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Authenticity
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22-09-2011 9:47am#1Hi all,
quick question in relation to a couple of watches that are coming up for auction shortly and I'm a bit dubious about the authenticity of them. I have emailed yesterday the auction house asking whether they are "sold as seen" or do they do anything to determine authenticity before listing in their auctions?
I know there are fees and charges to go onto the estimates/actual final price but I'm still a bit cautious. Haven't heard anything back from the auction house yet.
1. Vintage Omega Seamaster (looks like no box or paperwork) Est €200-300
2. Omega Railmaster (again looks like ne box/paperwork) Est €300-400
3. Graham Chrono Fighter (looks to have some paperwork) Est €250-350
Have never bought this way before so looking for feedback if anybody else has. Am I covered in the event of buying something and it turns out to be a fake etc? I know there are some bloody good fakes out there but at least two of these are of a vintage when there wasn't so many around!0
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if they are genuine they are going very cheap...
Thanks Cyrus, that's what I thought too but will wait to hear back from the auctioneers. I guess it's not in their interest to sell fake/replica watches but I want to err on the side of caution.
If I recognise any of you at the auction trying to bid me up there'll be trouble
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Thanks Cyrus, that's what I thought too but will wait to hear back from the auctioneers. I guess it's not in their interest to sell fake/replica watches but I want to err on the side of caution.
If I recognise any of you at the auction trying to bid me up there'll be trouble
lol
i must say youve piqued my interest :P
there are some nice ladies rolexs there too
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Seems a bit fishy to me. They have a few older Tags on there for €350-€400, and then a far more desirable Mercedes-Benz SLR model for €150
Where do they get their suggested selling prices from? Are they based on their own appraisal, or on what the seller would like to achieve?0 -
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Anyone post a link?
Nothing to see here.. Move along now
It's O Reilly Auctioneers who have been around since 1948 so that's why I am a bit doubtful as to whether they would pass off fakes intentionally? I have mailed them but no response yet. Will post back if I hear back from them. Hands off the omegas right 0 -
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Hi all,
quick question in relation to a couple of watches that are coming up for auction shortly and I'm a bit dubious about the authenticity of them. I have emailed yesterday the auction house asking whether they are "sold as seen" or do they do anything to determine authenticity before listing in their auctions?
I know there are fees and charges to go onto the estimates/actual final price but I'm still a bit cautious. Haven't heard anything back from the auction house yet.
1. Vintage Omega Seamaster (looks like no box or paperwork) Est €200-300
2. Omega Railmaster (again looks like ne box/paperwork) Est €300-400
3. Graham Chrono Fighter (looks to have some paperwork) Est €250-350
Have never bought this way before so looking for feedback if anybody else has. Am I covered in the event of buying something and it turns out to be a fake etc? I know there are some bloody good fakes out there but at least two of these are of a vintage when there wasn't so many around!
HaHaHa Seriously? You have just made public - to a watch loving community and the lurkers - one of the best kept secrets in the secondhand watch/jewellery "underground", good luck with the estimates now.....you'll be competing with half the people reading this post
They are not experts there, sure they would spot the dodgy quartz Rolex, the newer watches and the newer 1:1 replicas would be much much harder to spot - even for authorized dealers, I suspect there might be more than a few slipping through, I would imagine 99% of the punters there wouldnt know the difference either.
If you do go to the auction make sure to leave the wife/girlfriend at home, I found that for every watch I bought for me I "was obliged" to buy her something shiney.....which usually meant that I could have bought mine at an AD ..NEW and saved money 0 -
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Yeah Marcus the thought had crossed my mind but sharing is caring
As long as I don't get outbid on one of those omegas (providing they are genuine) I'll be happy! I know at least three of you to see by the way so I'll be keeping my eyes peeled 0 -
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Yeah Marcus the thought had crossed my mind but sharing is caring
As long as I don't get outbid on one of those omegas (providing they are genuine) I'll be happy! I know at least three of you to see by the way so I'll be keeping my eyes peeled
Well, the first one should be fine, unless a franken.
The tells on the Railmaster are.....
There are 3 different "generations" of each of the Railmaster watches and each generation has its own flaws,
Fat Numbers
Happy Feet
Badly engraved rotor on display casebacks
Misspelling on caseback
Badly spaced text on caseback
Asian 18800 movements have a jerky sweep, not as obvious on small seconds hands.
"Swiss Made" missing from dial
Lume too green in daylight
Weak lume - common to ALL versions unless relumes, look for grainyness to lume in dim conditions
AR coating looks over tinted
Straps are good quality, but nowhere near Gen, unless replaced.
And be aware the 49mm is the BEST version of the Railmaster in the rep stakes.0 -
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