Guns N' Roses Discussion Thread

PTH2009 · 30-12-2016 2:45pm

Could be wrong but was it not around this time last year that the reunion rumours started becoming really strong ??

Itssoeasy · 30-12-2016 2:47pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Could be wrong but was it not around this time last year that the reunion rumours started becoming really strong ??

Yeah Christmas Day they posted a videoand after that it too off.

PTH2009 · 30-12-2016 4:42pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah Christmas Day they posted a videoand after that it too off.

people on the inside prob knew a lot earlier

The guessing really started after Slash done that interview in the summer of 2015 where he said himself and Axl are talking again

I think the Coachella headline slot got announced at the start of January this year and the warm up shows/US tour announcement followed a short time after

The reunion annoucement was rather tame tbh and could of potentially been made a bigger thing

Bonzo Delaney · 30-12-2016 5:03pm

Probably the best marketing stroke ever was to do a ,as low key publicity drive as possible let the hype market itself and it worked they grossed about $260 million this year just behind Bouncy Bouncy and Bruce springteen.

Lithium93_ · 30-12-2016 6:00pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Could be wrong but was it not around this time last year that the reunion rumours started becoming really strong ??

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah Christmas Day they posted a videoand after that it too off.

It was a year yesterday when it started gathering pace

PTH2009 wrote: »

people on the inside prob knew a lot earlier

The guessing really started after Slash done that interview in the summer of 2015 where he said himself and Axl are talking again

I think the Coachella headline slot got announced at the start of January this year and the warm up shows/US tour announcement followed a short time after

The reunion annoucement was rather tame tbh and could of potentially been made a bigger thing

If you believe it, Myles Kennedy, Todd Kerns, Frank Sidoris & Brent Fitz, the rest of Slash's band were told of rumblings about it 6 months before hand, so that would've been right after Slash mentioning in that interview that he & Axl were on talking again, their Coachella appearance was confirmed on January 4th 2016, which gave away that Slash & Duff would be rejoining.

gooner99 · 04-01-2017 11:37pm

Hi. Got my 3 gold circle tickets in the post. I am selling them as I changed to 2 VIP tickets instead. So selling these gold circle tickets off. Have you guys sold tickets before, where is the best place to sell them. Was thinking facebook or donedeal?

Frank Grimes · 05-01-2017 3:43pm

gooner99 wrote: »

Hi. Got my 3 gold circle tickets in the post. I am selling them as I changed to 2 VIP tickets instead. So selling these gold circle tickets off. Have you guys sold tickets before, where is the best place to sell them. Was thinking facebook or donedeal?

I always use Toutless whenever I need to sell a ticket.

Itssoeasy · 06-01-2017 8:55pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov4zNwkmo_Y

Itssoeasy · 06-01-2017 9:08pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=089oFQc7wuA

Itssoeasy · 06-01-2017 9:16pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSpW-oye8_k

It's obvious that the issues are still raw for axl here. How crazy is it that we've gotten from that moment to where they are the best of friends again.

Lithium93_ · 06-01-2017 9:50pm

Money can make the worst of enemies get along, though going by this past summer, that clearly isn't the situation between Slash & Axl now.

Itssoeasy · 06-01-2017 11:54pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Money can make the worst of enemies get along, though going by this past summer, that clearly isn't the situation between Slash & Axl now.

Which is great though. Axl and slash seem to have rekindled their friendship. I mean whatever was trashed out in the meeting in axls house was the same as a thunder storm after a humid few days.

Lithium93_ · 07-01-2017 12:03am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Which is great though. Axl and slash seem to have rekindled their friendship. I mean whatever was trashed out in the meeting in axls house was the same as a thunder storm after a humid few days.

Indeed, to have been a fly on the wall for those conversations, probably didn't get it all worked out in a day...

Now if only Slash & Duff and the rest of the band could maybe nudge Axl towards a recording studio and get around to new music.

Itssoeasy · 07-01-2017 1:13am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Which is great though. Axl and slash seem to have rekindled their friendship. I mean whatever was trashed out in the meeting in axls house was the same as a thunder storm after a humid few days.

Indeed, to have been a fly on the wall for those conversations, probably didn't get it all worked out in a day...

Now if only Slash & Duff and the rest of the band could maybe nudge Axl towards a recording studio and get around to new music.

No twenty years of ****e didn't but enough to move forward with a renunion did though.

Well one step at a time. I mean Chinese democracy was meant to be finished in 2001 or there abouts and it took seven more years to get a physical copy of it.

I think duff has to take a huge amount of credit here. I'm happy Steven has had a chance to play with the other three as it really was the one thing keeping him going and he can obviously still play going on recent videos.

I think Mellisa could be a god send for axl. Watching some of the video of the end of the shows and her and axl seem to get on with her. And she is a very talented young women.

