Was in a pub last night....

flas

anyone else feel that the smoking ban has encouraged smoking on nights out? you will see people now smoking in smoking areas in nightclubs who would never have smoked before when they were legally allowed inside? people go to the smoking areas now because thats mostly where people can chat and not have to shout at each other!

For Forks Sake

flas wrote: »

anyone else feel that the smoking ban has encouraged smoking on nights out? you will see people now smoking in smoking areas in nightclubs who would never have smoked before when they were legally allowed inside? people go to the smoking areas now because thats mostly where people can chat and not have to shout at each other!

CANT HEAR YOU. WHAT??

clikityclak

It's happening in a good few pubs now, especially down the country. I can see why some publican are allowing it- keeping the regulard happy any way poosible because a lot of the pub are barely ticking over.
Smoking ban doesn't seem to be a major priority for the guards or whoever enforces it...

I'm a non smoker(for the past 4 months whoop whoop), but even when I was smoking I think I preferred to step outside. The shtink of smoke when your in a room full of it is nauseating.

CoolHat

headmaster wrote: »

He did go to another premises and had no problem. By doing what he did, he made sure that the law of the land was upheld by this arrogant publican and while some customers were also hostile towards him, the vast majority were delighted. In fact the publican concerned has sent a written apology to my friend and to the gardai, acknowledging his guilt in allowing people to smoke. Hope that answers your glib remark and maybe other law breakers will learn a lesson. In this area they certainly will

Hate that attitude. "uphold the law of the land" :rolleyes:

How dare that publican let people smoke is his pub. I'd report him myself! .. now off I go to download things I didnt buy and i might buy some cheap stolen goods in the market tomorrow.

Otis Driftwood

In my local the bar is divided into the lounge and the snug with the snug being the smoking area.I was in it last Monday and some randomers wandered into the lounge looking for soup and a sandwich only to be greeted by the owner standing in the snug looking out through the doorway with a cigarette in hand.Funny looks to say the least.He even got a write up in the pub spy thing in the Sunday World a few years ago and nothing was ever done about it.

I really dont know what the big deal is.

If people dont want to be in one of the few places that you can smoke in doors in then dont bloody go there.

headmaster

emmettogara wrote: »

Again, just to make this clear for you, I'm not offering any opinion on the righteousness of your friends actions, I'm just saying that the way he went about it was all wrong.

Actually, it was right and the proper legal way to do things. The publican was breaking the law, so were some arrogant customers. I take it that you have no problem with breaking the law? BTW, you are offering an opinion, you've got that wrong as well. Now, that's me finished with this thread now.

Dusty87

For Forks Sake wrote: »

CANT HEAR YOU. WHAT??

COME OUT TO THE SMOKING AREA, WE'L CHAT THERE!!!

lintdrummer

headmaster wrote: »

Actually, it was right and the proper legal way to do things. The publican was breaking the law, so were some arrogant customers. I take it that you have no problem with breaking the law? BTW, you are offering an opinion, you've got that wrong as well. Now, that's me finished with this thread now.

Well done, you've misread my clearly stated post again, made assertions about an opinion I didn't offer and are now running away to avoid acknowledging your mistake.

This is the last time I'm going to tell you this whether you read it or not:

I am not offering an opinion on whether what your friend did was right or wrong, I never did offer such an opinion so it is impossible that I "got that wrong aswell".

How clear can I make this? I'll type in bold so that you might read it this time... The way in which he went about it was wrong. He should have left and then made a complaint if he felt it necessary, rather than standing there, mobile in hand, calling the gardai for everyone to see.

johnners2981

Shame on all you smokers, going around killing everyone.... with your smoking

johnners2981

emmettogara wrote: »

Well done, you've misread my clearly stated post again, made assertions about an opinion I didn't offer and are now running away to avoid acknowledging your mistake.

This is the last time I'm going to tell you this whether you read it or not:

I am not offering an opinion on whether what your friend did was right or wrong, I never did offer such an opinion so it is impossible that I "got that wrong aswell".

How clear can I make this? I'll type in bold so that you might read it this time... The way in which he went about it was wrong. He should have left and then made a complaint if he felt it necessary, rather than standing there, mobile in hand, calling the gardai for everyone to see.

