Five arrests in 'slavery' raid at UK [travellers] site

charlemont

Solair wrote: »

I think the book should be thrown at whoever is responsible for this. It's just inhumane, inexcusable and utterly illegal under national and UN law!

However, I think the book should also be thrown at those behind The Industrial Schools and The Magdalene Laundries both of which were slavery operations which kept people in dire conditions without pay.

Unfortunately its easier to go after the travellers than the establishment, Brothers, Priests and Nuns are still walking around free and there is no appetite from the powers that be to prosecute them, Personally I think they are afraid of them opening their mouths to reveal how all sections of our so called elite were in on it.

Big Nasty

J. Marston wrote: »

The day I take pictures of a traveller with a boob job on Sky News is the day that I know I've hit rock bottom. Sorry .

They did look nice, in fairness to her. Face was a mess though...

A screenshot would do!

Geekness1234

I wonder has the Gardaí taken a newfound interest in the traveller groups roaming the country?

TheBunk1

Pretty impressive, pity about the face....

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Sep/Week2/16067861.jpg

moomooman

It was funny how the cameraman pulled back to get her rockin boobs into shot

TheBunk1 wrote: »

Pretty impressive, pity about the face....

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Sep/Week2/16067861.jpg

EGAR

TheBunk1 wrote: »

Pretty impressive, pity about the face....

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Sep/Week2/16067861.jpg

Jeez, that gives the meaning of Silicon Valley a whole new meaning..

TheBunk1

moomooman wrote: »

It was funny how the cameraman pulled back to get her rockin boobs into shot

Haha, yeah I noticed that too. Suppose he felt we needed to get the full picture...:eek:

Guy:Incognito

who the fug wrote: »

wrong, I understood what he meant so it be OK

Engerlish evolves.

Not all evolution is good.

Plus, people doing somthing wrong for so long that others start doing it isnt really evolution, its just lots of stupid people doing the same thing wrong.

People mishearing could've and writing it as could of isnt good evolution.

Since we're now "evolving" to using slaves again, I think I'll get me some.

pragmatic1

Travellers being scumbags. Wow, what a shocker.

Dionysus

Some day, when our own state gets the courage, we will hear enormous stories of physical abuse, depravity, sexual abuse, widespread mistreatment and so much more of traveller women and children. It is widely known that this goes on to a disproportionate extent within that community. It should be said publicly by a state-appointed investigator.

At the moment the entire "respect Traveller culture" line merely sacrifices the weak to the most reprehensible and barbarous aspects of that culture. It's time for the state to go in, and for educated Irish people to put their liberalism above political correctness and defend the state in this situation.

Billy86

Dionysus wrote: »

Some day, when our own state gets the courage, we will hear enormous stories of physical abuse, depravity, sexual abuse, widespread mistreatment and so much more of traveller women and children. It is widely known that this goes on to a disproportionate extent within that community. It should be said publicly by a state-appointed investigator.

At the moment the entire "respect Traveller culture" line merely sacrifices the weak to the most reprehensible and barbarous aspects of that culture. It's time for the state to go in, and for educated Irish people to put their liberalism above political correctness and defend the state in this situation.

Despite what I was saying in regards to discrimination against travellers as a whole earlier in the thread regarding this incident, I agree with this post wholeheartedly; great points.

tayto lover

Its beginning to look like the whole thing might have been exaggerated a bit. Some of the "freed" men have gone back to the camp and don't want to talk to the police at all.

super_furry

No sign of a statement from Pavee Point I take it then.

mikom

super_furry wrote: »

No sign of a statement from Pavee Point I take it then.

Something something, dags, something something, periwinkle blue, something something, racism.

baldbear

Did anyone see the traveller lady on the 6 news. Massive diddies!!! Great interview boss...:pac:

J. Marston

baldbear wrote: »

Did anyone see the traveller lady on the 6 news. Massive diddies!!! Great interview boss...:pac:

''Dey took my husband and his two brudders, and they both is innocent.''

Seriously, how the (male) reporters focused on asking her questions with those tig ol' bitties hanging out is a mystery.

JONJO THE MISER

baldbear wrote: »

Did anyone see the traveller lady on the 6 news. Massive diddies!!! Great interview boss...:pac:

I could not understand a word she said, not surprising really.

super_furry

Wonder how much copper piping her brother had to sell to pay for them.

theteal

It's on bbc news just now. They just interviewed a toothless specimen who had his jumper on inside out and back to front - they didn't do nuhhin apparently

Muckie

Check out the traveller spokeswoman :pac: in all her neon glory.

http://www.tv3.ie/videos.php?video=39961&locID=1.2

"No slaves here boss"

R P McMurphy

J. Marston wrote: »

baldbear wrote: »

Did anyone see the traveller lady on the 6 news. Massive diddies!!! Great interview boss...:pac:

''Dey took my husband and his two brudders, and they both is innocent.''

