Fifa Ultimate team 12 web app released!

Copper_pipe

Ya they christmas day market will be interesting

Copper_pipe

First person to PM me will get one of my best trading tips for FREE.

jamescd

Care to share this tip of yours with everyone else ?

Charlie Haughy

jamescd wrote: »

Apparently the market is gonna crash after christmas. I bought the hype and started selling off my players lol

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7066/futh.jpg

Hate the bloody 5% tax. Gonna lose upwards of 35k if I manage to sell Ronaldo.

Why would the market crash? Is it because of an influx of all new players who get the game on christmas day?

jamescd

Yup. More players and maybe all the little kiddies will be getting Microsoft Points from santy So in short, a lot more packs will be opened and the market will be flooded with players. That's the theory anyway lol

Sabre0001

Daily gifts are back. Hurry before EA goes grinch-like once again!

Ferris_Bueller

Guys I'm new to FIFA 12 and this ultimate team. Have never used it before the other day and so far have only played 8 games. I don't really understand it though. Seemed pretty simple to me, play matches, earn points, buy better players. Signed Jermaine Defoe there today. But then there are loads of other things, manager, coaches, training etc. how important are all of these things and what do they improve? Also, what is more important to have, a good team or a high chemistry? Some guy absolutely hammered me online there and had 100% chemistry, but that could be just coincidence!

Also, I saw a screenshot up the page of players being bought for like 13,000 coins :O what the hell, Defoe only cost me about 700 and he is rated 81, how can players be valued at a couple of thousand?

If someone could give me the low down it would be hugely appreciated!

Knex*

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Guys I'm new to FIFA 12 and this ultimate team. Have never used it before the other day and so far have only played 8 games. I don't really understand it though. Seemed pretty simple to me, play matches, earn points, buy better players. Signed Jermaine Defoe there today. But then there are loads of other things, manager, coaches, training etc. how important are all of these things and what do they improve? Also, what is more important to have, a good team or a high chemistry? Some guy absolutely hammered me online there and had 100% chemistry, but that could be just coincidence!

Also, I saw a screenshot up the page of players being bought for like 13,000 coins :O what the hell, Defoe only cost me about 700 and he is rated 81, how can players be valued at a couple of thousand?

If someone could give me the low down it would be hugely appreciated!

Good chemistry is the most important I would say. I'll throw out a couple of tips and hopefully others will add some more.

I'll talk mainly about chemistry and how it improves in relation to players.

- Formation. Each player has a preferred formation and ideally you should have a squad of all 4-4-2 for example if you are playing 4-4-2 and so on.
Having a manager for this formation improves the chemistry of the team also.

However you can get away with slight variations to the formation. You can get good chemistry if say you have a CB with a 4-1-2-1-2 formation but you are playing 4-4-2 as that player is still playing in a back 4 rather than a back 3 or 5 etc.

-Nationality. Having players from same nationality boosts chemistry.

-League. Having players from same league boosts chemistry and this is usually what most players set out to do. Pick a league such as BPL, La Ligue, Seria A or whatever and gather a squad from that league. Players playing in same team will have an even higher chemistry rating.

You asked about prices and the best way of explaining it is supply and demand. Its a market, and the more people want something the more they will pay for it. It all ties down to people wanting to build their squad like I mentioned above. The Premier League for example is one of the more inflated markets with players going for high prices in comparison to similar counterparts in say the German League.

They're are plenty of ways of making money through trading in FUT so have a look on Youtube and I think Copper Pipe, who posts in this thread, has a link to his blog on it somewhere.

jamescd

Adding to what Knex said, individual chemistry is more important. Having 100 team chemistry is good, but ideally you'd want to have 9 chemistry between all your players. If you want to achieve this, you'll have to buy players in the right formation or apply formation cards.

As for your other questions, training cards improve your player's attributes for one game only. Obviously a +15 pace card will add 15 pace to the player that you use it on for the next game. Coaches give you a bonus when you use training cards. If you have a coach that says for example "Pace +15%" stored in your club, then when you use a +15 pace card on a player, he will receive +17 pace instead of +15 because of the 15% bonus. If you don't use training cards, then you don't need to buy coaches.