The bit in bold is an opinion, your opinion. How can you not understand that??? Well done you.

baldbear

headmaster wrote: »

Just last week in the Galway area, a friend of mine went into the town for a couple of pints (Sat night), people were openly smoking inside, he asked the owner to stop the people smoking, owner told him to fcuk off. My friend called the guards on his mobile from inside the pub and was manhandled in a very severe manner. The guards arrived, found people smoking on the premises, closed the doors back and front, took all the smokers names, took the owner aside for at least a half an hour and eventually closed the premises and told everyone to leave. A court case is next for this law breaking businessman. My friend is a male nurse which makes him an employee of the HSE, but this never came up at any stage in calling out the guards or when they arrived.

You're friend should have more sense seeing as he works in a hospital. He should know all about prioritising.

On a Saturday night, the busiest night for gaurds in Galway he rang them to sort out a few people having a ciggie. Jesus christ.

lintdrummer

johnners2981 wrote: »

The bit in bold is an opinion, your opinion. How can you not understand that??? Well done you.

God, it's like banging your head off a brick wall in here. Headmaster maintained that I had formed an opinion on whether or not what his friend did was right or wrong when in fact I was pointing out that the way he went about the whole situation was arseholeish.

Of course I have an opinion johnners, just not the opinion that headmaster keeps telling me I do.

Oh, and thanks very much for the "well done you", a little appreciation can make a lads day!

johnners2981

emmettogara wrote: »

God, it's like banging your head off a brick wall in here. Headmaster maintained that I had formed an opinion on whether or not what his friend did was right or wrong when in fact I was pointing out that the way he went about the whole situation was arseholeish.

Of course I have an opinion johnners, just not the opinion that headmaster keeps telling me I do.

Oh, and thanks very much for the "well done you", a little appreciation can make a lads day!

Your very welcome:) Now you and headmaster be nice, ok

Fulton Crown

cichlid child wrote: »

It sounds like a regular’s pub. Were regulars go for their pint and (smoke) were they all know the rules.
If you did not like it just leave stop bitching about it and I certainly would not report it.
edit: I am a nonsmoker

Of course not .....turn the blind eye....regulars pub...nod nod wink wink.

Vote for fianna fail do you ?

Hmmmmmm ?

Wolfe Tone

Dave! wrote: »

It's mad how a law can have such a strong effect on public opinion! Pubs used to be smoke-filled and most people didn't care, just accepted it as a given. Now in a few short years smoking indoors is "disgusting"! It used to be acceptable to have a couple of pints and drive home, now it's abhorrent, and most people would describe it as reckless endangerment at the very least. People used to absent-mindedly throw rubbish on the ground, now I think most people get pangs of conscience if we drop so much as a lollipop stick on the ground! Cigarette butts don't seem to have worked their way into the consciousness as 'litter' just yet, I'm sure they will though.

I think the laws and government advertising campaigns preceeded the shift in popular opinion with all those issues. Maybe with the exception of litter.



I'm all for the smoking ban in general, can't say I'd get too worked up if I walked into a smoking bar though.

Well, smoking in general is disgusting.

headmaster

headmaster wrote: »

Just last week in the Galway area, a friend of mine went into the town for a couple of pints (Sat night), people were openly smoking inside, he asked the owner to stop the people smoking, owner told him to fcuk off. My friend called the guards on his mobile from inside the pub and was manhandled in a very severe manner. The guards arrived, found people smoking on the premises, closed the doors back and front, took all the smokers names, took the owner aside for at least a half an hour and eventually closed the premises and told everyone to leave. A court case is next for this law breaking businessman. My friend is a male nurse which makes him an employee of the HSE, but this never came up at any stage in calling out the guards or when they arrived.

How anyone can go on a night out to enjoy themselves and end up doing that is beyond me.. He sounds like a dry bitter man.

headmaster

headmaster wrote: »

Just last week in the Galway area, a friend of mine went into the town for a couple of pints (Sat night), people were openly smoking inside, he asked the owner to stop the people smoking, owner told him to fcuk off. My friend called the guards on his mobile from inside the pub and was manhandled in a very severe manner. The guards arrived, found people smoking on the premises, closed the doors back and front, took all the smokers names, took the owner aside for at least a half an hour and eventually closed the premises and told everyone to leave. A court case is next for this law breaking businessman. My friend is a male nurse which makes him an employee of the HSE, but this never came up at any stage in calling out the guards or when they arrived.

What a legend your friend is!
Going out on a night out and would actually bother to report this instead of trying to pull a woman.