Seriously, how the (male) reporters focused on asking her questions with those tig ol' bitties hanging out is a mystery.

Playboy gonna do a traveller special

Any word from Amnesty International or Vanessa Redgrave yet???

maybe they think travellers should be allowed to keep slaves?

tayto lover

baldbear wrote: »

Did anyone see the traveller lady on the 6 news. Massive diddies!!! Great interview boss...:pac:

She had a butter face though.
Great chest, great arse, but her face !!

Bodhisopha

Muckie wrote: »

Check out the traveller spokeswoman :pac: in all her neon glory.

http://www.tv3.ie/videos.php?video=39961&locID=1.2

"No slaves here boss"

Gloriously blatant camera work.

willmunny1990

The travelling community as they call themselves never fail to amaze me!As if there culture wasnt bad enough already with fighting,stealing,animal abuse etc...now there keeping slaves!!hahaha

These people thrive on the tolerance of our society and weve put up with it for to long,i mean there culture is crime and we put up with it!Why il never no.

Billy86

willmunny1990 wrote: »

The travelling community as they call themselves never fail to amaze me!As if there culture wasnt bad enough already with fighting,stealing,animal abuse etc...now there keeping slaves!!hahaha

These people thrive on the tolerance of our society and weve put up with it for to long,i mean there culture is crime and we put up with it!Why il never no.

:rolleyes:

the_syco

silly wrote: »

One of the 15 have left the medical centre and headed back to the camp site saying the police are overreacting, and its his home.
I think I heard most of the 15 are not supporting the police investigation.

After living there for 15 years, some don't know any better. Could also be a hint of Stockholm syndrome in there as well. And after being homeless, they may consider anything "home".

Dudess

Dionysus wrote: »

put their liberalism above political correctness

Thought they meant the same thing?

But anyway, despite what some folks are imagining, it's unlikely even the most do-goody of do-gooders would defend this. And anyone who does defend it would be condemned by the do-gooders.

Most people who defend travellers are merely saying they're not all bad. It's only the bad ones you hear about. Sure, there are problems inherent within the communities - a girl I know who is a social worker and works with travellers would tell you that herself - but there are good 'uns, no matter how many bad 'uns there are.

Discodog

the_syco wrote: »

After living there for 15 years, some don't know any better. Could also be a hint of Stockholm syndrome in there as well. And after being homeless, they may consider anything "home".

Or maybe they have been told that the crap will be beaten out of them or their families. They is no way that this could be going on without the whole "camp" knowing - they should arrest the others as accessories.

Dionysus

Dudess wrote: »

Thought they meant the same thing?

Far from it. Political correctness is an urge to fit into what is perceived to be expected, particularly with regard to not offending particular groups. Liberalism (and it's a very broad church) would tend to put the ideals of rights and responsibilities first and if groups are offended because of defending those rights - e.g. right to live in dignity and without fear - then that is incidental to the defence of those rights.

There are, it must be said, various strands of liberalism. But even communitarian liberalism which emphasises the rights of the community rather than the rights of the individual, would not accept silence about the culture of abuse and suffering within minority communities (or any community) based on some spurious politically-correct "respect a minority community's rights" and don't interfere because it will cause offence.

mikom

Discodog wrote: »

Or maybe they have been told that the crap will be beaten out of them or their families. They is no way that this could be going on without the whole "camp" knowing - they should arrest the others as accessories.

QFT.
Does anyone really think a non-traveller could enter and stay in the camp without every traveller there knowing about it.

willmunny1990

Discodog wrote: »

Or maybe they have been told that the crap will be beaten out of them or their families. They is no way that this could be going on without the whole "camp" knowing - they should arrest the others as accessories.

Imagine half the camp bring in slaves and the other half dont have a clue..yea right!I agreeThe whole camp should be brought to justice,hiding this crime is just as bad.

biko

Muckie wrote: »

Check out the traveller spokeswoman :pac: in all her neon glory.

http://www.tv3.ie/videos.php?video=39961&locID=1.2

"No slaves here boss"

Watched it twice

Big Nasty

biko wrote: »

Watched it twice

Oh, the mammaries!

steve9859

Channel 4 news reported in its main story tonight that police have confirmed that there have been 'dozens' of raids this year all over England on camps where travellers have been keeping slaves. Seems that it is not rare at all. Maybe its part of this 'culture' that travellers seem so keen to protect

EGAR

Monday 12 September 2011
As police continue their inquiries into how 24 vulnerable people were held and apparently kept as slaves on a Bedfordshire traveller site, Channel 4 News reveals just how widespread the practice is.

Four men and a woman have been arrested for suspected slavery offences at Greenacre travellers' site in Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire.

Around 200 police officers raided the site at 5.30am on Sunday morning and found 24 men in "filthy and cramped" conditions.

