead be nominated for best actor? It's baffling. Is it novelty or what?

Eh you don't have to use dialogue to be an actor you know?

krudler

dullest batch of oscar nominations ever? least Kung Fu Panda 2 shuold get the animated on, if you havent seen it, do, Oldman gives a better performance as a maniacal kung fu fighting peacock than Tinker Tailor

That_Guy

phil1nj wrote: »

I'm normally a fan of Mr. Pitt but feel that Moneyball was a so-so picture (maybe I'm missing something). The subject matter and backdrop might put some off this side of the world also (baseball being very much an American pastime). It's not a bad movie by any stretch just not particularly memorable.

The story was more memorable than the acting. I don't think Jonah Hill or Brad Pitt were anything spectacular in it. The mannerisms of Billy Bean were quite accurate but apart from that it wasn't mind blowing. Enjoyed the film though.

JP Liz V1

I thought Pitt would get a nom also for Tree of Life anyways I havent seen Moneyball but both Pitt and Hill are getting great reviews for their roles and I think it is between Clooney and Pitt for the gold and since Clooney already has one I hope Pitt gets it

krudler

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought Pitt would get a nom also for Tree of Life anyways I havent seen Moneyball but both Pitt and Hill are getting great reviews for their roles and I think it is between Clooney and Pitt for the gold and since Clooney already has one I hope Pitt gets it

if either of them wins it'll be funny seeing the others reaction since they're good mates

lukin

MrStuffins wrote: »

Have you seen Shame? I've been reading Fassbender was excellent.

Haven't seen it yet but am going to. I am sure if Fassbender had been nominated he would not have won anyway.

phil1nj

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought Pitt would get a nom also for Tree of Life anyways I havent seen Moneyball but both Pitt and Hill are getting great reviews for their roles and I think it is between Clooney and Pitt for the gold and since Clooney already has one I hope Pitt gets it

Well considering he came out and said that he was planning to retire from acting in a couple of years, time might be ruuning out for him (personally I thought he gave better performances in The Curious Case of BB and Inglorious Basterds)

MrStuffins

lukin wrote: »

Haven't seen it yet but am going to. I am sure if Fassbender had been nominated he would not have won anyway.

So, what you're saying is............ You haven't seen Moneyball.

.......... You havent seen Shame.

.......... But it's a joke Pitt got nominated over Fassbender? you've seen neither performance!

Kylo Ren

krudler wrote: »

dullest batch of oscar nominations ever? least Kung Fu Panda 2 shuold get the animated on, if you havent seen it, do, Oldman gives a better performance as a maniacal kung fu fighting peacock than Tinker Tailor

I haven't seen it yet but I loved Rango.

phil1nj

Keno 92 wrote: »

I haven't seen it yet but I loved Rango.

Seeing as Puss in Boots got a nomination in the same category, methinks they were struggling to get 5 movies listed for this (alright movie, bit light of laughs though when compared with the parent Shrek films). Kung Fu Panda 2 is quite enjoyable though as is Rango.

Sad Professor

I am so happy Malick on there.

The Spielberg snub is pretty much the nail in the coffin of War Horse’s Oscar chances. Malick managed to sneak in ahead of him, Fincher, Bennett Miller (Moneyball) and Tate Taylor (The Help). Not that the AMPAS don’t love Spielberg, but they are probably thinking ahead to Lincoln next year.

Brooks and Shannon were screwed. And I don’t know what Hill is doing there. He was good in Moneyball, but not that good. Oldman totally deserved the nomination and deserves to win as well.

I still think The Artist will (undeservedly) get Best Picture while Director will probably go to someone else. Maybe Scorsese since they owe him a few, or Payne.

Da Shins Kelly

Shocked that Fassbender wasn't nominated after all the acclaim and talk of his performance.

I don't really get Brad Pitt that much. I can never separate his real life persona from the characters he plays, which is annoying when you're trying to watch a film. He never convinces me.

goose2005

I think it shows that over 2011 was a pretty poor year.

phil1nj

Sad Professor wrote: »

The Spielberg snub is pretty much the nail in the coffin of War Horse’s Oscar chances..

Don't really know what all the hoo-ha about War Horse was for. Thought it was ok but not the best movie of the year and not one of Spielbergs finest. Don't get me wrong it was well shot and entertaining (which probably explains the 5 technical nominations) but apart from that that ...meh.

JP Liz V1

Only 2 original songs nominated one from Rio and one from The Muppets (and by Muppets I dont mean Elton John and Madonna )

phil1nj

One positive note, glad to see Nick Nolte got a nod for "Warrior". A good film and a strong performance from him as the alcoholic father of the two fighters.

MrStuffins

phil1nj wrote: »

One positive note, glad to see Nick Nolte got a nod for "Warrior". A good film and a strong performance from him as the alcoholic father of the two fighters.

My favourite performance of the year!

JP Liz V1

Nea wrote: »

Surprised Tilda Swinton wasnt nominated for We Need to Talk About Kevin

Rooney Mara took her place

Kylo Ren

phil1nj wrote: »

One positive note, glad to see Nick Nolte got a nod for "Warrior". A good film and a strong performance from him as the alcoholic father of the two fighters.

Really hope he wins. Was a fantastic performance.

CdeP

Predictably uninspiring list of nominations.

At least Irish short filmmaking continues to be recognised for its excellence.

AnonoBoy

CdeP wrote: »

Predictably uninspiring list of nominations.

At least Irish short filmmaking continues to be recognised for its excellence.

Anyone seen Pentecost? I haven't.

Have to say I was very surprised when The Crush got a nod in 2011 - it was decent without being excellent I felt. I hope Pentecost is better.

krudler

Keno 92 wrote: »

Really hope he wins. Was a fantastic performance.

indeed, given Nolte's own problems it was a pretty personal performance. Hardy's berating of him was uncomfortable to watch in places

WatchWolf

I'm glad that the recognised Nick Nolte.

I'm happy to see Oldman has finally been nominated (justice has been served) even though it was one of his weaker performances in recent years. Regardless I'm glad to see him nominated.

Drive didn't get nominated for anything worthwhile (justice has been relinquished...). Absoloutley ridicoulous.

I'll be happy as long as Meryl Streep and George Clooney don't win.

Mindkiller

Jeff_Lebowski wrote: »

Why shouldn't a movie with no dialogue be nominated?

I agree, though I'll be mad if The Artist wins (which it most certainly will). Can't help but feel it's all a big con. It's a nice movie, but hardly a great one.

lukin

MrStuffins wrote: »

So, what you're saying is............ You haven't seen Moneyball.

.......... You havent seen Shame.

.......... But it's a joke Pitt got nominated over Fassbender? you've seen neither performance!

Based on the reaction to Fassbender's performance compared to Pitt's and without having seen either film I think it's a poor decision, yes.

misty floyd

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I don't really get Brad Pitt that much. I can never separate his real life persona from the characters he plays, which is annoying when you're trying to watch a film. He never convinces me.

I just see him in film's and he's a good actor, getting better and better IMO. He might not win the oscar but I'm glad he was nominated.

Great to see 'A Separation' in there, I loved that.

NotorietyH

Jayob10 wrote: »

The movie the artist, how on earth can a movie with no dialogue be nominated?? Let alone how can the lead be nominated for best actor? It's baffling. Is it novelty or what?

It's a movie, not radio. Dialogue is probably the least important part of telling a story on film. It's a visual medium after all. Show, don't tell and all that. Just look at the first hour of Wall-E.

MrStuffins

NotorietyH wrote: »

It's a movie, not radio. Dialogue is probably the least important part of telling a story on film. It's a visual medium after all. Show, don't tell and all that. Just look at the first hour of Wall-E.

