Selling a used car in Ireland guide

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Johnthemanager wrote: »

That's not big mileage for a 9 year old diesel.

Your average person looking for a family wagon on DoneDeal would think differently though, that is the point I am trying to make.

lalababa

colm_mcm wrote: »

I don’t think a €6k car is competing with PCP though.

You'd be very surprised...you only need around 6k for deposit. And then you have the likes of nissans subscribe and drive with 0 deposit.
But yeah this type of car would not necessarily be impacted by pcp.

Jane98

I got this email in response to my car ad and find it pretty suspicious:

Thanks for your response, where are you located?
I could actually send my private shipping agent to meet up with you for viewing the car.
I'd love to see more pictures of the car and is the car in good condition?


Any thoughts? I went back and asked them where they were located, but no reply yet.

colm_mcm

It’s a scam. 100%.

Next thing is they overpay you for the car, you send them back the overpayment, then the bank contact you to say the original lodgement has been voided.

bazz26

Tired old scam. Think about it, why would somebody from abroad want to buy a used car in Ireland that isn't rare or a classic? It makes no sense other than them trying to scam you out of money.

colm_mcm

bazz26 wrote: »

Tired old scam. Think about it, why would somebody from abroad want to buy a used car in Ireland that isn't rare or a classic? It makes no sense other than them trying to scam you out of money.

Sure they go mad for the S-Max in Lagos.

Jane98

colm_mcm wrote: »

Sure they go mad for the S-Max in Lagos.

My Dad actually sold a hiace for €1000 about 5 years ago to someone who was planning to ship it to Nigeria. Different car and price, I know.

Jane98

bazz26 wrote: »

Tired old scam. Think about it, why would somebody from abroad want to buy a used car in Ireland that isn't rare or a classic? It makes no sense other than them trying to scam you out of money.

Thats exactly what I was thinking, thanks.

colm_mcm

Jane98 wrote: »

My Dad actually sold a hiace for €1000 about 5 years ago to someone who was planning to ship it to Nigeria. Different car and price, I know.

Yeah I sold a jap import Corona to a relative, he kept it 6 years and got what he paid for it back, ended up in Africa too.

Mf310

Hey have seen some great advice and recommendations for ads used here before , I have a dilemma of my own this time, trying to sell a car but it is proving difficult have it up the last 2 weeks not one caller not even a donedeal message, and I think the ad is well put as regards info and pics .
No.1 have ye any advice/recommendations for the ad? and No.2 Is there anything else I can do to sell the car is there any dealers that buy cars for cash?
Thanks
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-jaguar-xe-r-sport/26617431

PauloMN

Mf310 wrote: »

Hey have seen some great advice and recommendations for ads used here before , I have a dilemma of my own this time, trying to sell a car but it is proving difficult have it up the last 2 weeks not one caller not even a donedeal message, and I think the ad is well put as regards info and pics .
No.1 have ye any advice/recommendations for the ad? and No.2 Is there anything else I can do to sell the car is there any dealers that buy cars for cash?
Thanks
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-jaguar-xe-r-sport/26617431

A few of my own opinions which may/may not help :

- It's probably not a great time to sell a car privately to start with, Christmas on our doorsteps and Covid complicating things. Dealers are giving good deals to get rid of stock, you are up against them.
- Price a bit on the high side, close to dealer prices for a similar car from what I can see with a quick search.
- No mention of an NCT will put people off a €20k private sale (or any sale for that matter). I simply would not entertain buying a car for that money with no NCT from anyone, let alone a private seller. I'd click to the next ad, wouldn't even call to ask about it. The NCT is the most basic of requirements when selling a car here.
- Road tax: same as above, no details of current status, or how much per annum.
- LS reg: yeah I know it shouldn't matter, and there's nothing you can do about it, but it's up there with a DL reg in terms of desirability. Lots of people don't see past the reg plate unfortunately. Anyway, nothing you can do about that - it just might limit the market a little, esp at that money.
- Interior pics could be a bit better, one of the rear seats also would be good. One of the boot also. Drop a centre console pic maybe instead, or one of the side profile pics.
- More details in the text, no mention of condition (don't assume it's obvious from the photos - tell people as well!). List some of the extras people like to see - BT audio etc.. R-Sport, what does it have for people who might not be up to speed on Jaguars.