If you think 13,000 coins is a lot, then you have a long way to go Messi cost me 570,000. I have hundreds of players that I don't use which I got from opening packs. PM me if you want some, I'll help you get started.

Ferris_Bueller

Thanks a million lads. Appreciate the help and the advice! No wonder things were going so pear shaped then, got battered by a lad 6-1 in my last game too, he had 100% team chemistry and I felt like my players could not get into the game whatsoever.

Might take you up on that offer jamescd! Check your PMs :P

Copper_pipe

Il give u 10k if you are on xbox.

Axwell

Will gladly take any donations people have to offer too :P

Charlie Haughy

Any average premier league players going around for free as im trying to set up a prem league team, and they're really expensive!

jamescd

@ Charlie: I got loads of prem players which i don't need. Your on xbox right ?

@ Axwell : I'll sort ya out too

But it'll have to wait until I get home from work later :pac:

Sabre0001

Geez, I'll take stuff if it's going for free

To add, work on your defending - defence wins matches. Get into the habit of getting AI to pressure man with ball and take control of tracking the run yourself. The new defensive system takes a bit of practice, but it pays off!

In Ultimate Team, you can get away with more than in normal games (as a result of good chemistry) - expect some teams / players to try 35 yard shots.

Pace is incredibly important - possibly too important. Nesta, while a good defender, isn't the greatest buy in Ultimate Team - gets left for dead.

If I play you and you have a manager card that adds nothing to chemistry, it irks me. Get a manager in the right formation or nationality (ONLY in the cases of a singular national side).

Play the AI tournaments - gets you used to playing with your team, Ultimate Team and gets you coins. Can work on your chem here before taking it online...Plus they're less stressful 99% of the time.

I'd advise starting at Bronze and working your way up / starting over at silver to make a new team. Means you can get used to the game without Messi-Ronaldo Barca/Real supersquads. Also, there are INCREDIBLY good players in lower leagues.

If you want to make trade profit, learn some of the markets. Would advise against buying packs for the most part. Usually not worth it (but at the same time, you can strike it lucky).

To answer your question about chemistry vs good team - chemistry EVERY time. Has more of an impact at bronze and silver levels, but can still turn the tide at gold.

Copper_pipe

The tip I use the most to make coins is bid 250 on all gold players and discard for 300+ everytime. I have 234k now and a Premier league silver team

The Floyd p

Copper_pipe wrote: »

The tip I use the most to make coins is bid 250 on all gold players and discard for 300+ everytime. I have 234k now and a Premier league silver team

How much would you earn a day doing that?

Copper_pipe

The Floyd p wrote: »

How much would you earn a day doing that?

How many coins have you?

If my calculations are correct you get a return of 20% of what you put in

Knex*

I've started recently buying players say in a RW position but in a 4-4-2 formation or a 4-1-2-1-2 formation. Then buying RW-RM position card and boost the contract of the player as well. Can usually make a decent size profit in one sale with that method.

Depends on the player though and how their price differs between a 4-4-2 RM and a 4-4-2 RW and so on.

Charlie Haughy

jamescd wrote: »

@ Charlie: I got loads of prem players which i don't need. Your on xbox right ?

@ Axwell : I'll sort ya out too

But it'll have to wait until I get home from work later :pac:

Great stuff man! :pac: Ill pm you about it, cheers again! Yeah im on xbox.

Charlie Haughy

Sabre0001 wrote: »

Geez, I'll take stuff if it's going for free

To add, work on your defending - defence wins matches. Get into the habit of getting AI to pressure man with ball and take control of tracking the run yourself. The new defensive system takes a bit of practice, but it pays off!

In Ultimate Team, you can get away with more than in normal games (as a result of good chemistry) - expect some teams / players to try 35 yard shots.

Pace is incredibly important - possibly too important. Nesta, while a good defender, isn't the greatest buy in Ultimate Team - gets left for dead.

If I play you and you have a manager card that adds nothing to chemistry, it irks me. Get a manager in the right formation or nationality (ONLY in the cases of a singular national side).

