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Selling a used car in Ireland guide

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭at9qu5vp0wcix7


    Sold a car privately for the first time in Done Deal... Have to say it was an experience. In future, I'm only going to reply to messages in which the person can actually spell properly 😂 Made me realise how many shady characters and chancers there are out there.


  • Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Sold a car privately for the first time in Done Deal... Have to say it was an experience. In future, I'm only going to reply to messages in which the person can actually spell properly �� Made me realise how many shady characters and chancers there are out there.

    Oh so many.

    I've my doubts about this message I got:
    I am home in ten days, I am interested is this model, I would like to arrange to come down and have a look? I would be back in Ireland on the 3 may

    Looks very generic, like it's been sent to loads of people about various cars. Ya never know though. Takes 2 seconds to say 'OK' and if they follow up then you might have a buyer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭Tikki Wang Wang


    salonfire wrote: »
    I am thinking of selling a high value car (2017) and not replacing it. If I go sell it to a dealer, how much of a loss percentage wise versus selling privately would I be looking at?

    50% + depending on spec.


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    50% + depending on spec.

    Jesus, what a hassle.

    So if the private value is €18000 say, I'll come out with €9000 from the dealer.


  • Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    How does one approach multiple (potential) buyers? Say you've someone coming to view today, and someone coming to view tomorrow. As a seller you'd love to play one off the other, but if buyer 1 makes an offer, is it reasonable to say you'll consider the offer for 24 hours? Obviously if you come back to buyer 1 24 hours later and accept, they know their offer was better, and could reduce it.

    Thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,297 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    There is no hard or fast rule unfortunately. It could easily work the other way where the first viewer doesn't follow through because they found another car while you stall waiting for the second viewer to make their offer. You have to weigh up how close an offer you get to your asking price and if it's worth risking holding out or end up getting no sale from either and end up selling for much less later on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭rex-x


    Bird in the hand and all that, if a buyer makes you an offer that is what you are willing to accept then take it. Most people buying a car want to buy, pay for and drive it away immediately no come back after 24 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    How does one approach multiple (potential) buyers? Say you've someone coming to view today, and someone coming to view tomorrow. As a seller you'd love to play one off the other, but if buyer 1 makes an offer, is it reasonable to say you'll consider the offer for 24 hours? Obviously if you come back to buyer 1 24 hours later and accept, they know their offer was better, and could reduce it.

    Thoughts?

    First man with the money. Make sure they all know that.


  • Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    First man with the money. Make sure they all know that.

    Yup. First man with the money got it.... 2nd man rang back after I told him it was gone and offered 500 more. :eek:

    Couldn't do that to the first guy though. A deal is a deal, hands were shook, draft "contract" (for the deposit) was signed...... sickened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    Yup. First man with the money got it.... 2nd man rang back after I told him it was gone and offered 500 more. :eek:

    Of course he'd say that. It means nothing. He may as well have said he'd have given you 5 grand more.


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  • Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    PrettyBoy wrote: »
    Of course he'd say that. It means nothing. He may as well have said he'd have given you 5 grand more.

    To be fair, maybe I'm being naive but, he sounded like he really wanted my specific car. Even before he got desperate. Time waits for no man though. Cheers all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,297 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    If you were happy and agreed to sell to the first viewer then you did the honorable thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    bazz26 wrote: »
    If you were happy and agreed to sell to the first viewer then you did the honorable thing.

    Honourable thing?! Sad times we live when keeping your side of the deal is considered honourable.

    He behaved like a decent person, that's all...


  • Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    grogi wrote: »
    Honourable thing?! Sad times we live when keeping your side of the deal is considered honourable.

    He behaved like a decent person, that's all...

    Damn right.

    Though i'd not be surprised to see/hear of boards threads along the lines of "I paid my deposit but the seller accepted a higher offer". Sad times. Hoping for some good karma to come my way. Really could of done with that 500 quid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,297 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    grogi wrote: »
    Honourable thing?! Sad times we live when keeping your side of the deal is considered honourable.

    He behaved like a decent person, that's all...

    In this day and age such things are rare, hence my post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭wassie


    bazz26 wrote: »
    If you were happy and agreed to sell to the first viewer then you did the honorable thing.

    Agreed. Deal is a deal.

