Annoying traits of radio presenters.....

mike65

This is not really radio specific but nonetheless - when did media presenters of whatever type start to make themselves part of the subject question? Once upon a time a discussion would take the shape of a question posed to an expert or correspondent as follows

"What are the prospects for peace after this development?"

Which has now become

"What do we think the chances are for peace after this development?"

Even 5 years ago this "we" business was rarely heard, now it's pretty much de rigueur.

NIMAN

mike65 wrote: »

This is not really radio specific but nonetheless - when did media presenters of whatever type start to make themselves part of the subject question? Once upon a time a discussion would take the shape of a question posed to an expert or correspondent as follows

"What are the prospects for peace after this development?"

Which has now become

"What do we think the chances are for peace after this development?"

Even 5 years ago this "we" business was rarely heard, now it's pretty much de rigueur.

Don't forget that after they ask the expert what they think the chances of peace are, and he leaves, they then ask us, Joe Idiot in the public, to text in and tell them what we think!

I hate this whole idea of asking every Tom, Dick and Harrys opinion. You only have to listen to the likes of LiveLine to realise the world is full of tubes whose opinion should never be taken on board.

Bodhran

Broadcasters who can't pronounce the word "sixth" (6th). George Hamilton, among others, pronounces it "sickth".

Wise Old Elf

I find it really annoying when presenters deliberately include "dead air" in their show. Ray Foley is particularly guilty of this, at least 5-10 seconds where they say nothing and you have the stupid dancey music in the background. Say something FFS, it's what you're getting paid for!

I also find Ian Dempsey a bit annoying, although I can't quite put my finger on exactly why, although one particular time really bugged me. Chris Cornell (Soundgarden) had done a Bond theme, Dempsey played it and started ranting about how bad it was and anyway, who was Chris Cornell. A texter sent in a snotty text about Soundgarden, etc and Dempsey got on his high horse about how the texter should enlighten us all with his superior musical knowledge. In fairness, I would expect a DJ on the scene for as long as Dempsey to at least have heard of Cornell and Soundgarden and not get so thick with texters.

MJ23

The Friday Obsession

Will Leahy is terrible for this.
"its almost Friday, Friday is here"

Shut up

NIMAN

Sorry to repeat myself but Des Cahill on Morning Ireland at around 8:30am today was awful. How can a man that has needed to blow out his nose for 20yrs still be getting to read out stuff on the radio? He always sounds so bunged up and nasal.

RTE, please pay for the operation to have his sinuses done, or whatever he needs. He is awful to listen to.

tommyboy2222

Fionn Davenport on Davenport After Dark on Newstalk.

He thinks he is cutting edge because gasp , he talks about SEX on his radio show! It's so naff!

Is it the 1990s again ??

goose2005

Bodhran wrote: »

Broadcasters who can't pronounce the word "sixth" (6th). George Hamilton, among others, pronounces it "sickth".

Jeremy Paxman always says "sisth" on University Challenge as well...

mike65

Witch witch witch, why can't the witch be dead?

mike65

I dunno if Coopeman reads this thread but I've noticed that "witch" is now which and "width" is now with. If he can get "trew" to become through I reckon he'll have done well!

NIMAN

Matt Cooper,

"and here's XXXX witch the news".

mike65

The guy who does the Sunday Business Show on Today FM - a sharp intake of breath free with every sentence.

heybaby

mike65 wrote: »

The guy who does the Sunday Business Show on Today FM - a sharp intake of breath free with every sentence.

Easily fixed, he just needs to slow down with his delivery and move away from the microphone, his producer really should be telling him to do so.

bbability

heybaby wrote: »

Easily fixed, he just needs to slow down with his delivery and move away from the microphone, his producer really should be telling him to do so.

You do know I agree with your point on the aircheck debate but what do you do with a presenter like the one on Shannonside last Friday morning who had a grand total of 17 "eh's" in his final link on the breakfast show. Now i may have lost count but it just caught my attention as i scanned the dial. I don't think I hear that type of poor presentation on some of the more established community/hospital stations. It was awful.

heybaby

bbability wrote: »

You do know I agree with your point on the aircheck debate but what do you do with a presenter like the one on Shannonside last Friday morning who had a grand total of 17 "eh's" in his final link on the breakfast show. Now i may have lost count but it just caught my attention as i scanned the dial. I don't think I hear that type of poor presentation on some of the more established community/hospital stations. It was awful.

