Media Reaction down under

jprender

What is going to happen if the Aussies make it to the WC final ?


The media over there will be in meltdown when we beat them again.

B0X

We include tag rugby players in our total so our actual base is probably a good bit smaller.

Junior

I don't think anyone is really taking any this of media bile anyway serious, it's just a window into the level of journalists that are in Australia, nothing more. I would think they'd laugh the same amount at Hugh *I nick stuff from boards* Farrrrrrrellley

laugh

If your team is completely written off by opposition media you're going to be interested in what they have to say after you beat them.

kabakuyu

KevIRL wrote: »

Not media per se, but worth it for the lolz

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/a-drunken-letter-to-the-wallabies/

The well loved and often used aussie term "whinging Pom" should now be laid to rest,we could replace "pom " with "wallabies"
IMO The author of the above article displays a hint of bigotry/prejudice towards the Irish.

Monty Burnz

amacachi wrote: »

LOL at the characterisation of League on here. It would be hard to do something similar for Union, like call it Kick-clap or complain about how the ball is in play for about 50 minutes in a match and most of that consists of primary school-like pile-ons with a teacher with a whistle standing nearby.

I watch league and enjoy a good match, but there's no denying the game is pretty one-dimensional. Union is certainly more start-stop, but you've got the mini-games of rucks, mauls, scrums, lineouts adding no only to the variety in entertainment terms, but also in the ways to approach the game tactically.

Different folks/strokes. But I find it amusing when league fans characterise union as boring.

aeonfusion

Sure if you look at that graph Japan has almost twice as many adult male players as Ireland and New Zealand, and NZ's win against them the other day kinda speaks for itself on the subject of player base = quality of rugby played. I mean let's face it, Australia have been playing rugby at that level longer than Ireland. As Hook said 'Australia are the more skillful side' which is true, however the skill can't be shown if Ireland smother them and they aren't allowed play the game how they want to, which they weren't and it's clear that that was Irelands gameplan and it worked perfectly.

If you compare it to Ireland and Italy, Ireland are the more skillful team, this is definatly true. Obviously there's not the same skill difference between Australia and Ireland as Italy and Ireland but it's the same principal. Somewhere down the road, it could be in 2 weeks (hopefully not ) or in 20 years Italy will beat us in an important match like this. The game is still evolving in many countries and as time passes the gap in skill between the top teams will tighten and there will be fewer of the 'sure thing' victories that we see now.

Monty Burnz

.ak wrote: »

Here's a graph...

More adult males in Oz, but still you get the idea, we have a larger base...

You'll notice there aren't that many women or children on the senior team. Not too many tag players either, now that I look at the team sheet, although I think Paddy Wallace is one.

irishh_bob

Morgans wrote: »

Rugby isnt the main sport anywhere except New Zealand and possibly the polynesian islands. It doesnt mean that France, South Africa and Australia aren't some of the best teams. And the best aussies are in rugby league may have been true 20/30 years ago, its far less clear now. Yet its still trotted out to suggest rugby union isnt important in Australia. The vast majority of converts from League have failed to do anything more than fleeting in rugby union in Australia, and there are very few converts from Union to League.

I dont get why people are getting extra enjoyment of reading the SMH. Dont know the quality of the newspaper but the quality of the articles are muck. Written to stick the knife into their own players. They will be first in line to celebrate should they go on to win. No point giving those types oxygen.

Australians sports fans are arrogant. Is this a surprise to anyone?

rugby union is the number one sport in new zealand , south africa , tonga , fiji , samoa and of course wales and is in the top three most popular sports in dozens of countrys

rugby league is the national sport in one country , papau new guinea :eek: and is completely and utterly dominated by one country , australia

ArmaniJeanss

irishh_bob wrote: »

rugby league is the national sport in one country , papau new guinea :eek: and is completely and utterly dominated by one country , australia

New Zealand won the most recent World Cup, winning the final in Brisbane.