    And I agree with others comments - Give me the firm cash in the hand.
    I've had too many experiences where folk are super keen and need it urgently, only to never show nor be heard of again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭wassie


    So time to sell the family wagon - 141 Ford S-Max Titanium Auto.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-s-max-titanium-2-0l-tdci-auto-fdsh/22081357

    Would appreciate any comments on my ad. Bit frustrating can only do 10 pics.

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Captainsatnav


    Sold a car privately for the first time in Done Deal... Have to say it was an experience. In future, I'm only going to reply to messages in which the person can actually spell properly �� Made me realise how many shady characters and chancers there are out there.

    Agreed - I am about to put an ad up on Done Deal / Carzone. Have experience selling random bits and pieces on Adverts and my red flag is if they can't spell, ignore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Trying to sell my own car at the moment to import something newer.

    After getting a text from 'cashoffernow' to upload my car for them to make an offer.

    Anyone any experience with these? Sounds a bit sketchy, but think they're an umbrella for an auction site?


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Shlippery wrote: »
    Trying to sell my own car at the moment to import something newer.

    After getting a text from 'cashoffernow' to upload my car for them to make an offer.

    Anyone any experience with these? Sounds a bit sketchy, but think they're an umbrella for an auction site?

    No experience, but get the Vaseline ready if you use any of those services I reckon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Delightful.

    Might just hold tight for the right person to come along so..
    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Drop your price and it will sell for more than what they’ll offer you.
    Exchange rate is good at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,297 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    These crowds tend to give you a price to get you interested, then when they come to look it over they will knock their offer down for every little thing and make it out they are doing you a favour. Think about it, they have to buy it as cheap as possible for them to make money from selling it on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Apologies for the basic question but I've never sold my car privately. Will be picking up my new car at the weekend and will have to sell the one I have then. Will be ringing my insurance company tomorrow but anyone any idea how the insurance side of things works out? I know I can't sell my old car without insurance for practical reasons like a prospective buyer wanting a test drive. Will insurance companies allow you to pay a bit for temporary insurance until the old car is sold?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Apologies for the basic question but I've never sold my car privately. Will be picking up my new car at the weekend and will have to sell the one I have then. Will be ringing my insurance company tomorrow but anyone any idea how the insurance side of things works out? I know I can't sell my old car without insurance for practical reasons like a prospective buyer wanting a test drive. Will insurance companies allow you to pay a bit for temporary insurance until the old car is sold?

    No, and that’s the risk you’ll have to take. Also having the car uninsured on your driveway/road is another problem.

    The only real solution is the get the prospective buyer to transfer their insurance onto it, other than that there’s no way around it.

    Edit I should say that some insurance companies will allow people to drive a car that’s uninsured once it’s taxed and NCTd which the buyer will have to prove. But this will only be third party


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭UngratefulWhelp


    Folks,
    I'm trying to sell my Mazda 6 but I'm getting zero bites on it. Up to this point, I think it's because it's been overpriced (I stupidly took bad advice), but now it's down where it should be, I'm still not getting any calls.

    I have it up on Donedeal and Carzone. Any other options people can recommend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    The market is flooded and it’s just usually very quiet start of September (kids going back to school etc)

    What’s the year model and mileage and how much are you asking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Can you stick up a link to the ad? Mazda 6’s are a hard enough sell. You need to be very realistic and be pricing accordingly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭UngratefulWhelp


    https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/mazda/mazda6/fpa/201908211384153

    This is it here. Quite reasonably priced, as far as I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    How is the warranty thing working?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭UngratefulWhelp


    Has a 12 month warranty from the garage from date of sale. My car, but it's basically being sold by the garage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    They’re selling it for you?

    I don’t think it’s priced bad if the warranty is good, but it’s down as a private seller on the ad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭11wingnut


    Any advice on my add please .. I know not the best time for a convertible,, but no wise cracks at it being a renault. Thanks
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megan-cabriolet-1-4-dynamique-tomtom/22732084


  • Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    11wingnut wrote: »
    Any advice on my add please .. I know not the best time for a convertible,, but no wise cracks at it being a renault. Thanks
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megan-cabriolet-1-4-dynamique-tomtom/22732084

    Pictures in various locations with various lenses (or after effects) don't help it IMO. Go to one of those locations, and take pics from front, front/side, side, side/rear and rear from the same distance to the car. Order them like that on donedeal. 1 or 2 pics of the inside, and a pic of the roof down.

    It's only been up 7 days so it's early yet.