Wow 17 in one link !!??? Now thats alot but I recall about four years ago listening to Ben Murray on 'its your call' on FM104 and he at the time was guilty of the exact same thing, loads of eh's ums and aw's per link, now he has improved massively and Id say thats because he was pulled up on it and instructed to prep links. If you prep a link, it has a beginning, a middle and most importantly an end, you have less chance of stumbling, less chance of eh's and less repetition and your link has a purpose.

I agree with your point about some community / hospital stations being superior in this regard but this could be down voluntary stations scripting links to give them help when delivering on air, whereas with commercial stations some presenters especially when not airchecked regularly tend to think they know it all, get sloppy , dont prep and the you have a litany of eh's ...

Ultimately its down to management. Stations spend so much time on selecting the correct music for their station yet so little time polishing the performance of the person who talks in between the songs, its vital. Now not everyone will like any given dj but the very least that dj can do is deliver tight clean links that dont pish the listener off.

Going Forward

heybaby wrote: »

Ultimately its down to management. Stations spend so much time on selecting the correct music for their station yet so little time polishing the performance of the person who talks in between the songs, its vital. Now not everyone will like any given dj but the very least that dj can do is deliver tight clean links that dont pish the listener off.

I have often wondered just how much management actually focus on the quality of presentation and music selection as opposed to how advertising sales are going coupled with squeezing as many ads per hour into the schedule.

On Beat FM one of my locals, little is paid to anything as far as I can see, but they have no competition in the area regarding age group targets, so anything goes, as long as its aping 'Dublin' DJs.

Similarly SER has certain woeful presenters and newsreaders who genuinely cant read, yet they have great listnership figures.

Foreign news stories present particular challenges!!

fussyonion

Jeremy Dixon feigning stupidity by pretending he doesn't know the name of a song and asking people to text in with the answer.
You're sat in front of a computer, Jeremy, GOOGLE IT.
Then you have the gobsheens who ring up to ANSWER HIS QUESTION and so I don't know who's worse.

Adrian Kennedy repeating himself over and over and over when talking about a phone in competition.

E.G "Text the word GIG, that's G.I.G to 53104 and you could win tickets to see (insert band name)..once again text the word GIG, that's G.I.G to 53104..I'll be calling someone back tonight so you've got just over and hour to text in..Once again, text GIG, that's G.I.G to 53104"

WE GET IT. WE'RE NOT STUPID. WE KNOW HOW TO SPELL THE WORD "GIG" AND YOU'VE SAID IT ABOUT FIVE TIMES IN TEN SECONDS. STOP BEING MORONIC."

Bard

fussyonion wrote: »

Jeremy Dixon feigning stupidity by pretending he doesn't know the name of a song and asking people to text in with the answer.
You're sat in front of a computer, Jeremy, GOOGLE IT.
Then you have the gobsheens who ring up to ANSWER HIS QUESTION and so I don't know who's worse.

In fairness, it IS a *phone* show... this kind of simple little stunt is a standard ploy to get people in the mood for texting/phoning. What's the point of him GOOGLING IT when he can just get the listeners involved and maybe get a conversation going?

Adrian Kennedy repeating himself over and over and over when talking about a phone in competition.

E.G "Text the word GIG, that's G.I.G to 53104 and you could win tickets to see (insert band name)..once again text the word GIG, that's G.I.G to 53104..I'll be calling someone back tonight so you've got just over and hour to text in..Once again, text GIG, that's G.I.G to 53104"

WE GET IT. WE'RE NOT STUPID. WE KNOW HOW TO SPELL THE WORD "GIG" AND YOU'VE SAID IT ABOUT FIVE TIMES IN TEN SECONDS. STOP BEING MORONIC."

This, again, is pretty standard and not exclusive to Adrian.

It's just making sure that the message gets through to the listener. YOU may not be stupid yourself, YOU may have gotten the message, but no matter how clear it's made, there are still SO many people who get it wrong in their text and pay for the pleasure (at 20c a text!).

While you should obviously never talk down to them, you should also never underestimate the potentially limitless extent of the stupidity of the public and always make things as clear as possible!