Mister Dread

I don't understand where this embarrasment comes from the Aussie side. We were the fourth ranked side coming into the world before the warm up matches (which Ireland admitted to playing as friendlies but still played poorly). We've been a top 4-6 side for most of the last decade and have beaten the Aussies a number of times in the last few years. It's hardly a shock of the century that we won.

matthew8

irishh_bob wrote: »

rugby union is the number one sport in new zealand , south africa , tonga , fiji , samoa and of course wales and is in the top three most popular sports in dozens of countrys

rugby league is the national sport in one country , papau new guinea :eek: and is completely and utterly dominated by one country , australia

South Africa? I know they get better crowds for rugby than for football (only the rugby managed to fill Soccer City but I think football would be the biggest sport there. It would be interesting to see some data on that. Also, I'm not sure about Wales. On a national level rugby would be the biggest but I'm not sure that more people support rugby than football.

heybaby

Mister Dread wrote: »

I don't understand where this embarrasment comes from the Aussie side. We were the fourth ranked side coming into the world before the warm up matches (which Ireland admitted to playing as friendlies but still played poorly). We've been a top 4-6 side for most of the last decade and have beaten the Aussies a number of times in the last few years. It's hardly a shock of the century that we won.

Given that ireland had found great difficulty stringing together a coherent 40 mins never mind a series of victories in the last 18 months, I think the Australians are within their rights to be shocked that they were turned over by Ireland. Very fwe people saw that performance coming. Think about it, the previous week ireland laboured against a team of american amateurs, when irish fans domnt know what kind of performance their team is going to deliver then you cant blame the australians for being perplexed and slightly embarrassed.

Indeed we have been at top 4 - 6 side in the last decade, however there has been consistently a gap between 1 - 3 and 4 - 6.

donfers

Mister Dread wrote: »

I don't understand where this embarrasment comes from the Aussie side. We were the fourth ranked side coming into the world before the warm up matches (which Ireland admitted to playing as friendlies but still played poorly). We've been a top 4-6 side for most of the last decade and have beaten the Aussies a number of times in the last few years. It's hardly a shock of the century that we won.

I think a lot of it stems from the fact australian sport hasn't been in great shape in the last couple of years compared with its excellent performances through many sports in the early years of the millenium, they're no longer top dogs in cricket, soccer team still hasn't kicked on, after glory in the swimming pool in sydney they've fallen away again, hewitt is no longer a force in tennis, webber is an also-ran in formula 1, they've a few ok golfers and sam stosur recently won the us open in tennis and they have a female world champion at 100m hurdles in sally pearon but it's relatively slim pickings for a nation which prides itself on being a sporting force - on a global level they're not dominating anymore and they really believed this team was the chance for them to reassert themselves at a global sporting event, after winning the tri-nations and defeating the kiwis they believed it was time for them to reclaim some glory and then little old Ireland bate them out the door so it's understandable their media and public are a bit shellshocked, they certainly weren't expecting this, this wasn't how the script was supposed to pan out - in short they really need this team to succeed so are unsurprisingly lashing out when things go pear-shaped

however let's not overlook two points

1) they may very well still win it

2) all this talk of northerm hemi in one side of the pool and southern in another is premature, i can't believe even kidney was at it, we still have to beat Italy which is far from a foregone conclusion and it would be a very Irish thing to do to lose the game after beating the ossies

aeonfusion

donfers wrote: »

1) they may very well still win it

2) we still have to beat Italy which is far from a foregone conclusion and it would be a very Irish thing to do to lose the game after beating the ossies

Yea there's still definatly a good chance the aussies will win it, lets face it they're not gonna lose their remaining pool games...unless USA are now secertly amazing and that's why we looked so bad against them last week :P

I really don't see them losing to Italy but...yea...they might go out there with that attitude and bottle it due to a lack of the 'passion and drive' that they had against the aussies. We all know the Irish can give some surprising performances for both good and bad, i don't see them losing unless they get some crazy 20% success rate with kicks. Not impossible but not very likely imo.

I think it's more of a case of 'if the groups pan out without any incredibly unexpected upsets' we will be facing Wales in the quarter finals and well seeing as group B is the question mark group god knows who will be in the semi's but it will be either Scotland, England, France or Argentina, unless France beat the All Blacks, suppose that wouldn't be incredibly unexpected, it's definatly possible, i don't think it's very likely though going off the results of the Japan matches between both, not a very good indicator but it says a lot about both team's ability to score and defend.

GerM

matthew8 wrote: »

South Africa? I know they get better crowds for rugby than for football (only the rugby managed to fill Soccer City but I think football would be the biggest sport there. It would be interesting to see some data on that. Also, I'm not sure about Wales. On a national level rugby would be the biggest but I'm not sure that more people support rugby than football.

You're right. Football is hands down the most popular sport in South Africa. Keep in mind that 80% of the population is black. Rugby is the sport of the Afrikaans. This might have changed slightly but football is still streets ahead. I'm almost sure the same is true in Wales where football is more popular again despite rugby being more closely linked with their national identity.

tolosenc

donfers wrote: »

it would be a very Irish thing to do to lose the game after beating the ossies

The single most Irish thing that can happen is that Ireland will lose to Italy and go out due to not having picked up bonus points.

donfers

tolosenc wrote: »

The single most Irish thing that can happen is that Ireland will lose to Italy and go out due to not having picked up bonus points.

which is why we should be hoping italy don't pick up the four try bonus point againsy usa and russia, and we better pick it up against russia, let's try to take a bit of pressure off ourselves for that last game

swordofislam

laugh wrote: »

- Our base is only recently enlarged due to an increase in the popularity of the game.

- They have 14,000 more adult male players and that's what counts.

And remember there is absolutely NO skills crossover between League and Union!

swordofislam

tolosenc wrote: »

The single most Irish thing that can happen is that Ireland will lose to Italy and go out due to not having picked up bonus points.

No chance of that. We are playing in Otago a covered stadium.
Thanks be to God that Rugby is so blatantly rigged.

Kayless

swordofislam wrote: »

No chance of that. We are playing in Otago a covered stadium.
Thanks be to God that Rugby is so blatantly rigged.

Please elaborate...

Gingko

The Aussies have the worst "Sporting Nature" on the globe. Arrogant when victorious and dismissive and insulting in defeat. Immature to say the least. No surprise to most of us though.

I lived there for three years. There I experienced wide spread ignorance, arrogance, xenophobia and angry white men the length and breadth of Australia. Not forgetting to mention road rage and even surf rage on the beaches! Constant bust ups on sportsfields. I always laughed when they called the English whinging poms? The Aussies are 10 times worse! It is one country I have absolutely no desire to return to. Bland and culture-less and their identity insecurities fuel their anger. There is the good, bad and the ugly in every country including our own. But more of the ugly and angry in theirs.

swordofislam

Sonics2k wrote: »

Articles like that are actually quite common in Australia, I saw quite a lot of them when I lived there, which was during the times of the Sydney Olympics and the Lions tour.

They are as gracious in defeat as they are in victory.

swordofislam

Kayless wrote: »

Please elaborate...

It was scripted. The convicts would get over their Eden Park Hoodoo against Ireland and then Ireland's backs would run rings around Italy in a nice clean unmuddy game that wouldn't be a bruising forwards encounter.

They script the whole thing out in advance. It isn't rigged as we saw yesterday and last night and today but it is scripted.

swordofislam

Gingko wrote: »

There is the good, bad and the ugly in every country including our own. But more of the ugly and angry in theirs.

We all know why but this is the Rugby forum not the history forum.

Gingko

swordofislam wrote: »

We all know why but this is the Rugby forum not the history forum.

I know I know!!

athtrasna

Back to the topic...here's a great article from today's New Zealand Herald

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=522&objectid=10752758&ref=mobile

Ireland for Rugby World Cup final?
By Peter Bills
5:30 AM Monday Sep 19, 2011
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Ireland has come along way since the days of Tony O'Reilly. Photo / NZ Herald archives
Ireland, ah Ireland.

Instigators of the biggest upset to date in the Rugby World Cup this weekend and the biggest hangovers known to mankind for some of those celebrating.

Had there ever been a rugby playing nation less suited to the rigours and demands of professional rugby? Was there ever a nation that so epitomised the fun and frivolity of the old amateur era?

It is 41 years since Irish rugby enacted one of the funniest sights ever witnessed around the international game. Tony O'Reilly, seven years after what he thought had been his final appearance for his country, received a terse message as he entertained guests in a London nightclub, 48 hours before the 1970 England vs Ireland game.

"Injury crisis. Report tomorrow, 10am, training" it said. And so he did, in his own inimitable style. At the appointed hour, a Rolls Royce cruised through the gates. When it stopped, the chauffeur got out, collected a kitbag from the boot and handed it to O'Reilly as he stepped out.