Here's one with less miles from a dealer for the same price (no NCT details either actually, but just to show what dealers are asking for them):
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-jaguar-xe-2-0-d-r-sport-180ps-4dr-auto/26429486

jake frost

Mf310 wrote: »

Hey have seen some great advice and recommendations for ads used here before , I have a dilemma of my own this time, trying to sell a car but it is proving difficult have it up the last 2 weeks not one caller not even a donedeal message, and I think the ad is well put as regards info and pics .
No.1 have ye any advice/recommendations for the ad? and No.2 Is there anything else I can do to sell the car is there any dealers that buy cars for cash?
Thanks
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-jaguar-xe-r-sport/26617431

No offence but if I was looking for a car on Done deal, I wouldnt give a second look to your car for the reasons stated above , and also

1. Price to high for private sale when garages are doing similar for same money.
2. It says zero previous owners, this cant be true, not a new car.
3. On the face of it looks like you are flipping the car. it says imported from UK but no explanation how long you have had car.
4. Finally it doesnt say anything about how much the car tax is.

On a more general note I see a lot of 2,3 and 4 year old cars online being sold by private individuals who are pitching their prices the same as main dealers and sometimes even higher. This doesnt make sense to me, if I was going to spend €20K on a second hand car, I would be looking for a very good discount in order to forfeit warranty etc.

colm_mcm

0 previous owners means 1 owner.
That’s how donedeal does it, and that’s what appears on the vehicle registration cert.

colm_mcm

Maybe it’s a funny angle - but the bonnet gaps look twice as big as they should be between the bumper/passenger wing?

L-M

The fact there is 20/30 of those sold every year probably doesn’t help their case second hand either.

Prefect_1998

Hi,
Offer accepted on my car, selling to a big car dealer.
Car being collected by transport company.
Do I give dealer the log book with just my signature?

Regards

D

Plumbthedepths

danielle_door wrote: »

Hi,
Offer accepted on my car, selling to a big car dealer.
Car being collected by transport company.
Do I give dealer the log book with just my signature?

Regards

D

Personally I would get the person collecting the car on behalf of the dealer to sign it and post it yourself.

bazz26

Dealers don't sign logbooks. They change ownership online, they have a dealer code that temporarily moves the car under their ownership until they sell it on but it doesn't show up as another owner on the car.

Any time I've traded cars in with dealers I've given them the log book unsigned. Best thing to do is just ask the dealer how to proceed.

deegs

Advice needed.
Selling a car all agreed price etc. as he lives far away. I believe a genuine buyer.
Final step he asked for an inspection. No worries as I expect aa or something. But with covid I suppose it is hard to get an inspector.
One was booked for today but it got cancelled this morning as the inspector was tagged as a confirmed covid case. I could find very little online about the inspector but he did have a linked in profile where in he is a qualified engineer and inspects machines and vehicles.

So he can't inspect, they buyer is trying to find someone else to inspect and he is hoping someone can drop out wed to inspect.

My dilemma is that most common places are closed to business aa, rac etc. And I'm going to get a less reputable person that I possibly have not heard of before (I've asked for his details) to come and take the keys of my car for a few hours.

I'm very uncomfortable by this, and I'll ask for proof of insurance but really... Is that any consolation? I know if I want it sold now I need to put up or wait till covid blows over, but is there anything else you would do? I'd feel uncomfortable asking for a deposit, or should I?

User1998

Plenty of inspection crowds that come to your house and only take 30 minutes in your garden?

deegs

User1998 wrote: »

Plenty of inspection crowds that come to your house and only take 30 minutes in your garden?

Ah ok... I thought he'd take it to a garage!

Sappy404

Hi folks. I have a quick question about an unused car I want rid of.

I know if I transfer ownership that I'm no longer liable for any owed tax on the vehicle, but I'm thinking of going the scrappage route as it hasn't been driven in years and the battery is dead. I understand when scrapping a car the tax situation is different, and owed tax is due when declaring it off the road. But if I was to use a 'we buy any car' type service, or a local scrapyard, would I be the one scrapping it, or do they take ownership first (freeing me of tax liability) and then scrap it?

L-M

Sappy404 wrote: »

Hi folks. I have a quick question about an unused car I want rid of.

I know if I transfer ownership that I'm no longer liable for any owed tax on the vehicle, but I'm thinking of going the scrappage route as it hasn't been driven in years and the battery is dead. I understand when scrapping a car the tax situation is different, and owed tax is due when declaring it off the road. But if I was to use a 'we buy any car' type service, or a local scrapyard, would I be the one scrapping it, or do they take ownership first (freeing me of tax liability) and then scrap it?

You wouldn’t be liable for the tax if they do buy it or if they actually scrap the car. Use someone reputable and you’ll be fine.

The only instance the tax liability comes in is if someone tries to tax the car while you’re still the owner, and even at that they’d have to pay the arrears to tax it...

Long story short, don’t worry about it.

digiman

Hey folks, if selling your car to a motor dealer? How is the logbook handled?

