PAT Testing Course

senorwipesalot

Is there any bodies or colleges who run PAT testing courses in Ireland and what cost andtime is involved?

.G.

Probably not worth doing.Even in the boom not very many companies were paying money for pat testing.I worked for a few companies who were tooled and trained up to do it but never once got employed by by customer to do it.They didnt even bother with it in their own offices

As for these days with money tight,I'd say its unlikely any companies are bothered with it now

dingding

I think it is more of a UK thing than an Irish requirement.

lostgirl03

PAT Testing is an Irish Requirement as per the General Applications 2007 Regulation 81.

leeomurchu

I'm qualified to do it although the company paid for it.

I think I was called out to test equipment twice at most generally it's not used it was only for when the health and safety boys got on their high horse.

Is there a position you're applying for that requires this or is it for your own benefit I don't think the course was cheap anyway.

crasy dash

I work in a dairy factory only reason we do pat testing is for insurance purposes engineer wants it done about twice a year pre the insurance renewal date

Did a two day course few years back cant honestly say i learnt anything.
If it helps you get a job do it by all means handy course to pass few multiple choice questions to answer and a small visual inspection of a few appliances followed by testing them and you hopefully get the cert

dolittle

if you read the rules guarding it or should i say what i took from it was
that the only time it has to be electrically tested is after a repair
a PAT test can consist of visual tests only
we had many an argument over how each of us saw the rules

Mr Magnolia

leeomurchu wrote: »

I'm qualified to do it although the company paid for it.

I think I was called out to test equipment twice at most generally it's not used it was only for when the health and safety boys got on their high horse.

Is there a position you're applying for that requires this or is it for your own benefit I don't think the course was cheap anyway.

Is it any more than a visual inspection, an insulation test and a resistance test where appropriate?

2011

dolittle wrote: »

if you read the rules guarding it or should i say what i took from it was
that the only time it has to be electrically tested is after a repair

Not necessarily.

a PAT test can consist of visual tests only

No, there is a bit more to it than that

leeomurchu

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Is it any more than a visual inspection, an insulation test and a resistance test where appropriate?

yes you're required to test the lead for the appliance. You can test a pc/kettle lead through the tester it's actually a very handy piece of equipment you do the regular tests insualtion resistance etc.It depends on what you're testing there's different tests for say class 1 or class 2 equipment.

Our policy was to test all equipment once it was moved from one site to another as most safety officrs required a pass cert on all hand held appliances, drills leads traffos etc.

Visual inspection is a part of it but that's a basic part much like common sense if it looks dodgy it probably is.

Mr Magnolia

leeomurchu wrote: »

yes you're required to test the lead for the appliance. You can test a pc/kettle lead through the tester it's actually a very handy piece of equipment you do the regular tests insualtion resistance etc.It depends on what you're testing there's different tests for say class 1 or class 2 equipment.

Such as?

What's additional to the insulation/resistance test?

leeomurchu

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Such as?

What's additional to the insulation/resistance test?

Any particular reason for your line of questioning?

You could Google pat testing if you're so interested no doubt there's a plethora of sites?

Mr Magnolia

Curiosity. I can't assume the PAT testing course to be anything other than a money spinning exercise unless there's something that I'm unaware of; hence my line of questioning. I would be grateful if you could expand on my questions.

I've read the legislation and it's highly ambiguous in my opinion. I've researched it but you're the first person I've encountered that has done the training

leeomurchu

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Curiosity. I can't assume the PAT testing course to be anything other than a money spinning exercise unless there's something that I'm unaware of; hence my line of questioning. I would be grateful if you could expand on my questions.

I've read the legislation and it's highly ambiguous in my opinion. I've researched it but you're the first person I've encountered that has done the training

There's not really much more to expand upon once our equipment was tested it was signed off by myself or another tester and tagged safe for use. If I remember right hand held tools had to be tested every few months and stationary equipment every 6 months. Don't quote me on that though.

I'd tend to agree with you in sayin that it's a money spinning racket but on some insurances policies it's one of the terms and conditions.

I was just going along with it as it didn't cost me anything and was a handy number. Safety officers on larger sites would have a safety review at month end and all equipment would have to be visually inspected if any faults were found on the equipment tags were removed and the equipment had to be retested.

GT Cramptons safety officers used to be notorious for removing equipment from a site for not having any test tags.

2011

All you ever wanted to know about PAT testing:

I would suggest that you have several cups of strong coffee first :D

Mr Magnolia

Ah thanks. I may have misunderstood your post up the way a little. It is mainly the inspection, resistance/insulation test along with documenting and tagging the device/appliance etc. Thanks for that.



@ 2011, I might leave the video for the morning so, thanks matey!

Bruthal

2011 wrote: »

I would suggest that you have several cups of strong coffee first :D

I will after I test my kettle after the video

mickdw

How much would pat testing equipment cost for a start up?

2011

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

I can't assume the PAT testing course to be anything other than a money spinning exercise unless there's something that I'm unaware of;

Money spinning? That is a terrible thing to suggest.
I suppose that you are going to suggest the same about Safe Pass next....:D:D:D

leeomurchu

2011 wrote: »

Money spinning? That is a terrible thing to suggest.
I suppose that you are going to suggest the same about Safe Pass next....:D:D:D

I wouldn't dare that safe pass is the best snooze I get worth every penny

Bruthal

leeomurchu wrote: »

I wouldn't dare that safe pass is the best snooze I get worth every penny

Id rather a days work on the site than that course.

2011

leeomurchu wrote: »

I wouldn't dare that safe pass is the best snooze I get worth every penny

Yeah, God forbid they include something relevant in it next time, we might all wake up with a terrible fright

Bruthal

2011 wrote: »

Yeah, God forbid they include something relevant in it next time, we might all wake up with a terrible fright

Yes, id like a section on how to walk up your own stairs safely included in it.

While everyone else laughs or falls asleep, I will be waking up and paying attention for that part...

mattjack

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Curiosity. I can't assume the PAT testing course to be anything other than a money spinning exercise unless there's something that I'm unaware of; hence my line of questioning. I would be grateful if you could expand on my questions.

I've read the legislation and it's highly ambiguous in my opinion. I've researched it but you're the first person I've encountered that has done the training

I did a PAT testing training course a few years ago when a company I worked for thought it was onto a winner regarding the testing.They got two contracts,the meter was expensive to buy and seemed a money spinner regarding calibration,buying of replacement stickers,software etc.

I thought the training was a waste of time as a competent electrician would've figured it out himself .

Over the years I've done a lot of routine and breakdown maintenance,open skt checks,DB board checks etc but I thought PAT was a scam.

Mr Magnolia

robbie7730 wrote: »

Yes, id like a section on how to walk up your own stairs safely included in it..

lol, "3 points of contact" I assume!

2011

robbie7730 wrote: »

Yes, id like a section on how to walk up your own stairs safely included in it..
While everyone else laughs or falls asleep, I will be waking up and paying attention for that part...

Robbie I will try to say this delicately:





That ship has already sailed :D:D

2011

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

lol, "3 points of contact" I assume!

Let's just say that Robbie and stairs don't get along

Mr Magnolia

Oh, enough said

Bruthal

2011 wrote: »

That ship has already sailed :D:D

My real point was, a section on how to fry an egg safely would be as helpful as the rest of the course.