Alas, O'Reilly was no longer the sleek athlete, as his teammates well knew.


As he puffed his way around the training ground, lagging at the back with McBride, Willie John produced his great line.

"Reilly, there'd be no point in yer doing all this trainin'. Get yer chauffeur to do it for yer."

Now fast forward to the present time. A highly disciplined, dedicated performance rich in strategy detonated the assumed order of events in this 2011 World Cup on Saturday night.

The levels of concentration and intensity were light years away from anything most Irish teams of previous times could muster.

The nation they said would never adapt to the requirements of professionalism could now be pushing at a door that says "World Cup final".

Wallaby coach Robbie Deans admitted: "It was a very good Irish performance. They fully deserved their win. They played more intelligently than us and put us under a lot of pressure particularly in our area of the ground."

Could Ireland now go on to reach the final and maybe even win it?

"If Ireland can maintain that level then, yes. There are a number of sides that can win this World Cup. I think you will see that week to week."

This triumph for Irish discipline and desire was also confirmation that the so-called golden era of Ireland rugby may yet have one last hurrah. Inspired by the brilliant Brian O'Driscoll, Ireland won a Grand Slam in the Six Nations of 2009 and has claimed four Triple Crowns since 2000.

No one has known that better than O'Driscoll, a pragmatist down to his cotton socks.

For him, the true arbiter was always the World Cup, and at every one in his era, they have failed miserably.

Not for nothing did the captain tell his men this week, with the Australian game always likely to hold the key to Ireland's 2011 World Cup, "It is now or never."

The Irish players' respect for their captain goes deep. Deep enough to find that extra half breath when worn out lungs are burning with exhaustion. And certainly deep enough to hurl themselves in among the boots, where the claret flows and the bruises come as if from trucks hurtling down a highway.

But what may have surprised even Brian O'Driscoll was this Irish team's ability to maintain the crushing tourniquet they set out to wrap around Australian throats, and then tighten it still further. Their scrummage was a potent weapon that was far too much for the Wallabies.

Sekope Kepu, Australia's loose head prop, just couldn't "cope" at all with Irish tight head Mike Ross and the power coming through from the Irish pack. And on the other side of the front row, Cian Healy rightly won the man of the match award for his personal demolition of Wallaby tight head Ben Alexander, who was eventually withdrawn 17 minutes from the end to save him further punishment.

In truth, the whole Irish pack was supreme. Their fitness levels were exemplary, their attitude outstanding.

In this professional era, these Irish rugby men are making a commendable fist of handling all its many requirements. And best of all, there is not a chauffeur in sight at their training ground.

Monty Burnz

athtrasna wrote: »

Back to the topic...here's a great article from today's New Zealand Herald

I'd regard that as a puff piece, the equivalent of an article on Posh's new shoes in the women's section. Bills is a bit schizophrenic too - he'll be writing in a few weeks about how hopeless we are.

robd

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I'd regard that as a puff piece, the equivalent of an article on Posh's new shoes in the women's section. Bills is a bit schizophrenic too - he'll be writing in a few weeks about how hopeless we are.

He was indeed writing about how hopeless all the Northern Hemisphere teams were, just last week. The comments on the article on nzherald website seem to concur with your schizophrenic theory.

peckerhead

Gotta say I still haven't seen any sour grapes from the Aussies to match those of S. Africa when we've beaten them.

molloyjh

Just watching the Fox post match commentary after Phil Kearns comment before the game. The panel - Kearns was pitchside - all agreed we were "sensational". They felt Lawrence was fair at the scrum too. There wasn't really any bitterness or anything. They even reckoned we made fools of them as commentators.

Genia and Beale were very honest and gracious too. Beale even said that the coaching staff at half time were a bit complacent!!!

Kearns said we were magnificent so even he wasn't bad. He did knock the ref, but he said it affected both teams so he wasn't blaming him. So to be fair they were actually quite balanced.

athtrasna

peckerhead wrote: »

Gotta say I still haven't seen any sour grapes from the Aussies to match those of S. Africa when we've beaten them.