Also, someone who thinks dialogue is the most important thing has never seen Up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2bk_9T482g

Sad Professor

Pitt's an excellent actor. Unlike a lot of leading men movie stars, he has done a lot fantastic character work over the years. Anyone who dismisses him as an actor simply hasn't seen many of his films IMO. Having said that, as good as he was in Moneyball, I thought his Tree of Life performance was more deserving.

Penn

Jonah Hill for Best Supporting Actor?

I thought Moneyball was fantastic.... but Jonah Hill did nothing in it. Nothing a lot of other actors couldn't have done just as well, if not better. I quite like Jonah Hill, but an Oscar Nomination for his performance in that film? No way.

And Bridesmaids nominated for Best Original Screenplay. Seriously?

JP Liz V1

Besides Fassbender, Di Caprio for J. Edgar was the other big acting snub

I expected that film to get lots of nominations when it was first announced with Eastwood and Di Caprio both on board, look like Di Caprio needs to stick with Martin Scorsese if ever wants to win

sReq | uTeK

lukin wrote: »

Based on the reaction to Fassbender's performance compared to Pitt's and without having seen either film I think it's a poor decision, yes.

it's beyond me how people like you are allowed access to post.

Sad Professor

Penn wrote: »

And Bridesmaids nominated for Best Original Screenplay. Seriously?

I enjoyed Bridesmaids, but yeah, one of the 5 best original screenplays of the year it was not. A Separation getting nominated makes up for it though.

JP Liz V1

CdeP wrote: »

Predictably uninspiring list of nominations.

At least Irish short filmmaking continues to be recognised for its excellence.

Peter McDonald (I Went Down) got nominated for his short film Pentecost

Penn

Sad Professor wrote: »

I enjoyed Bridesmaids, but yeah, one of the 5 best original screenplays of the year it was not. A Separation getting nominated makes up for it though.

Exactly. I thought it was alright and definitely had its moments, but top 5? I definitely would have replaced it with Red State in that category

xalot

So disappointed with the nominations this year. Think it's a case of rewarding 'stars' or in the case of Oldman / Scorcese "legends" for their bodies of work rather than the individual picture.

For me the notable omissions were:
Shame,
We need to talk about Kevin,
Drive,
Senna,

I have no idea what Rooney Mara is doing in the best actress category over Tilda Swinton. Naomi Rapace gave a far superior performance in the same part.
I thought Michael Shannon deserved a nod for 'Take Shelter'.

Penn

xalot wrote: »

I have no idea what Rooney Mara is doing in the best actress category over Tilda Swinton. Naomi Rapace gave a far superior performance in the same part.

I disagree. I preferred Rooney Mara's performance, and definitely think she deserves a nomination.

Goldstein

There's gonna be a big asterisk on the best actor trophy this year.

* Excludes Michael Shannon

irishh_bob

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Shocked that Fassbender wasn't nominated after all the acclaim and talk of his performance.

I don't really get Brad Pitt that much. I can never separate his real life persona from the characters he plays, which is annoying when you're trying to watch a film. He never convinces me.

i think pitt is a better actor than he is given credit for , his looks hurt him in this regard

MrStuffins

Goldstein wrote: »

There's gonna be a big asterisk on the best actor trophy this year.

* Excludes Michael Shannon

I presume you mean for Take Shelter? Would you recommend? I'd watch anything with the excellent Michael Shannon.

foxyboxer

Winners in Red

Best Picture
•“The Artist” Thomas Langmann, Producer
•“The Descendants” Jim Burke, Alexander Payne and Jim Taylor, Producers
•“Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close” Scott Rudin, Producer
•“The Help” Brunson Green, Chris Columbus and Michael Barnathan, Producers
•“Hugo” Graham King and Martin Scorsese, Producers
•“Midnight in Paris” Letty Aronson and Stephen Tenenbaum, Producers
•“Moneyball” Michael De Luca, Rachael Horovitz and Brad Pitt, Producers
•“The Tree of Life” Nominees to be determined
•“War Horse“ Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy, Producers