Play the AI tournaments - gets you used to playing with your team, Ultimate Team and gets you coins. Can work on your chem here before taking it online...Plus they're less stressful 99% of the time.

I'd advise starting at Bronze and working your way up / starting over at silver to make a new team. Means you can get used to the game without Messi-Ronaldo Barca/Real supersquads. Also, there are INCREDIBLY good players in lower leagues.

If you want to make trade profit, learn some of the markets. Would advise against buying packs for the most part. Usually not worth it (but at the same time, you can strike it lucky).

To answer your question about chemistry vs good team - chemistry EVERY time. Has more of an impact at bronze and silver levels, but can still turn the tide at gold.

Also, one thing a lot of people dont know about is, is to buy lots of Staff cards. They can make your team a fair bit better if you buy enough of them such as shooting ones, pace ones, speed ones etc.

They dont even expire which is great, just buy them, add to club and thats it.

Knex*

Charlie Haughy wrote: »

Also, one thing a lot of people dont know about is, is to buy lots of Staff cards. They can make your team a fair bit better if you buy enough of them such as shooting ones, pace ones, speed ones etc.

They dont even expire which is great, just buy them, add to club and thats it.

I thought they only effect attribute cards, healing, fitness and so on? Don't think they have a direct effect on the players at all tbh.

Charlie Haughy

Knex. wrote: »

I thought they only effect attribute cards, healing, fitness and so on? Don't think they have a direct effect on the players at all tbh.

Oh right maybe your right, I only found out about them a few days ago as I had never noticed them before, and a guy on a forum said they make every player on your teams shooting go up 10%, pace up 10% or 5% or whatever the cards are

Copper_pipe

If I were to organise an xbox tournament would people be interested. 1k entry

Sabre0001

Might give it a shot.

Knex*

Copper_pipe wrote: »

If I were to organise an xbox tournament would people be interested. 1k entry

Yeah definitely. Would it matter if my team was all Gold though and say, yours for example, was Silvers?

Copper_pipe

Nope open tournament so only one rule.

No performance enhancing cards. (Shooting +10)

Thank this post if interested.

Entry would be 1.1k because of 5% ea tax

Charlie Haughy

Whats the prize for the winner, runners up or whatever?

Copper_pipe

Charlie Haughy wrote: »

Whats the prize for the winner, runners up or whatever?

Il work that bit out after I get an idea of numbers . Id say winner gets 75% and runner up gets 25% of prize fund

Mr Blobby

i'd be interested in joining if its open for anyone ?
I had 10,000 left this morning and bought a pack with the coins and got david villa and vidic in the same pack

jamescd

Charlie Haughy wrote: »

Also, one thing a lot of people dont know about is, is to buy lots of Staff cards. They can make your team a fair bit better if you buy enough of them such as shooting ones, pace ones, speed ones etc.

They dont even expire which is great, just buy them, add to club and thats it.

Staff cards a.k.a. coaches won't add to a players attribute on their own. They only give a bonus when you use a training card on a player. For example if you use a +15 pace card on a player and you have a coach that gives "Pace +15%", then your player will get a boost of +17 pace (15 pace plus the 15% bonus) for the next game only. If you don't use any of the various training cards on a regular basis (shooting, pace, passing, defending, etc.), then you don't really need coaches.


Also, if this tournament idea takes off then I'll donate 100k coins or so to the prize fund

Copper_pipe

jamescd wrote: »

Charlie Haughy wrote: »

Also, one thing a lot of people dont know about is, is to buy lots of Staff cards. They can make your team a fair bit better if you buy enough of them such as shooting ones, pace ones, speed ones etc.

They dont even expire which is great, just buy them, add to club and thats it.

Staff cards a.k.a. coaches won't add to a players attribute on their own. They only give a bonus when you use a training card on a player. For example if you use a +15 pace card on a player and you have a coach that gives "Pace +15%", then your player will get a boost of +17 pace (15 pace plus the 15% bonus) for the next game only. If you don't use any of the various training cards on a regular basis (shooting, pace, passing, defending, etc.), then you don't really need coaches.