I've been on the receiving end of the texts as a presenter & producer and you'd honestly be surprised how many people, for example, get the keyword wrong (.e.g.: put WIN or COMPETITION at the start instead of GIG), spell the keyword wrong (yes, it happens ALL the time, no matter how simple a keyword you've used), put the keyword in quotes, just leave out the keyword, put the text number into the actual text at the start, etc. etc. etc. - all of which means they DON'T get entered into the competition but still get charged for the text... so yes, it's important to be as clear as possible to try to ensure that the number of morons falling through the cracks is reduced as much as possible!

Personally, my pet peeve on radio at the moment is when a presenter has ideas far above themselves and an unwarranted over-inflated ego. I could name a couple of examples, but I'd rather not as I know them personally. Tone it down, folks... your personality is important - sure, but it's not all about you - it's about your listeners/contributors/callers/the music. Get on with the business of entertaining us!

essdee

What annoys me is the way Gavin Jennings says "Morning Ireland" as if he's speaking to someone called Ireland. It happens when he speaks the two words alone (not when he says "You're listening to Morning Ireland" or "Welcome back to Morning Ireland"). He stresses the first syllable of Morning. It comes across to me as grumpy and a bit pretentious. The programme might have a big audience, but by no stretch of the imagination is he speaking to "Ireland." None of the other presenters on the programme have this affectation.

Has anyone else noticed it?

Going Forward

essdee wrote: »

What annoys me is the way Gavin Jennings says "Morning Ireland" as if he's speaking to someone called Ireland. It happens when he speaks the two words alone (not when he says "You're listening to Morning Ireland" or "Welcome back to Morning Ireland"). He stresses the first syllable of Morning. It comes across to me as grumpy and a bit pretentious. The programme might have a big audience, but by no stretch of the imagination is he speaking to Ireland. None of the other presenters on the programme have this affectation.

Has anyone else noticed it?

Yes i have, but undecided as to whether it annoys me or not.
A bit like Good Morning America I suppose.

Yes, it is a bit annoying alright!!

downonthefarm

sean moncrief when he goes mmmmm

stop animal cruelty

sinead desmond on ireland am ...."tuewitter" "tuewenty tuewo" lm prob spelling it wrong but she cant pronounce words beginning with "tw" have to put her on mute sometimes !

LynnGrace

NIMAN wrote: »

Matt Cooper,

"and here's XXXX witch the news".

....the nooooze...I gave up listening to Matt Cooper some years ago. That was one of the things that used to irritate me about him, 'saherday' was another.

Going Forward

downonthefarm wrote: »

sean moncrief when he goes mmmmm

Not forgetting when he goes ahhh emm emmm ahhhemmmm.

delaad

Bobby Kerr. when he goes, "...............

djh2009

Lapin wrote: »

Here are some of mine.....


Chris Donoghue (Newstalk) - His sharp use of the letter T.

Although i fully agree with you on that one, for some reason he doesn't pronounce the "T" in the word twenty. The word to him has become "twenny".
A most annoying trait from a most annoying little scroat !!

Black Suir

Cat noises made by WLR's Karen Tomkins are very annoying. So do are the little segments that she and Timmy do where they pretend to be someone else, A Russian Gym Instructor and a woman called Tiffany this morning.

Evan DietrichSmith

There's a lad Conor Brophy who I think does the business news on RTE.

Pronounces the letter 'o' as 'u' as in 'money' being pronounced as ' munny'

and government being called 'guvernment'.

Very annoying as 'utherwoise' he is quite good.

Also ,not Conor now but where did this 'Koe-erk' pronouncitation for 'Cork' spring from?

And finally!

Aoife Carragher AA Roadwatch, reduces her voice to one of the harshest rasps I have ever heard when she signs off after the bulletin.

I'd say she could burn through a steel door with it.!!

Neeson

Evan DietrichSmith wrote: »

There's a lad Conor Brophy who I think does the business news on RTE.

Pronounces the letter 'o' as 'u' as in 'money' being pronounced as ' munny'

and government being called 'guvernment'.

Very annoying as 'utherwoise' he is quite good!

Isn't money pronounced munny? Never heard anyone say monny or mone-ee

reg114

Evan DietrichSmith wrote: »

pronouncitation
.!!

Enlighten me, pronouncitation? One man's imperfect diction is another's imperfect spelling.

Evan DietrichSmith

Neeson wrote: »

Isn't money pronounced munny? Never heard anyone say monny or mone-ee

Heh heh , you're kidding right?

Sorry bout the typo on pronunciation

Neeson

Evan DietrichSmith wrote: »

Heh heh , you're kidding right?