Your friend sounds like an absolute bell end and so do you, I hope he got a good kicking you ****ing geek!
boards.ie geek of the year award right here, enjoy your call of duty tournament.

Your friend is a male nurse, says it all really. Its people like you that ruin this country.

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Mickey H

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks like we're only a few posts away from Godwin's Law.

Ooooh! People who smoke in pubs are all Nazis. :rolleyes:

On a more serious note, the people that complain about after hours smoking are the same people that are ordering beers at 1 AM and still on the premises at 1.30 AM. AFAIK, the law states that on a Saturday night, bar closes at 12.30 AM and premises must be vacated by 01.00 AM.

So, with this in mind, smoking in pub and breaking the law = bad, but drinking after hours and breaking the law = good? I'm just wondering are we allowed choose what laws we want to obey now?

flanum

waaay too many high horses in this thread.

gavmcg92

mr.wiggle wrote: »

then I reckon this is a legally binding verbal contract !?

A verbal contract is not legally binding if it involves an illegal activity.

sdanseo

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

I think that pubs should be allowed get a special licence to allow smoking inside, so long as it's clearly advertised on the outside.

Makes no sense, it's a ban on smoking in the workplace. Nothing to do with the customers.

gavmcg92

Mousey- wrote: »

The customers/staff know what is happening and willingly place themselves there.

In this day and age where jobs are non-existent, why should an employee expose themselves to toxic chemicals in order to just make a living.

I'm a college student that is struggling to pay the ever-increasing registration fees each year. I had to hold down a position this summer in an establishment in town that treated their staff like sh1t and payed us not more than 30 cent over the minimum wage. I did not have the ability to leave that job and as a result was forced to work day in day out while being painfully upset.

I hope, for the love of god, that there is no-one in that same position, working for the bar that OP is talking about.

astonaidan

I was in a pub where they close the door at 12, Then everyone who stayed started smoking, I wasnt shocked as we were in the countryside, So as a non smoker, I started doing a subtle cough for the crack to which I was quickly told to feck off by the barman, I nearly died laughing at him.

LH Pathe

fact is, people smoke and you may encounter it from time to time. difference is it's your choice whether you want to stay or go. at least you have the option. No point demonizing these people as it was social norm for the majority of their life - only demon is this relatively new phenomenon in their face, making a fuss about it.

FrostyJack

For people who think it is ok for worker to put up with 2nd hand smoke and say they should leave if they don't like and in the same wheezy breath say that the smoking ban is killing the lively hood of the landlords, you's are hypocrites. If the barman can't get people in because they aren't allowed smoke he should get a new job.
And for those saying complaining about the nanny state and how people have become sheep because they can't stand being around smoke, remember you were the original sheep by starting smoking in the first place. No one starts smoking because they don't have enough nicotine or smoke in their system, it's mainly to do with peer pressure or the will to seem "cool" i.e. sheep.
The "good aul days" of smoking in the pub consisted of bellends burning holes in your clothes while they waved their hands around and waking up the next morning stinking of manky smoke. You can have them, I'm happy being able to breath and only smell stale beer. End rant.

LH Pathe

That there was a self designated smoking pub by right of being off the beaten track and in a time warp. Cherish it.

homerjay2005

alot of pubs with older customers allow this.

my local pub in the countryside allows smoking all the time, especially when they are closed and theres a lock in happening!

cock robin

A friend of mine lives in Holland where it is equally illegal to smoke in pubs. Although you can smoke weed in coffeshops :rolleyes: However his local allows patrons to smoke while supping their favourite libation as long as they pay two euro for each visit. This covers the fine should they be rumbled and they have been. I think he said its was six thousand yo yo's of a fine. Now this may seem odd but according to him it works as most people who go there now are smokers and the non smokers avoid the place. The local police don't give a **** as long as no one complains.

Blatter

There's some amount of absolute tits in this thread.

As the OP, I was never moaning about the pub nor did I ever say I was giving consideration to reporting the pub. I was simply stating my disbelief that this particular pub allowed smoking indoors, as it would be so easy for anyone to report them. This is not a country pub in the back arse of nowhere, this is a pub 2 mins walk from the centre of the biggest inland town in Ireland, Clonmel.

But I've noticed this trend on boards, there will always be a certain amount of posters who will look at what you said and they will look for an angle that will suit themselves and have a pop at the OP as it gives them an opportunity to the get upon their high horse.

Clowns.