Dealer says that they will fill this in online themselves, he said they have a way to handle it that avoids another owner being put on the car.

Can anyone verify?

User1998

digiman wrote: »

Hey folks, if selling your car to a motor dealer? How is the logbook handled?

Dealer says that they will fill this in online themselves, he said they have a way to handle it that avoids another owner being put on the car.

Can anyone verify?

Yep that is true

Sappy404

L-M wrote: »

You wouldn’t be liable for the tax if they do buy it or if they actually scrap the car. Use someone reputable and you’ll be fine.

The only instance the tax liability comes in is if someone tries to tax the car while you’re still the owner, and even at that they’d have to pay the arrears to tax it...

Long story short, don’t worry about it.

I checked an FAQ and saw that if declaring a car off road I'm liable for tax owed. Is that not the case if scrapping the car?

ELM327

Sappy404 wrote: »

I checked an FAQ and saw that if declaring a car off road I'm liable for tax owed. Is that not the case if scrapping the car?

Nope. Just scrap away

Fyfe

Hi everyone, long time lurker but this is my first post, trying to sell my VW Golf and looking for some advice from the experts as to how I can improve my ad. It’s been up for over a week and so far have only received a couple of messages, no phone calls. I realise it’s probably a terrible time to be selling and the only reason I am now is because I am due my first baby soon and need something with more space for all the baby paraphernalia.

Mainly wondering am I asking too much for it? Also I may need to retake the photos as I see in the opening post the advice to take the photos next to a wall or fence, whereas you can see all the shabby old sheds in the background of mine!!!

Just realised I can’t post a URL because I’m a new user so if anyone has some time on their hands and would like to look at my ad and advise me I would really appreciate it!! It’s on Carzone, it’s the 2016 (161) Volkswagen Golf
2.0 Edition R Hatchback Diesel Manual for €15,000. If you search with filters there are 22 results and it’s near the bottom. Thanks!!

colm_mcm

This one?

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Volkswagen/Golf/fpa/202102159099153?journey=Search

It’s a UK “Match” model.

I would suggest putting it on donedeal, as carzone is more for dealers.
It’s the cheapest 2.0 of that year for the mileage, but you’re competing with dealers who give warranty etc.

Car could be presented better in the pics, also as you say the backdrop isn’t great either. Description isn’t great either, could go with something like:
“Bought from Oliver Walsh Motors in October 2017, full service history from UK and Irish VW dealers”, Averaging 53mog - stuff like that. Get people to trust you.

At the moment it’s tiny amount if specific info and then a wall of crap at the bottom of the ad

ABS,Air conditioning,Body colour power door mirrors,heated with integrated indicator lights,Brake assist system,Centre armrest between front seats,Cruise control,Cup holders for front seats and rear seats,Driver and passenger seat: sports type,Electronic traction control,Front and rear electric windows with one-touch on two windows,Front and rear reading lights,Front fog lights,Halogen low beam halogen high beam headlights with complex surface lenses,Illuminated driver and passenger vanity mirror,Isofix preparation,Leather covered multi-function steering wheel with tilt adjustment and telescopic adjustment,Performance: maximum speed 134 mph,216 km/h acceleration 8.6 seconds (0-100 km/h),Rear view mirror,Remote controlled remote boot/hatch/rear door release,Seat upholstery: cloth and cloth,Steering wheel mounted remote audio controls,Tinted glass,Windscreen wipers

List the important stuff, we don’t need to know that it has halogen high beam headlights with complex surface lenses.


Make a concise list:

2016 VW Golf Match Edition


2.0 TDI 150PS Bluemotion engine
6 speed gearbox
Cruise control
Front and rear parking sensors
Auto lights and wipers
Bluetooth audio streaming
Bluetooth phone
Front and rear electric windows
Remote locking (2 keys)
Factory fitted alarm with deadlocks
Front Assist (Forward collision warning)
Air conditioning
16 inch alloy wheels


Not sure if it has adaptive cruise control, reverse camera or satnav, if it does then list those too.



You’re up against the likes of these from dealers:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-2016-highline-2-0tdi-150-bhp/27036105

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-golf-2016-gt-tdi-14444-sale/26694576

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-golf-2016-pan-roof-low-milage-top-spec/26895654

Fyfe

colm_mcm wrote: »

This one?

It’s a UK “Match” model.

I would suggest putting it on donedeal, as carzone is more for dealers.
It’s the cheapest 2.0 of that year for the mileage, but you’re competing with dealers who give warranty etc.