Sorry bout the typo on pronunciation

Bit how is it pronounced? Monny?
Mone-ee

Evan DietrichSmith

Neeson wrote: »

Bit how is it pronounced? Monny?
Mone-ee

Exactly .. He's on now calling 'months' 'munths'

Standard and Poors being the uuther two...


Terrible stuff

Neeson

I always heard it as munny. Anything else would sound strange and drawn out.

MONNAY
MONY

Evan DietrichSmith

Neeson wrote: »

I always heard it as munny. Anything else would sound strange and drawn out.

MONNAY
MONY

Don't be acting the gombeen man.

I haven't time for that.

Neeson

Evan DietrichSmith wrote: »

Don't be acting the gombeen man.

I haven't time for that.

I'm not taking the piss I'm actually serious. I checked a video on YouTube there and it showed the American English pron. and it was munny sounding. Might be different here though? Spell out phonetically how it's meant to be because I have been wrong all the time the same as Conor!

Neeson

Maybe the problem is that he stresses the wrong syllable?

Fuzzy Clam

Evan DietrichSmith wrote: »

Exactly .. He's on now calling 'months' 'munths'

Standard and Poors being the uuther two...


Terrible stuff

Munth is correct as is Muny.

Evan DietrichSmith

Fuzzy Clam wrote: »

Munth is correct as is Muny.

Sorry lads won't play your game.

Fuzzy Clam

Evan DietrichSmith wrote: »

Sorry lads won't play your game.

No games. Its pronounced with a U, unlike troll which is pronounced Trol.

Radio is for life

Evan DietrichSmith wrote: »

There's a lad Conor Brophy who I think does the business news on RTE.

Pronounces the letter 'o' as 'u' as in 'money' being pronounced as ' munny'

and government being called 'guvernment'.

Very annoying as 'utherwoise' he is quite good.

Also ,not Conor now but where did this 'Koe-erk' pronouncitation for 'Cork' spring from?

And finally!

Aoife Carragher AA Roadwatch, reduces her voice to one of the harshest rasps I have ever heard when she signs off after the bulletin.

I'd say she could burn through a steel door with it.!!

In think you may need to go back to school with a comment like that or should I pronounce that as sc-ooo-ll

Should I refer to you as numpty or a numbty.

LordSutch

Pat Kenny - Portoogal, In Studio, Parse . . .
Dunphy sluring, sounding pissed, and fighting.
Matt Cooper (too many mangled words to list).
Marian Finucane swallowing & chocking.
George Hook & his daily nasal blockage.
Tara Duggan (Newstalk News) depressing

shockwave

LordSutch wrote: »

Pat Kenny - Portoogal, In Studio, Parse . . .
Dunphy sluring, sounding pissed, and fighting.
Matt Cooper (too many mangled words to list).
Marian Finucane swallowing & chocking.
George Hook & his daily nasal blockage.
Tara Duggan (Newstalk News) depressing

You forgot Ray Darcys sighing

jmcc

Marty Whelan - just being on Lyric FM and playing MOR schlock and then humming along to it without muting the mic.

Regards...jmcc

fussyonion

There's always a clip being played on Will Leahy's show of a man saying "Very happy, very happy" in a strong culchie accent.
It's been going on YEARS now and it does my head in.

newmug

Cunnur Hnt, Ur-tee-eee news


That man cannot pronounce anything with an O without substituting it for a U. Someone take the spud out of that gob****es mouth.


I dunno how many times I rang RTE to complain about him.






(Well, actually I do. 4 times. 4.)

Evan DietrichSmith

newmug wrote: »

Cunnur Hnt, Ur-tee-eee news


That man cannot pronounce anything with an O without substituting it for a U. Someone take the spud out of that gob****es mouth.


I dunno how many times I rang RTE to complain about him.







(Well, actually I do. 4 times. 4.)

Well done, some of us have standards.

Let me guess, you got no response?

Radio5

" slopping out is a way a life for prisoners in Cork prison" , so said Jenny O'Sullivan on the 6pm Radio news last week.

MJ23

Will Leahy's shouty voice. And his never ending countdown to Friday.
Eejit.

Evan DietrichSmith

MJ23 wrote: »

Will Leahy's shouty voice. And his never ending countdown to Friday.
Eejit.

With you on that one, this countdown to the weekend is a bit hackneyed now.