How about this then? http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/rugby-gold/clever-irish-faked-the-way-to-victory/story-fn8ouw0e-1226142942135

Clever Irish faked way to victory
Tim Horan From: The Daily Telegraph September 22, 2011 12:00am

Game plan: Ireland slowed the game down to their advantage against the Wallabies.

IRELAND had a deliberate plan to fake injuries each time there was a breakdown in play last Saturday, so they could slow the game down and frustrate the Wallabies.


How can I be sure? By talking to Irish assistant coach Alan Gaffney in the dressing rooms afterwards.

If James Horwill was more experienced as a captain, he would have blown up about it to referee Bryce Lawrence and really created a scene - there is no way Richie McCaw would have stayed silent if a team used the same tactics against the All Blacks.

Australia's future opponents will have taken notice of the strategy.

Ireland had a game plan for Australia and it worked a treat: to slow the game down just for stoppages, target them in the scrum, and put the high ball up at every opportunity.

They also used the "choker tackle" taught by their defensive coach Les Kiss. They identified that the Australian midfield ran quite upright and successfully held them up to get turnovers.

The shame was that Lawrence destroyed the spectacle of the game. Ireland deserved to win and always would have won, but the way Lawrence handled the match means he should not get another game at the World Cup. It is about the spectacle, not just for the rugby diehards but general sports fans who want to enjoy this tournament.

One thing that really bugs me is if the ball is at the back of the scrum, why reset it or blow a penalty? Why not let the game continue? When you are on the world stage, the referee has a responsibility to let the game flow.

But the Wallabies also have to realise that one in every 15 Test matches you play, you're going to have to win by playing a boring, unattractive brand of rugby, simply because of the conditions. You're going to win 9-6 or 12-6, playing in the wet, in an ordinary Test, but it doesn't matter how unattractive it is - you do whatever it takes to win.

At the weekend, Australia ran when they should have kicked, and kicked when they should have run. Trying to play to one game plan all the time will not work when, like last Saturday, there was torrential rain beforehand and the ball was slippery.

Ireland came in with a very simple game plan that suited the conditions.

They hardly threw the ball wide and took short lineouts that allowed their forwards to run off centres Gordon D'Arcy and Brian O'Driscoll, which worked well during the Six Nations.

Australia were rushing their restarts, that didn't work in our favour and it's something Quade Cooper has to take responsibility for as a leader in the team.

It was a bad result, but we still have a good chance. I'm not going to talk about semi-finals just yet, but if we do end up on the other side of the draw and play South Africa in the quarter-finals, it's not a bad thing.

The Wallabies have defeated the Springboks in four of the last five encounters, we know how to beat them.

What the side needs to do now is ensure they pick up the maximum 10 points from their remaining two games, and it starts tomorrow night against the United States.

It has surprised some that Rob Horne has been chosen at inside centre but I saw it coming and I think it is a great move. The plan looking forward would be to partner Horne and Adam Ashley-Cooper in the centres, and when Digby Ioane returns from injury I think we'll see that happen.

That is the midfield Australia is likely to take into finals. There is still hope for the Wallabies they can turn this around.

But they can only do it by having a Plan B if Plan A fails.

Monty Burnz

Funny, on watching the game a second time, I figure the Irish went wide as often as the Aussies, albeit not with the same pace. The idea that we stuffed the ball up the jumper is nonsense.

irishbucsfan

Pfft Tim Horan. What does he know about rugby!

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

molloyjh wrote: »

Just watching the Fox post match commentary after Phil Kearns comment before the game. The panel - Kearns was pitchside - all agreed we were "sensational". They felt Lawrence was fair at the scrum too. There wasn't really any bitterness or anything. They even reckoned we made fools of them as commentators.

Genia and Beale were very honest and gracious too. Beale even said that the coaching staff at half time were a bit complacent!!!

Kearns said we were magnificent so even he wasn't bad. He did knock the ref, but he said it affected both teams so he wasn't blaming him. So to be fair they were actually quite balanced.

Yeah, they were fair enough commentators but you could do a nice little edit montage of their wrong calls. Kearns was adamant Quade Cooper was taken out by BOD for the Sexton garryowen even when the replay showed him diving like a soccer player!

JustinDee

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Pfft Tim Horan. What does he know about rugby!

An absolute legend, one of the greatest players I've ever seen and someone I've had the pleasure of meeting on a number of occasions.