Actor in a Leading Role
•Demián Bichir in “A Better Life”
•George Clooney in “The Descendants”
•Jean Dujardin in “The Artist”
•Gary Oldman in “Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy”
•Brad Pitt in “Moneyball”

Actor in a Supporting Role
•Kenneth Branagh in “My Week with Marilyn”
•Jonah Hill in “Moneyball”
•Nick Nolte in “Warrior”
•Christopher Plummer in “Beginners”
•Max von Sydow in “Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close”

Actress in a Leading Role
•Glenn Close in “Albert Nobbs”
•Viola Davis in “The Help”
•Rooney Mara in “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo”
•Meryl Streep in “The Iron Lady”
•Michelle Williams in “My Week with Marilyn”

Actress in a Supporting Role
•Bérénice Bejo in “The Artist”
•Jessica Chastain in “The Help”
•Melissa McCarthy in “Bridesmaids”
•Janet McTeer in “Albert Nobbs”
•Octavia Spencer in “The Help”

Directing
•“The Artist” Michel Hazanavicius
•“The Descendants” Alexander Payne
•“Hugo” Martin Scorsese
•“Midnight in Paris” Woody Allen
•“The Tree of Life” Terrence Malick

:rolleyes:

Goldstein

MrStuffins wrote: »

I presume you mean for Take Shelter? Would you recommend? I'd watch anything with the excellent Michael Shannon.

I very much enjoyed it. It's a patient relatively slow paced affair though so be prepared to settle in for the long haul and absorb one of the best representations of real middle America you're likely to see for some time. There was only about six in the cinema when I went to see it but I wouldn't have missed it for anything. His performance really is astounding and bumps what is a pretty good film to begin with up another level or two. Jessica Chastain is also great in it.

Da Shins Kelly

irishh_bob wrote: »

i think pitt is a better actor than he is given credit for , his looks hurt him in this regard

It's all preference, but there's something about Pitt that doesn't sit well with me. I don't think it's even his looks, more so the fact that he's a 'celebrity'. I can't put it aside when I watch him. That's the difference between him and someone like Gary Oldman. With Oldman, I don't know anything about him so it doesn't affect how I watch his films. I don't think Brad Pitt is the worst by any means, but he just wouldn't be anywhere close to a favourite of mine.

With regards to The Artist, I'm going to see it next week and I'm pretty excited as I think it'll be an experience, but I do have to say both the leads are spectacular looking individuals.

johnny_ultimate

Best Picture wrote:

“Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close” Scott Rudin, Producer

The f*ck? This was met with pretty strong critical and audience apathy (and outright vitriol in a few cases) so what the heck's it doing in there? Did they not fulfill their annual 'Tom Hanks' quota or something?

Same old blandly conservative Oscars. A Separation and The Tree of Life are the only ones truly worthy of worship (although good to see the light but charming Midnight in Paris sneaking in). The lack of Shannon is indeed a disgrace.

Mickeroo

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

The f*ck? This was met with pretty strong critical and audience apathy (and outright vitriol in a few cases) so what the heck's it doing in there? Did they not fulfill their annual 'Tom Hanks' quota or something?

Same old blandly conservative Oscars. A Separation and The Tree of Life are the only ones truly worthy of worship (although good to see the light but charming Midnight in Paris sneaking in). The lack of Shannon is indeed a disgrace.

I'm sure I've seen whats generally regarded as a poor film get nominations before. Just shows what a farce the whole thing can be.

Surprised with the Jonah Hill nom more than anything, he was fine in the film but he didn't have very much to do I thought.

Would like to see Plummer or Nolte get best support.

goose2005

Jayob10 wrote: »

The movie the artist, how on earth can a movie with no dialogue be nominated?? Let alone how can the lead be nominated for best actor? It's baffling. Is it novelty or what?