Bonzo Delaney · 07-01-2017 7:44pm

Just heard Sco'm on the wireless there, hard to believe its nearly 30years since I first heard that song and it still sounds as fresh and relevant today as to when I heard it first as a gobsmacked 11year old realising for the first time this is how rock n roll music should sound like.
For me Appetite for destruction is the definitive rock album and many years later after reading in depth of the going ons during its recording . It still amazes me it was ever made at all.
I found the illusion albums a bit of a let down great songs and all but just lacked the punch of Appetite whether it was a lack of Steve Adler or the that lightening in a bottle spark was a one off deal with the devil
Which sort of brings me to my question I've given Chinese Democracy every chance I can and I still dont get it. I'm not saying its crap Its just not GNR to me
The live Duff &Slash versions of Better and Chin Dem make more sense to me somehow.
I was wondering has anyone here becone a fan of gnr from the other side I mean got introduced to Gnr through Chinese Democracy
And what did they make of Appetite when they got to hear it as I find the two albums a world apart from each other.

Lex Luthor · 07-01-2017 8:42pm

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

Just heard Sco'm on the wireless there, hard to believe its nearly 30years since I first heard that song and it still sounds as fresh and relevant today as to when I heard it first as a gobsmacked 11year old realising for the first time this is how rock n roll music should sound like.
For me Appetite for destruction is the definitive rock album and many years later after reading in depth of the going ons during its recording . It still amazes me it was ever made at all.
I found the illusion albums a bit of a let down great songs and all but just lacked the punch of Appetite whether it was a lack of Steve Adler or the that lightening in a bottle spark was a one off deal with the devil
Which sort of brings me to my question I've given Chinese Democracy every chance I can and I still dont get it. I'm not saying its crap Its just not GNR to me
The live Duff &Slash versions of Better and Chin Dem make more sense to me somehow.
I was wondering has anyone here becone a fan of gnr from the other side I mean got introduced to Gnr through Chinese Democracy
And what did they make of Appetite when they got to hear it as I find the two albums a world apart from each other.

think I was 14 when I first saw Welcome to the Jungle on Monsters of Rock on MTV and was blown away. Bought the cassette the next day and introduced it to all my friends who all grew into listening to GnR. Then came Lies, totally different to Appetite but with a twist of acoustic and stripped back.

Few yrs on came UYI 1 & 2. It just felt like toomany yrs passed by waiting for it. Some fantastic songs on them, but Axl had far too much of an influence on the whole production turning them into what felt like a show band with orchestras. Worked for one or 2 songs but not everyone.

Thankfully Izzy went on to make a solo album and Velvet Revolver was born out of the break up

Still will be regarded as one of the greatest rock bands of all time but ruined eventually by a power hungry egomaniac

as much as I loved the 2 UYI concerts I went to back in 91 & 92, there was always this bad aura around Axl. Will he show up, will he blow his top. after the St Louis riots in 91 we didn't even know if the concert in Wembley was even going to happen.

Itssoeasy · 07-01-2017 9:12pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJYf129u4Tw

Some 90s GNR interviews. The video above focuses on the release of UYI 1 and 2. Also Dave Navarro was being tipped to replace izzy. I wonder how gilby Clarke slipped in in front of Dave ?

scudzilla · 07-01-2017 9:25pm

First seen GnR at Donington in '88, The original line up no less

Was a fcuked up day in every sense

Maiden were announced as headliners for the first time back in Feb '88, Great support bill too :-

Kiss
Dave Lee Roth
Megadeth
Guns
Helloween

Now when GnR were booked back in the feb they were a great second on the bill band, by August though they'd exploded and could almost have headlined.

The previous year the promotor, Maurice Jones, said in an interview they limited capacity to 72,500, they could take a lot more but were limited by their own common sense.

Come Aug '88 they let 110,000 people in, i can still remember nearly everything of that day, from arriving the afternoon before, getting wrecked and kipping in an old box office, the rain, the mud etc

2 fans also died during GnR's set, i was about 200 yards from the front and it was terrifying, you couldn't move anywhere, you went with the flow of the crowd and if you fell you were fcucked as nobody could help.

I had a backstage pass that year and met quite a few of the bands, most signed my program but i lost the damn thing in a house move

Here's a pic of young me backstage wit 'Arry

And this is a pic i took at 07:30, they opened the gates that early due to queues, note the slope towards the stage, how people had no chance of movement

After the gig i managed somehow to get to Derby and jumped on a train to Manchester, idea was to change at Crewe and get the ferry train back to North Wales, i fell asleep and ended up sleeping in Manchester station the night, along with 50 or so other like minded bods.

Rang the parents at around 9am the next day and they were in bits, was all over the news about the deaths, of course i had no clue as this was before interwebs

Itssoeasy · 07-01-2017 9:26pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=199b4qKTFQE

Obviously as a GNR fan I'm happy duff got clean and is still around today but when you look at the video above you do wonder how he didn't die. He's a mess in some of the later videos in 1992 and 1993.

