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Forza Motorsport 4
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ShadowHearth wrote: »is it me or is it very douche to answer, by qouting each sentence?
its just youShadowHearth wrote: »gt5 was rubbish and you know it m8. just maybe good old school GT that brought you to the world of SIM drivers is not letting you to admit it.
rubbish how exactly.ShadowHearth wrote: »gt5 physics better then old ones, yes, but is is better then other games? lol no, it wouldnt be even good for arcade game. it makes BUMP sound when you hit car and it automaticly pushes you away!!!! ITS A SIM!!! how could they let it go?!
Forza 3 A.I is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then gt5, it actuolly reacts at what player does, wheres in all GT series it goes by best line out there and newer interacts. after first lap, you will newer see then changing theyr spots, they will just go in to train line and thats it!
iv a feeling you haven't played much of GT5. iv seen AI cars overtaking, bumping, spinning out. what more do you want. there really is no difference between the AI on either game.ShadowHearth wrote: »GT was my first sim. It was my first baby step in petrolheads journey. Unfortunatly now its ****. With amount of recourses and time they had, it could have been best game in its class. Now it just left a bad taste in my mouth.
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brian plank wrote: »i never said tuning was pointless, i did a lot of it myself. why though would they put so much focus on painting and video making in a so called racing sim while at the same taking out the whole racing aspect (custom lobbies). the number of people online in the first few weeks speaks for itself. these 'cool game modes' were stuck in to try to get a few back but the game was long dead by then.
because they can, il take more content any day, why have the best painting/customization system of any sim
because people like to differentiate the cars they are driving, no one wants to be driving the same car as everyone else, as for the online aspect, its far from dead buddy just go online and have a look, the cool game modes are exactly that cool, who doesnt want to take a break from serious racing every now and showcase what cars youve got, also tag can take a lot of skill to be good at so dont dismiss it,
you also said that graphics arnt that important in one of your other posts :rolleyes: its a racing sim ffs of course graphics are important they add to the immersion of the game,
forza 3 was a better car game than gt5 simple as, forza 4 will be in a different league0 -
brian plank wrote: »its just you
rubbish how exactly.
iv a feeling you haven't played much of GT5. iv seen AI cars overtaking, bumping, spinning out. what more do you want. there really is no difference between the AI on either game.
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Icyseanfitz wrote: »forza 3 was a better car game than gt5 simple as, forza 4 will be in a different league
fair enough you obviously like the mini games and i did like the storefront for paints etc. but how can you consider F3 better than GT5.
the most important thing in a racing sim is the driving. in forza you have assisted steering constantly on to make it easier to play with a pad, if you use the clutch you can shift down without it and it wont affect your time. then theres the engine and 4wd swaps, loading cars up with power but leaving the stock tires on is the fastest setup .
how can that be considered a sim?0 -
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brian plank wrote: »fair enough you obviously like the mini games and i did like the storefront for paints etc. but how can you consider F3 better than GT5.
the most important thing in a racing sim is the driving. in forza you have assisted steering constantly on to make it easier to play with a pad, if you use the clutch you can shift down without it and it wont affect your time. then theres the engine and 4wd swaps, loading cars up with power but leaving the stock tires on is the fastest setup .
how can that be considered a sim?
i would like to point out gt5 aint a sim either, go play iracing and then you will know what a sim is, forza and gt are hybrid arcade/sim racers, and forza is the better game0 -
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brian plank wrote: »ah the old go play iracing argument. also note the bolded part of your post above. as i pointed out forza isn't close to being a sim. iv also answered the original question of why i thought F3 was terrible so i'll leave it at that.
im confused console sim = arcade/sim, thats not a bad thing but thats just how it is, gt5 isnt close to being a sim either, it has crap damage, crappy ai, crap physics.
youre saying forza isnt close to being a sim which games like iracing and rfactor are, i just pointed out gt5 isnt close to those sim games either its a valid point0 -
brian plank wrote: »ah the old go play iracing argument. also note the bolded part of your post above. as i pointed out forza isn't close to being a sim. iv also answered the original question of why i thought F3 was terrible so i'll leave it at that.
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Icyseanfitz wrote: »im confused console sim = arcade/sim, thats not a bad thing but thats just how it is, gt5 isnt close to being a sim either, it has crap damage, crappy ai, crap physics.
youre saying forza isnt close to being a sim which games like iracing and rfactor are, i just pointed out gt5 isnt close to those sim games either its a valid point
the problem is your just spouting sh*te with no facts to back it up. both games have crap AI and damage. iv given examples of forzas crap physics but you cant do the same for GT5.
im also well aware, even though i haven't played either game, that rfactor and iracing are miles ahead in terms of realism.
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Icyseanfitz wrote: »
prefer this one myself
anyone who defends gt5 over forza this much has to be trolling
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brian plank wrote: »the problem is your just spouting sh*te with no facts to back it up. both games have crap AI and damage. iv given examples of forzas crap physics but you cant do the same for GT5.
im also well aware, even though i haven't played either game, that rfactor and iracing are miles ahead in terms of realism.
not that i need to feed you or anything but
Physics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4acUz4nJw&feature=player_embedded
Ai: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IiKt9gBiOo
damage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqtD5DN70cI&feature=related0 -
Icyseanfitz wrote: »anyone who defends gt5 over forza this much has to be trolling
not defending anything just pointing out the facts 0 -
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http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood4/ Lots of interesing info on the game here if anyone missed it, can't wait for it.
Wait, wait, wait... Indy's in F4?
Oh hell fúcking yes.
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Icyseanfitz wrote: »dont think there are indy cars in it though
Don't need them, Indy itself is way more than enough.
Hopefully there will be a few other good ovals in F4, as well as a nice variation.
Motegi (1.5-mile egg oval), Sedona (fictional 1.5-mile oval) and Sunset Peninsula (fictional 2.5-mile tri-oval) just really wasn't enough. No short ovals, no flat ovals, no quad-ovals
And the oval races in campaign were crap too. Seriously, who races them backwards, and who starts an oval race with a standing start?!?!
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I'm looking forward to it since the day when the new Xbox came out, I'll be getting it from Smyths probaby as I've got some money left on the Gift Card.
BTW, Are the credits in Forza 3 gonna be transferred onto Forza 4?
Coz I don't wanna waste my 23,00,000. 0 -
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