Car could be presented better in the pics, also as you say the backdrop isn’t great either. Description isn’t great either, could go with something like:
“Bought from Oliver Walsh Motors in October 2017, full service history from UK and Irish VW dealers”, Averaging 53mog - stuff like that. Get people to trust you.

At the moment it’s tiny amount if specific info and then a wall of crap at the bottom of the ad



List the important stuff, we don’t need to know that it has halogen high beam headlights with complex surface lenses.


Make a concise list:

2016 VW Golf Match Edition


2.0 TDI 150PS Bluemotion engine
6 speed gearbox
Cruise control
Front and rear parking sensors
Auto lights and wipers
Bluetooth audio streaming
Bluetooth phone
Front and rear electric windows
Remote locking (2 keys)
Factory fitted alarm with deadlocks
Front Assist (Forward collision warning)
Air conditioning
16 inch alloy wheels


Not sure if it has adaptive cruise control, reverse camera or satnav, if it does then list those too.


You’re up against the likes of these from dealers:

That’s the one, yeah I do have it on Donedeal as well, and adverts.ie and Facebook Marketplace but the ads are all the same so I’ll change them all.

I bought it from Charles Hurst in Belfast but just got the licence plates in Oliver Walshes, hope that doesn’t matter! I priced it lower than the others because of the lack of a warranty alright.

That’s great advice anyway, loads to work with so thanks a mil, much appreciated!! Will get editing now!

colm_mcm

Plates aren’t a big deal- I’m just giving an example of the detail that you could put in to add some credibility. The fact that you bought it from a reputable outfit is a big plus. If you got a history check done back then, mention that too. Show that you were fussy about the car you bought.

I think you probably need to knock a bit off your asking price still, but in the meantime try and get the car properly clean. Take at least 8 exterior pictures
Ideally you’d cover all angles of the car, think of a compass covering north, north east, east, south east etc.

Get a few of the interior too showing the dash etc.

Greenlights16

First time selling a car in Ireland, DoneDeal - 16 saves of my car and 393 views in 3 days since Sunday and not one message. How strange! Or maybe saving means nothing.

Must be a bad time with level 5 lockdown,

bazz26

Not really. Donedeal is always full of window shoppers. Lockdown certainly plays a part in it too as it narrows down your options. If the advert is only up 3 days then you need to patient, it can take time to sell a car.

Greenlights16

Yeah I’m reluctant to go near Facebook marketplace, and have ruled out adverts.ie completely. Seems like either a wasteland on there or absolute numpties starting a silly offer thread under your ad

bazz26

All these places are full of time wasters with no money or no intention of buying. With the lockdown they have even more time than before to be browsing cars and sending text messages asking you what's your bottom price without even seeing the car first. Welcome to dealing with the general public, unfortunately it comes with the territory of selling stuff.

nsnoefc1878

bazz26 wrote: »

All these places are full of time wasters with no money or no intention of buying. With the lockdown they have even more time than before to be browsing cars and sending text messages asking you what's your bottom price without even seeing the car first. Welcome to dealing with the general public, unfortunately it comes with the territory of selling stuff.

You're not wrong, I've sold a few things on facebook and adverts, but you've to be willing to take a lot of darkness before the dawn arrives.
I'd be more inclined to sell on those platforms than to buy, especially so with facebook.

Greenlights16

Partner selling her car this week and buyer is picking up Wednesday - sum is €5K euros.

If in cash - is best practice to tell them to meet you at your local AIB branch etc and lodge cash immediately before car is taken away?

If bank transfer - should she request that they bank transfer the funds tomorrow so that they’re in her account by Wednesday when they come to collect?

She doesn’t know which they’re doing yet but thinks it will be cash based on conversation when the person bought and viewed it last week

nsnoefc1878

Greenlights16 wrote: »

Partner selling her car this week and buyer is picking up Wednesday - sum is €5K euros.

If in cash - is best practice to tell them to meet you at your local AIB branch etc and lodge cash immediately before car is taken away?

If bank transfer - should she request that they bank transfer the funds tomorrow so that they’re in her account by Wednesday when they come to collect?

She doesn’t know which they’re doing yet but thinks it will be cash based on conversation when the person bought and viewed it last week

I'd be finding out how they are paying asap.
I prefer cash, make sure to do it somewhere safe, and arrange to have it checked before the deal is done. A bank would be the best place for that.

colm_mcm

I’d rather get it on Revolut than be taking cash or going to a bank tbh.

Greenlights16

Thanks

grogi

colm_mcm wrote: »

I’d rather get it on Revolut than be taking cash or going to a bank tbh.

Yep. Instant payment or it is the buyer that deposes to my account.

I don't want to touch cash at all.