The victims were taken to an undisclosed medical reception centre and provided with medical, health and social welfare care.

After receiving immediate help, nine men decided not to support the police in their investigations. Of the 15 men that remain, eight are British, three Polish, one Latvian, one Lithuanian and two men are of unconfirmed nationalities.

The five residents of the site were arrested under the new Slavery and Servitude Act 2010. They are being held at police stations across Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire.

'State of virtual slavery'

Detective Chief Inspector Sean O'Neil, from the Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Major Crime Unit, said: "The men we found at the site were in a poor state of physical health and the conditions they were living in were shockingly filthy and cramped.

"We believe that some of them had been living and working there in a state of virtual slavery, some for just a few weeks and other for up to 15 years."

The conditions they were living in were shockingly filthy and cramped.
Detective Chief Inspector Sean O'Neill
The offences being investigated are "extremely serious", he said.

The long-running police investigation into the alleged slavery ring at Greenacre centred around information suggesting a number of people were being held against their will in poor conditions at the site.

A police spokesman told Channel 4 News: "Intelligence that we received earlier this year relating to the site, and our own intelligence gathering, has led us to believe that up to 28 people have passed through the site since 2008."

Slavery and trafficking in the UK

The alleged slavery ring at Greenacres is not the first suspected instance of vulnerable men being held under forced labour. Channel 4 News has uncovered dozens of other unrelated cases in counties across the country, and heard first-hand accounts from some of the poor, dispossessed and usually homeless victims who have been preyed upon and abused.

Four people were arrested in March this year, charged with holding 22 alleged victims in slavery at travellers' sites in Gloustershire and Leicestershire, and forcing them to carry out forced labour.

In a separate incident, three people were arrested in June under charges of alleged slavery at a travellers' site at Hamble near Southampton.

In the video below, Graham Clark tells Channel 4 News he was kidnapped by travellers and forced to work as a slave in the Midlands for 10 months.

http://www.channel4.com/news/five-arrested-on-slavery-charges-at-travellers-site

Latchy

Whenever I think of Travellers ( which isin't very often :pac: ) I think of Meercats .... always looking over their shoulders and straining their necks to see who's about .

:pac:

The Waltzing Consumer

I am sure it has been mentioned in this thread a good few times already but where the hell is the UN and human rights groups who so quickly jumped on the Dale farm bandwagon?

Is it okay for travellers to take the weakest in society, shave their heads, give them little or no food, make them work for nothing, attack and beat them and keep them imprisoned over a long period of time?

WTF?? :eek:

mikemac

Any sign of Vanessa Redgrave?

I hear she feels strongly about issues and is willing to jump in if she feels human rights are breached

end a eknny

its interesting to see how much concern there is for these people and how much time and effort went into this. its hard to believe that there is thousands of homeless people in britain and ireland that nobody gives a flying fcuk about. do you think people living on the street have it any easier

staker

The news has just started lads.

The Waltzing Consumer

end a eknny wrote: »

its interesting to see how much concern there is for these people and how much time and effort went into this. its hard to believe that there is thousands of homeless people in britain and ireland that nobody gives a flying fcuk about. do you think people living on the street have it any easier

alwasy one :rolleyes:

baldbear

tits on news.

LondonIrish90

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

I am sure it has been mentioned in this thread a good few times already but where the hell is the UN and human rights groups who so quickly jumped on the Dale farm bandwagon?

Is it okay for travellers to take the weakest in society, shave their heads, give them little or no food, make them work for nothing, attack and beat them and keep them imprisoned over a long period of time?

WTF?? :eek:

The UN were trying to preserve a culture which was being wiped out by the eviction, apparently.

Apparently more important than preserving the safety, security and dignity of humans enslaved by this culturally rich crew.

mickydoomsux

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

I am sure it has been mentioned in this thread a good few times already but where the hell is the UN and human rights groups who so quickly jumped on the Dale farm bandwagon?

Is it okay for travellers to take the weakest in society, shave their heads, give them little or no food, make them work for nothing, attack and beat them and keep them imprisoned over a long period of time?

WTF?? :eek:

It's their culture, you horrible racist.

I've said it once and i'll say it again, there's no such thing as a decent Traveller. They are just a massive organised crime gang.

If they all disappeared this moment the world would be a better place.

Rocky_Dennis

baldbear wrote: »

tits on news.

They were a serious pair

galwayrush

Waiting for some concerned citizens to express outrage at travellers not being allowed to keep slaves..:rolleyes:

staker

galwayrush wrote: »

Waiting for some concerned citizens to express outrage at travellers not being allowed to keep slaves..:rolleyes:

Dunno if Josef Fritzl has the internet:pac:

SEPT 23 1989

baldbear wrote: »

tits on news.

They were probably nicked

galwayrush

baldbear wrote: »

tits on news.

Enslaved by a bra, will someone please free them?:pac: