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A town fights back

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  • 07-09-2011 10:39pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭


    Did anyone go this evening. How did it go? What did the discuss, I couldn't make it, as I commute to Dublin for work, along with a lot most of the towns population I imagine. I really hope the town and local business get a lot of national exposure out if it, and that's its not just used as a platform by local politicians to raise there public profile. Fingers crossed that the next public meeting is scheduled for later in the evening/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    :confused:

    Public meeting for...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Mr_Hat


    http://www.drogheda-independent.ie/news/tv-series-designed-to-get-town-moving-again-2857434.html
    Wednesday August 24 2011
    A TELEVISED public meeting to spark a revival in Drogheda's economy will take place on Wednesday Septembver 7th at the Barbican.

    The town is to feature in a six-part RTE series on a town fighting back and the meeting is seen as a key part of the venture.

    RTÉ/ Animo Productions will film the event at which Drogheda & District Chamber will deliver their new Town of Drogheda Regeneration Policy (TDRP).

    The aim of the policy is to bring together all key stakeholders connected with Drogheda.

    RTÉ and Animo will use this meeting as a platform to harness ideas from the town's business community and general population for their new Local Heroes - A Town Fights Back Television campaign.

    Feargal Quinn accompanied by a team of sector specific experts will be at the meeting and following that event will work with the citizens and businesses of Drogheda to re-ignite their local economy with the hope of facilitating real job creation.

    'This meeting is a very important event for Drogheda and the regeneration project. We want as many people as possible who have a real interest in Drogheda and its future to be there with us so we can all pull together to revitalise Drogheda. This is just the kick start the town needs,' Chamber President, Padraic Kierans commented.

    Those involved in the show include; Jerry Kennelly one of Ireland's leading entrepreneurs, Gary Joyce a highly experience marketing consultant, Noel Toolan brand specialist, Robert MacGiolla Phadraig, executive director with Sigmar Recruitment and Pat Savage, an acknowledged European expert on innovative Forms of Work Organisation.

    ' This is a dream team which none of us individually could hope to access. This wish list of assistance is now being offered to us collectively as a town and we should seize this chance and make the most possible use of it. I am thrilled that the businesses and community of Drogheda are being giving this opportunity to engage with experts of such distinction,' Padraic added.

    'Together with our own local expertise, ideas and experiences we can work to win business and employment and get back the feel good factor that Drogheda was famous for as a town.'

    For further information or if you wish to get involved please contact: enquiries@droghedachamber. or telephone 0419833544 and speak to Carol Kierans.]


  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭fh041205


    Sounds like it was a flop so...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Antibac


    Must of went ok! Seen Fergal Quinn and the cameras outside tesco on west street this morning!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Mr_Hat


    Well thats the whole point. Its going to be a six part show for RTE. I hope it works out better the Diarmuid Gavins ego trip that was RTE last year. Which had a similar premise.

    Taken from there Facebook page
    Local Heroes is an RTÉ-wide campaign to support Irish jobs, beginning this autumn. As part of that campaign there will be a number of programmes on RTÉ Television and Radio, including the six-part television programme, Local Heroes – A Town Fights Back, which will follow the people of one town as they come together to take their economic future into their own hands and start the fight-back for jobs.
    Drogheda, Co Louth has felt the full effects of the downturn with nearly one third of the town’s population unemployed. Now its citizens have decided they’ve had enough. Local Heroes – A Town Fights Back will follow the people of Drogheda as they work alongside Senator Feargal Quinn and an assembled team of experts to kick-start their local economy.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/RTE-Local-Heroes-Drogheda/211051025620761?sk=info


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    Anyone go to the meeting last night in the boyne valley?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    On TV now.

    Don't want to be pessimistic but what did they actually do or get done other than that meeting? Because I havent heard a thing about since, and that shop they kitted out was closed any time I passed? What did they have in it anyway?

    Looks like a whole pile of nothing came of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Rossin


    have a look at the photos on their facebook page, should give you an idea of whats been going on

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/RT%C3%89-Local-Heroes-Drogheda/211051025620761


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Will this be on RTEPlayer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭James__10


    Will this be on RTEPlayer?

    Yep! http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1120969


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I actually just seen that link right after I posted. Just watchd it.

    Didn't seem too bad. Bit of a slow start to it but it picked up a bit towards the end.

    Anyone seeing themselves in there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭anticonno16


    Drogheda is a class place.

    I once chased a pigeon for 400 yards off the steps of st peters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭The Guvnor


    I caught a bit of the repeat that was on yesterday.

    No one can have an issue with what they are trying to do.

    However the sceptic in me would question would it happen without the television cameras?

    Would Quinn bother if the cameras were not rolling?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    The Guvnor wrote: »
    However the sceptic in me would question would it happen without the television cameras?

    Would Quinn bother if the cameras were not rolling?

    I thought the same until I heard that he was involved with meetings and that which weren't being used for the show.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    My worry is if it will continue once the cameras stop soon. I have a feel that some people will stay working on the project, but for a lot, the appeal is the chance to do something being so widely publicised. Hopefully I'm proven wrong though and we can continue to have buildings repainted....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    I know this is in aid of the town etc. but by god does it make for boring television :mad:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Vanity projects often do :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Deepwell


    If its boring then step away from the keyboard, go down to the hub and volunteer to drive something "interesting".

    If it dies after the camera's move on it will be due to the enthusiasm of the volunteers being suffocated by the apathy and begrudergy of those who are content to sit on the sidelines and criticise rather than do something positive & useful.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I disagree. The motivation won't die because of apathy; the apathy exists because it's been a pointless endevour so far. The apathy exists cause the scheme has not actually achieved anything other than create a feel good show for RTE while making no difference on a large scale to the town.

    Does anyone think that painting a few buildings in one town is going to overturn Ireland's, and indeed Europe's, economical crisis? Cause that's what's causing Drogheda's problem. That a some deep-seeded socio-economic problems which have existed for quite some time before the recession and are encouraged by it.

    If the motivation dies, it will ultimatly be because people realise that its a fruitless endevour. I do get the "Don't moan, do something" comment but there's no point doing something that's uselss and will achieve nothing in the long run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Rodger_Muir


    In a earlier episode there was a lot of talk of utilizing the river for lots of different thing. In the past this has been tried for instance a number of local people tried to establish a rowing club. Part of there calender would of included a yearly regetta on the river. But the local harbourmaster shot it down not just the reggeta. But the rowing club. If reused permission for them to use the river. I wish this had been highlighted in the episode and the harbour master quized.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Rodger_Muir



    If the motivation dies, it will ultimatly be because people realise that its a fruitless endevour. I do get the "Don't moan, do something" comment but there's no point doing something that's uselss and will achieve nothing in the long run.

    Agreed I cant really see this going anywhere. I saw cars parked in the tour bus drop off point today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭southlouth type


    I disagree. The motivation won't die because of apathy; the apathy exists because it's been a pointless endevour so far. The apathy exists cause the scheme has not actually achieved anything other than create a feel good show for RTE while making no difference on a large scale to the town.

    Does anyone think that painting a few buildings in one town is going to overturn Ireland's, and indeed Europe's, economical crisis? Cause that's what's causing Drogheda's problem. That a some deep-seeded socio-economic problems which have existed for quite some time before the recession and are encouraged by it.

    If the motivation dies, it will ultimatly be because people realise that its a fruitless endevour. I do get the "Don't moan, do something" comment but there's no point doing something that's uselss and will achieve nothing in the long run.

    Theres that classic Drogheda spirit right there :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭LH2011


    In a earlier episode there was a lot of talk of utilizing the river for lots of different thing. In the past this has been tried for instance a number of local people tried to establish a rowing club. Part of there calender would of included a yearly regetta on the river. But the local harbourmaster shot it down not just the reggeta. But the rowing club. If reused permission for them to use the river. I wish this had been highlighted in the episode and the harbour master quized.

    thats does not sound right. he cannot refuse anyone to use the river.
    its a public waterway.

    i have used the river for years, with never any issues, rowing, sailing , use my boats in it regularly ,without any problems. i would like to hear more about the issues you mentioned...


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Deepwell


    I disagree. The motivation won't die because of apathy; the apathy exists because it's been a pointless endevour so far. The apathy exists cause the scheme has not actually achieved anything other than create a feel good show for RTE while making no difference on a large scale to the town.

    Does anyone think that painting a few buildings in one town is going to overturn Ireland's, and indeed Europe's, economical crisis? Cause that's what's causing Drogheda's problem. That a some deep-seeded socio-economic problems which have existed for quite some time before the recession and are encouraged by it.

    If the motivation dies, it will ultimatly be because people realise that its a fruitless endevour. I do get the "Don't moan, do something" comment but there's no point doing something that's uselss and will achieve nothing in the long run.

    Ok, I get your point. There is no point in even trying because its all someone elses fault and someone else needs to fix it.

    Will the last person to emigrate from Ireland please turn off the lights...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    Deepwell wrote: »
    If its boring then step away from the keyboard, go down to the hub and volunteer to drive something "interesting".

    If it dies after the camera's move on it will be due to the enthusiasm of the volunteers being suffocated by the apathy and begrudergy of those who are content to sit on the sidelines and criticise rather than do something positive & useful.

    I was referring to it in the context of a TV show, and not that project itself was a bore. Maybe you picked me up wrong there.

    I think in general people are more pessimistic not apathetic or begrudging towards it, I agree there will always be those who will who sit on the sidelines and criticise though but you get that everywhere this is ireland after all ;)

    Also I really do wonder if it not for the TV cameras would this project have gotten off the ground in the 1st place and will it continue once they are gone. The people involved will keep at it I have no doubt but will they have the same level of support I wonder :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Rodger_Muir


    LH2011 wrote: »
    thats does not sound right. he cannot refuse anyone to use the river.
    its a public waterway.

    i have used the river for years, with never any issues, rowing, sailing , use my boats in it regularly ,without any problems. i would like to hear more about the issues you mentioned...

    I dont know the exact details. But I know the people who have been trying to establish a rowing club in the twoen for the last five years. They have come very close to getting it up and running. Only for the harbourmaster to shoot them down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭LH2011


    I dont know the exact details. But I know the people who have been trying to establish a rowing club in the twoen for the last five years. They have come very close to getting it up and running. Only for the harbourmaster to shoot them down.

    that still does not make sense.

    were they looking for access to areas that DPC look after such as dock access etc?

    i am very farmiliar with that whole area, and cannot see any reason why it would be / could be blocked from happening.

    if you could give more information, or PM me


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Deepwell wrote: »
    Ok, I get your point. There is no point in even trying because its all someone elses fault and someone else needs to fix it.

    Will the last person to emigrate from Ireland please turn off the lights...
    Theres that classic Drogheda spirit right there

    Rather than being snarky, why not offer reasons I'm wrong? Why not provide examples from the program which will make a long lasting positive change to the town? Why not offer me things that you or I can do that will fix the actual problems? Cause the truth is I cannot get the banks to give me loans. I cannot create the thousands of jobs nessecary when the money the needed for them aren't out there. And painting shops and setting up pretty firework displays for a feel good vanity project are not going to fix Drogheda.

    Yeah, I've got a negative attitude, but I've also got a realistic one. I'd rather that than a overly positive and ignorant attitude. I'm sick of this "You're a moaner, get out and do something." Tell me what I can do to fix the problems in Ireland and in Drogheda? This show is about getting Drogheda back on its feet, but has done nothing that will achieve that goal...


  • Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭southlouth type


    Rather than being snarky, why not offer reasons I'm wrong? Why not provide examples from the program which will make a long lasting positive change to the town? Why not offer me things that you or I can do that will fix the actual problems? Cause the truth is I cannot get the banks to give me loans. I cannot create the thousands of jobs nessecary when the money the needed for them aren't out there. And painting shops and setting up pretty firework displays for a feel good vanity project are not going to fix Drogheda.

    Yeah, I've got a negative attitude, but I've also got a realistic one. I'd rather that than a overly positive and ignorant attitude. I'm sick of this "You're a moaner, get out and do something." Tell me what I can do to fix the problems in Ireland and in Drogheda? This show is about getting Drogheda back on its feet, but has done nothing that will achieve that goal...


    There is an office on west st next to tesco begging for people to go in and ask what they can do to help the town , go in and ask .


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    There is an office on west st next to tesco begging for people to go in and ask what they can do to help the town , go in and ask .

    No, I'm asking you. What does that office think any individual can do to solve the problems, the real, long term problems of Drogheda. You want to be snarky with me, I'll ask you to come up with a better answer than "Go do something yourself". I've already said I dont think what that office is doing is worth much. What do you think that office and the people inside are really going to achieve?


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