Itssoeasy · 07-01-2017 9:31pm

scudzilla wrote: »

First seen GnR at Donington in '88, The original line up no less

Was a fcuked up day in every sense

Maiden were announced as headliners for the first time back in Feb '88, Great support bill too :-

Kiss
Dave Lee Roth
Megadeth
Guns
Helloween

Now when GnR were booked back in the feb they were a great second on the bill band, by August though they'd exploded and could almost have headlined.

The previous year the promotor, Maurice Jones, said in an interview they limited capacity to 72,500, they could take a lot more but were limited by their own common sense.

Come Aug '88 they let 110,000 people in, i can still remember nearly everything of that day, from arriving the afternoon before, getting wrecked and kipping in an old box office, the rain, the mud etc

2 fans also died during GnR's set, i was about 200 yards from the front and it was terrifying, you couldn't move anywhere, you went with the flow of the crowd and if you fell you were fcucked as nobody could help.

I had a backstage pass that year and met quite a few of the bands, most signed my program but i lost the damn thing in a house move

Here's a pic of young me backstage wit 'Arry

And this is a pic i took at 07:30, they opened the gates that early due to queues, note the slope towards the stage, how people had no chance of movement

After the gig i managed somehow to get to Derby and jumped on a train to Manchester, idea was to change at Crewe and get the ferry train back to North Wales, i fell asleep and ended up sleeping in Manchester station the night, along with 50 or so other like minded bods.

Rang the parents at around 9am the next day and they were in bits, was all over the news about the deaths, of course i had no clue as this was before interwebs

Cheers I've read about and seen the footage of the donnighton gig and it looked mental. I've read a report about the deaths but never seen a picture of the slope that was described. I know hindsight is 20/20 but with that many people there and it having been raining and the slope. Was it an accident waiting to happen ?

scudzilla · 07-01-2017 9:34pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Cheers I've read about and seen the footage of the donnighton gig and it looked mental. I've read a report about the deaths but never seen a picture of the slope that was described. I know hindsight is 20/20 but with that many people there and it having been raining and the slope. Was it an accident waiting to happen ?

yeah, it was, look at the slope, add rain (which turns to mud) and 100k+ people to that, the security pit was maybe 4ft deep, and that was also full of photographers, so yeah, was an accident waiting to happen alright

Lithium93_ · 07-01-2017 11:23pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJYf129u4Tw

Some 90s GNR interviews. The video above focuses on the release of UYI 1 and 2. Also Dave Navarro was being tipped to replace izzy. I wonder how gilby Clarke slipped in in front of Dave ?

Probably knowing the band in their early days and being a friend of Izzy's helped. Plus Navarro turning down 4 invites helped :pac:

Itssoeasy · 08-01-2017 1:22am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Itssoeasy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJYf129u4Tw

Some 90s GNR interviews. The video above focuses on the release of UYI 1 and 2. Also Dave Navarro was being tipped to replace izzy. I wonder how gilby Clarke slipped in in front of Dave ?

Probably knowing the band in their early days and being a friend of Izzy's helped. Plus Navarro turning down 4 invites helped :pac:

I didnt know Gilby was a friend of izzy. I knew the band knew of him. Wasn't Dave Navarro involved in the recording in the late nineties ?

Lithium93_ · 08-01-2017 1:31am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I didnt know Gilby was a friend of izzy. I knew the band knew of him. Wasn't Dave Navarro involved in the recording in the late nineties ?

Well now you know. he played on Oh My God, which was a soundtrack only release to Arnold Schwarenneger's 1999 film End Of Days.

Rainman16 · 16-01-2017 8:10pm

New Tour starting Jan 21st in Japan, A mate of mine in Tokyo sent me this image. Sorry image in link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Q4bnrVIAAy2Bd.jpg:large

Rainman16 · 20-01-2017 7:21pm

Guns N Roses touring Japan this week with Babymetal, The first show tonight in Osaka. Found this video from 2015 of Slash saying Babymetal were the most exciting band he'd seen recently and he would be open to the idea of doing a show together.

Lithium93_ · 20-01-2017 7:27pm

The sooner the Japanese shows are done the better, I'm sick of seeing people blab on about Babymetal, their alright, nothing bloody special about them.

Rainman16 · 20-01-2017 7:30pm

https://twitter.com/DuffMcKagan/status/822426713225183232

montec · 20-01-2017 7:49pm

@Scudzilla, thanks for sharing that. Great photo's too. I always remember that bill. Donington was like the cup final of the metal world in those days!!!
Really great line-up, and it's true, Gn'R really did explode at this time. I was just 14 at the time so never got to go.
If you don't mind me asking, how did you get backstage?

Rainman16 · 20-01-2017 10:28pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

The sooner the Japanese shows are done the better, I'm sick of seeing people blab on about Babymetal, their alright, nothing bloody special about them.

It makes perfect sense when you think about it. They are touring Japan, So who better to bring along on tour, then the biggest young metal band in the county. Babymetal bring a new generation of metal fans to GNR, and in return they gain exposure to the GNR fanbase in their own country who they haven't reached yet. Its a win/win situation.

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