    The time of year isn't great for selling either (back to school costs), and as you say, it's a convertible in September. Perhaps more pics of the roof down so buyers can better relate it to the current climate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    11wingnut wrote: »
    Any advice on my add please .. I know not the best time for a convertible,, but no wise cracks at it being a renault. Thanks
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megan-cabriolet-1-4-dynamique-tomtom/22732084

    Fix the title first... Its Megane, not Megan.


  • Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    grogi wrote: »
    Fix the title first... Its Megane, not Megan.

    It's also "5 star safety", not "5 stat safety", though I wouldn't even bother with that in the ad tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I have never seen one of those before.

    I would say it’s not very desirable though, in my eyes it’s more of a €4500 car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    11wingnut wrote: »
    Any advice on my add please .. I know not the best time for a convertible,, but no wise cracks at it being a renault. Thanks
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megan-cabriolet-1-4-dynamique-tomtom/22732084

    Nice car but for a niche in the market. 570 tax will affect it and 6k for what is nearly a 10 year old Mégane. 4500 would be a more realistic price tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,297 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Difficult time of the year now to be selling a drop top as the summer is done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    No, and that’s the risk you’ll have to take. Also having the car uninsured on your driveway/road is another problem.

    The only real solution is the get the prospective buyer to transfer their insurance onto it, other than that there’s no way around it.

    Edit I should say that some insurance companies will allow people to drive a car that’s uninsured once it’s taxed and NCTd which the buyer will have to prove. But this will only be third party

    Was just about to post a similar thread /question

    Have a 05 Focus with nct till next July taxes till end of this month
    Was hoping I’d just be able to trade it against the car I was getting but the dealer didn’t want it
    I’d nearly have let him take it for free to avoid the hassle of selling it !

    I’d hate to scrap it as it’s been a fine car and is still running well
    But I don’t think I want the hassle and stress of trying to sell it
    Insurance will be switched to new car in 2 weeks so may just give it till then to try and sell


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    If I do have to advertise it should I black out reg number on photos of car , certs etc

    I see some ads that do it and some that don’t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I wouldn’t block it. I know if I’m looking at a car where the reg is hidden, I either think the person is a paranoid numpty or has something to hide. I just move on to the next one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭at9qu5vp0wcix7


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I wouldn’t block it. I know if I’m looking at a car where the reg is hidden, I either think the person is a paranoid numpty or has something to hide. I just move on to the next one.

    This. You realize this when you are actually buying a car and you want to do basic background checks and get insurance quotes - reg makes it much faster. Plus, what is somebody going to do with your reg from DoneDeal that they couldn't do by just getting the reg off a car in the street?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    This. You realize this when you are actually buying a car and you want to do basic background checks and get insurance quotes - reg makes it much faster. Plus, what is somebody going to do with your reg from DoneDeal that they couldn't do by just getting the reg off a car in the street?

    Thanks I was thinking that alright
    I’m going to see if either of the local mechanics/garages want to buy it off me first
    Hate the thought of having to sell it private myself

    Going by donedeal I could prob get 7/800 for it but I’d be happy for them to give me less and take it off my hands !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    What is the car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    What is the car?

    2005 focus zetec 1.4 petrol 215k
    Nct until July next year


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peteee


    I've had a quick look through this thread and can't find an answer.

    I've agreed to sell my car for cash.

    The buyer is coming to my house tonight, with the cash, we will fill out the logbook together and then stamp it and send it with the new owner as a witness to us sending it off.

    Question is who owns the car until the logbook is processed in Shannon i.e. over the weekend and presumably until Tuesday at the earliest?

    If the buyer drives off in the car directly after posting that, are we not still the legal owner of the car until the logbook is processed? If he crashes the car over the weekend while it is still under our ownership?

    If we insist on keeping the car until the ownership is registered, then the buyer will have given us the selling price of the car in cash with nothing to show for it?

    What is the proper process here? We are planning to write up a contract but that's hardly water tight, and I feel the buyer would be reluctant to give us all the money if they can't drive off in the car that day

    The guide on the first page says not to take partial payment for a car, which would have been my solution, until the registration is done and then the buyer returns with the rest of the cash and then can take away the car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Take a picture of the completed form


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peteee


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Take a picture of the completed form

    We would be doing this also yes.

    Does the buyer then drive off in the car once the form is completed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Yes. Post the form off and off they go.


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