Only problem is that he is a Queenslander. A Banana Bender. A Cane Toad. They are never beaten in gametime. Its always the ref, the union, the opposition crowd, the media, the IRB, the conditions, the timing, etc etc.

Suck it up, Hoz.

CatFromHue

I do find it funny an Aussie giving out about a supposed faked injury! Weren't these the guys who took the mick when the whole blood sub rule came in first?

I didn't think we up and undered it all the time either. For what it's worth ESPN have Sexton's stats as 7/13/3 for kick/pass/run compared to 4/17/10 for Cooper. Kicked more yes, but not at every opportunity.

The "choke" tackle is something we've been doing for a while now so they should have been expecting it.

padraig.od

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Funny, on watching the game a second time, I figure the Irish went wide as often as the Aussies, albeit not with the same pace. The idea that we stuffed the ball up the jumper is nonsense.

Indeed. I mean there wouldn't have been so many scrums if the Oz hooker could throw the ball straight. That was what the game so stop start.

Zzippy

JustinDee wrote: »

An absolute legend, one of the greatest players I've ever seen and someone I've had the pleasure of meeting on a number of occasions.

Only problem is that he is a Queenslander. A Banana Bender. A Cane Toad. They are never beaten in gametime. Its always the ref, the union, the opposition crowd, the media, the IRB, the conditions, the timing, etc etc.

Suck it up, Hoz.

A lot of people would say that about all Aussies, not just Queenslanders...

GerM

Zzippy wrote: »

A lot of people would say that about all Aussies, not just Queenslanders...

I would tend to agree. A chunk of my family are Aussies and they absolutely detest losing. There is zero banter about the game unless they win. If they do lose it's normally a matter of "so what, that game meant nothing, we win when it matters." I had the pleasure of being in the MCG last year when England skittled them out for 98 in The Ashes. The response was simply "Doesn't matter, test cricket is dead, we'll win the World Cup when it matters".

It's an ingrained mentality which makes them awful losers but born winners. They simply don't know how to lose for the most part.

SomeFool

Not quite down under but interesting all the same.

bamboozle

to be honest i dont get all the interest in what the oz media and ex players thought about the game, in fairness we went into the game playing sh1te, they went in as tri nations champions and strong favourites and no doubt their media reflected this.

its like if we were to lose to Italy our media and experts would have egg on their face.

maybe its just part of our national mentality of we showed them.

all i care about is that we put in a similar performance against NZ in the final!

JustinDee

Zzippy wrote: »

A lot of people would say that about all Aussies, not just Queenslanders...

It must be the Irish connection because the average Paddy tends to be just as bad.
Some of the comments I see here and elsewhere following a loss are hilarious.

walshb

GerM wrote: »

I would tend to agree. A chunk of my family are Aussies and they absolutely detest losing. There is zero banter about the game unless they win. If they do lose it's normally a matter of "so what, that game meant nothing, we win when it matters." I had the pleasure of being in the MCG last year when England skittled them out for 98 in The Ashes. The response was simply "Doesn't matter, test cricket is dead, we'll win the World Cup when it matters".

It's an ingrained mentality which makes them awful losers but born winners. They simply don't know how to lose for the most part.

And it makes them so bad to watch, bad losers, and even worse winners.

At least with Ireland we win good, and we lose good. We are just likable.

JustinDee

walshb wrote: »

At least with Ireland we win good, and we lose good. We are just likable.

Where is this distinction qualified exactly?
We win good and lose good? Lol

simonmln

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Funny, on watching the game a second time, I figure the Irish went wide as often as the Aussies, albeit not with the same pace. The idea that we stuffed the ball up the jumper is nonsense.

Where did you see the game again? Cant find it!

RuggieBear

Posts deleted. Please do not mention/link torrents sites.

Monty Burnz

RuggieBear wrote: »

Posts deleted. Please do not mention/link torrents sites.

I'm pretty confident the official World Cup website isn't up to anything or doing anything illegal when they provide streamable replays of all matches.

RuggieBear

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I'm pretty confident the official World Cup website isn't up to anything or doing anything illegal when they provide streamable replays of all matches.

you quoted the torrent sites in your post.

back on topic.

gavmcg92

I love watching all the snippets from FOX Australia on youtube and listening to their reactions.