Also, if this tournament idea takes off then I'll donate 100k coins or so to the prize fund

Il add 10K

jamescd

Gave these players to Axwell since he asked nicely

Ashley Young
Gervinho
Essien
Clichy
Toure
Vermaelen
Glen Johnson
Joe Hart

And gave 15 or so shiny Premier League players to Charlie Haughy


Happy christmas :D

Copper_pipe

I will make up a spreadsheet for tourney later on

Knex*

jamescd wrote: »

Gave these players to Axwell since he asked nicely

Ashley Young
Gervinho
Essien
Clichy
Toure
Vermaelen
Glen Johnson
Joe Hart

And gave 15 or so shiny Premier League players to Charlie Haughy


Happy christmas :D

Wow, fair play man! How loaded are you exactly in FUT?

jamescd

Nothing much, just a couple of million :D:D

Copper_pipe

jamescd wrote: »

Nothing much, just a couple of million :D:D

Mind sharing a few tips

Knex*

jamescd wrote: »

Nothing much, just a couple of million :D:D

Jaysus, whenever I make 30,000 grand I spend it like and idiot and have to start from scratch again

jamescd

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Mind sharing a few tips

You probably know most of the money making tips so I'll give you the best one. Trade offer. What I do is offer some useless bronze player or whatever and the rest in coins. You'll be surprised how many people accept your offer even if it's way below market value. Last night I got two Messi's for 540k each, and sold them straight away for more than 600k each. Also got Gerrard for 118k and sold him for 155k. Iniesta bought for 185k and sold for 240k.

Just look for players within your price range, and put some trade offers in.

Copper_pipe

How did you make the coins to send the offers

T-b0n3

jamescd wrote: »

Gave these players to Axwell since he asked nicely

Ashley Young
Gervinho
Essien
Clichy
Toure
Vermaelen
Glen Johnson
Joe Hart

And gave 15 or so shiny Premier League players to Charlie Haughy


Happy christmas :D

Wow that was very generous! That's worth more than my whole team I reckon! Jealous!

The Floyd p

Any tips for improving my whopping 1,240 Coins?

jamescd

Copper_pipe wrote: »

How did you make the coins to send the offers

I did the 59th minute thing for a while. And just bid on players really that I thought were profitable. Made a couple hundred grand this way.

Then I started doing trade offers and never looked back. I just have a quick look at what's on auction, leave a trade offer and play a game or whatever. Much more enjoyable

Copper_pipe

jamescd wrote: »

Copper_pipe wrote: »

How did you make the coins to send the offers

I did the 59th minute thing for a while. And just bid on players really that I thought were profitable. Made a couple hundred grand this way.

Then I started doing trade offers and never looked back. I just have a quick look at what's on auction, leave a trade offer and play a game or whatever. Much more enjoyable

Gonna try that for a bit and see wat happens

jamescd

The Floyd p wrote: »

Any tips for improving my whopping 1,240 Coins?

Ask for donations ?

I'm sorry to say that I've forgotten what I did when I had less than 2k lol. All I remember is playing games, winning tournaments until I had like 30k or so. Then I started buying and selling, players, formation cards, healing cards, etc...

The Floyd p

I have assets which would put me up to about 7K I guess

I have a few players left from my Mexican silvers but 2 are injured

http://www.ea.com/uk/football/fifa-ultimate-team/show-off#ixvRBTWubcnp4

Just sold a Danny Graham for 400 coins more than I spent :cool:

Copper_pipe

The Floyd p wrote: »

I have assets which would put me up to about 7K I guess

I have a few players left from my Mexican silvers but 2 are injured

http://www.ea.com/uk/football/fifa-ultimate-team/show-off#ixvRBTWubcnp4

Just sold a Danny Graham for 400 coins more than I spent :cool:

Are you aware of 5% ea tax on sales on ultimate team

Axwell

Stick me down for the tournament if it goes ahead

jamescd

Have you finished off the team yet ? Recommend Chicharito, absolute beast. Cheap enough too

ConorBF1

Just created my Ultimate Team there! Looking forward to the journey ahead. :P

1) How important is chemistry?

2) Will an all EPL team have good chemistry even if they are varied nationality's and clubs?

Thanks.

Oh, and if anyone wants to donate any cards, I'd be greatful.