Greenlights16

Seller confirmed they’re giving cash at weekend, lad is getting it out from credit union. She asked for Revolut and they said they’d no problem but cash was already arranged from CU.

When you say buyer deposits to your account - is it unreasonable to ask them to go straight to your local bank branch tomorrow with the cash first?

If She were to let them come ahead , hand over the cash and then go and deposit after, have you a leg to stand on if there was an issue with cash?

grogi

Greenlights16 wrote: »

Seller confirmed they’re giving cash at weekend, lad is getting it out from credit union. She asked for Revolut and they said they’d no problem but cash was already arranged from CU.

When you say buyer deposits to your account - is it unreasonable to ask them to go straight to your local bank branch tomorrow with the cash first?

If She were to let them come ahead , hand over the cash and then go and deposit after, have you a leg to stand on if there was an issue with cash?

Trying to depose forged cash is felony. Answer yourself who do you want to be doing it?

Greenlights16

Good point cheers for reply

I will never buy car from seller who has answer I dont know.
I will never buy car from person who telling that timing belt just done
I will never buy car from person who telling car is perfect condition.Nobody will sell car in perfect condion.
I will never even look at car with No price in advert.
I will never overpay for car with 3 months warranty because from my own experience is lie

I will buy car from person who will tell me that timing belt kit needs to be done or clutch giving problem.Also will tell me about every problem with car.That will help me calculate additional expences.
I will buy car after NCT only
Otherwise please dont try sell old car as perfect at your dream price.Because I will simply buy cheapest at the market and will ad saved money to timing belt kit,new clutch and will get car for same price as you dreaming about to get for yours answering me I dont know.

grogi

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I will never buy car /.../.

Readers digest

On a serious note: you're the minority. People want to buy illusions, not reality. They want to feel they are getting a steal.

On a completely different note, all my car's were is excellent condition when I was selling them. Selling a car isn't always about getting rid of the scrap: I get bored or circumstances change sometimes.

Greenlights16

Greenlights16 wrote: »

Partner selling her car this week and buyer is picking up Wednesday - sum is €5K euros.

If in cash - is best practice to tell them to meet you at your local AIB branch etc and lodge cash immediately before car is taken away?

If bank transfer - should she request that they bank transfer the funds tomorrow so that they’re in her account by Wednesday when they come to collect?

She doesn’t know which they’re doing yet but thinks it will be cash based on conversation when the person bought and viewed it last week

5K in cash is not big money.I could pay cash to seller no problem and I will not pay any other way unless I will drive to the bank with car I bought ,2 keys and log book in hands.

grogi

grogi wrote: »

Readers digest

On a serious note: you're the minority. People want to buy illusions, not reality. They want to feel they are getting a steal.

On a completely different note, all my car's were is excellent condition when I was selling them. Selling a car isn't always about getting rid of the scrap: I get bored or circumstances change sometimes.

People like you make world better.Looking for MPV type car,let me know please when you will have one for sale.Thank you

I am agree about people who love buy car listening seller not the car.

grogi

[Deleted User] wrote: »

People like you make world better.Looking for MPV type car,let me know please when you will have one for sale.Thank you

I am agree about people who love buy car listening seller not the car.

Have a C4 Grand Picasso... Im bored with it immensely, but wife loves it...

bazz26

bazz26 wrote: »

All these places are full of time wasters with no money or no intention of buying. With the lockdown they have even more time than before to be browsing cars and sending text messages asking you what's your bottom price without even seeing the car first. Welcome to dealing with the general public, unfortunately it comes with the territory of selling stuff.

There is plenty arrogant dealers which hardly move them arses trying understand that the harder they work the more money they get and the less they answer the less interest buyer has
I found motor from one as they call Independent Dealer on donedeal toady
Nothing fancy and straight forward deal.
I rung to dealer ,he did not answer his phone what is normal for Sunday
I sent message were I told that I would like go forward if delivery will be organized due with 5 km Covid rule
I said I am happy about what I getting for my money,did not asking him about timing belts/tyres/ because all what was needed for me is properly running car for that kind of money
I described my interest clearly and I said I am happy pay asked price plus 160 delivery charge which I accepted also

The guy said he is not gonna deliver until money paid to him .He is not even gona deliver if I will pay him 160 euros before car will be brought down for viewing.
From my side having experience with dodgy dealerships before I am not gona pay money to unknown person for car which I did not see
At the moment dealer play smart and treat me as time waster when I am at same time looking for another car from another dealer

The price of the deal 3K which can be paid by cash no problem

I hope recession coming will change thinking of some sellers
For example there was about 75K cars 2 months ago on Donedeal
Now about 81 K ! And prices started falling already