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Scientists have surpassed the speed of light!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    Ah but I bet you read it in his voice!

    Yeah but "that rocks!" isn't really his style, more like "Punch that shít Ensign"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Star trek will be reality one day at this rate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    They're some fast scientists!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Which will show that the current models were all wrong and we will have to work towards discovering the actual true model.

    I'd have thought that was obvious? :confused:

    It'll mean starting from scratch though wont it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Artur Foden


    this is amazing if true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Ha are you kidding me an all ? The supersymmetry story was enough to convince me. This is just icing on the cake. What I expected would happen was that the LHC would churn out relatively predictable results as most particle accelerators have done for a while. What I didn't expect and what I think is awesome is that its singlehandedly turning physics on its head. I mean there is a revolution going on in physics here that we are witnessing. Its the most exciting time in physics in about 100 years. Physics was a field in decline in comparison to biology and biochemistry - seems like all that is about to change. Its been blazingly obvious for a long time that the theory had got wildly ahead of the experiment and gone into the realm of fantasy and universes on the back of giant turtles. Finally some work is chucking out the lunacy.

    Aye, there was a chance it was going to go the way of chemistry. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    A neutrino walks into a bar...

    looks around, thinks 'looks like i got here early'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    orourkeda wrote: »
    It'll mean starting from scratch though wont it

    Which is still better than pursuing the wrong science, or at least incomplete science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭joshrogan


    Farnsworth: "These are the dark matter engines I invented, they allow my starship to travel between galaxies in mere hours."

    Cubert: "That's impossible, you can't go faster than the speed of light."

    Farnsworth: "Of course not! That's why Scientists increase the speed of light in 2208!"

    Cubert: "Also impossible."
    _______________________________________

    10181940.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    Class. I hope I wake up as Gordon Freeman or some epic sh*te tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,474 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Warp drive here we come...in a couple of hundred years or so..:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,247 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Are you kidding ? Haven't you been paying attention ?

    Because of the LHC they already think they will have to chuck out Supersymmetry (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14680570) and because of this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14948730) they may have to chuck or rework dark matter.



    Ha are you kidding me an all ? The supersymmetry story was enough to convince me. This is just icing on the cake. What I expected would happen was that the LHC would churn out relatively predictable results as most particle accelerators have done for a while. What I didn't expect and what I think is awesome is that its singlehandedly turning physics on its head. I mean there is a revolution going on in physics here that we are witnessing. Its the most exciting time in physics in about 100 years. Physics was a field in decline in comparison to biology and biochemistry - seems like all that is about to change. Its been blazingly obvious for a long time that the theory had got wildly ahead of the experiment and gone into the realm of fantasy and universes on the back of giant turtles. Finally some work is chucking out the lunacy.

    So yeah I was wrong about the LHC. Long may it continue to fascinate!

    Isn't that where they can squeeze more corpses in than the normal one?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Star trek will be reality one day at this rate


    well in fairness we actually have lots from star trek,
    sliding doors ( ok they dont go whhosh but nearly there )
    communicators - mobile phone
    replicator - 3d printers
    medical bay scanners - mri
    holo deck - LSD
    phasers - stun guns
    guy in red shirt who always get killed - american serviceman in iraq
    warp drive - 1.0 1994 nissan micra with black bonnet , cherry bomb exhaust with micko at the helm making it so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    I doubt it but hopefully it is true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Isn't that where they can squeeze more corpses in than the normal one?:confused:

    You're thinking of a Skoda Octavia


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    Four guys, one each from Harvard, Yale, MIT University and Paddy Murphy from Tallaght were to be interviewed for a job at the Large Hadron Collider.


    One common question was asked to all of them.


    INTERVIEWER: WHICH IS THE FASTEST THING IN THE WORLD?


    YALE Guy: It is Light, nothing can travel faster than Light.


    HARVARD Guy: It's the Thought; because thought is so fast it comes instantly in your mind.


    MIT Guy: Its Blink, you can blink and it's hard to realize you blinked


    Paddy Murphy. Diarrhea


    INTERVIEWER: (Shocked to hear Paddys reply) "WHY"?


    Paddy Murphy: Last night after dinner, I was lying in my bed and I got the worst stomach cramps, and before I could THINK, BLINK, or TURN ON THE LIGHTS, I'd sh*t meself !!

    Paddy didn't get the job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    joshrogan wrote: »



    I can't wait.

    Will we be able to travel 60 nanoseconds into the future or the past, or both?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    I'm very, very sceptical of this.

    There has to be a problem with the findings. Has to be. HAS TO BE!!!!

    But dear Lord I hope it's true.

    @Iwannahurl,
    Backwards in Time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I'm very, very sceptical of this.

    There has to be a problem with the findings. Has to be. HAS TO BE!!!!

    But dear Lord I hope it's true.

    @Iwannahurl,
    Backwards in Time.


    Amazing how so many people WANT this to be true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    orourkeda wrote: »
    That einstein isnt so clever now is he?
    "If I can see further than anyone else, it is only because I am standing on the shoulders of giants" : Isaac Newton


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Pfft relativity is just a theory :rolleyes:






    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    In the immortal words of 2 Unlimited:- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no , no, no There's no limit!

    I believe that the speed of light can be outdone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    I swear to god this will all end with a Gordon Freeman type pushing a trolley of UNKOWN MATERIAL into a particle accelerator and trigging an inter-dimensional rift with a parallel universe of horrific monstrosities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Amazing how so many people WANT this to be true.

    If it is true it's one of the greatest discoveries in recent times.

    It'd be as revolutionary for physics as evolution was to biology. A completely new understanding of how modern physics works would be required.

    But it's probably not true, I'm giving it a .01% chance of being true.

    All of the above is based on my expert understanding of the topics at hand :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Buceph


    Can't be true. The Vulcans haven't arrived to welcome us to the intergalactic community yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    Seachmall wrote: »
    If it is true it's one of the greatest discoveries in recent times.

    It'd be as revolutionary for physics as evolution was to biology. A completely new understanding of how modern physics works would be required.

    But it's probably not true, I'm giving it a .01% chance of being true.

    All of the above is based on my expert understanding of the topics at hand :pac:

    It's too good to be true :D
    Though it could be the best thing to have come out of Italy since pizza.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭CoolHat


    Buceph wrote: »
    Can't be true. The Vulcans haven't arrived to welcome us to the intergalactic community yet.

    exactly. and i just looked outside. I didnt see a sphere shaped object shooting stuff at earth.

    (i need a life :( )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    I'm remaining neutral on this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    I knew my LSD experience was right all these years!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    Bonnie Tylar predicted this in the 80's...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    FunkZ wrote: »
    Bonnie Tylar predicted this in the 80's...



    Maybe she'll get a belated Nobel prize...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    FunkZ wrote: »
    Bonnie Tylar predicted this in the 80's...

    Thanks (I think), I'm now trawling the web trying to find information on what could be the greatest scientific breakthroughs in my lifetime, to the strains of Bonnie Tyler singing "Lost in France". :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    They just need to have a race to finally settle it , my money's on light....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    I'll be impressed when the LHC can explain magnets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    I'll be impressed when the LHC can explain magnets

    They're scientists, not fucking wizards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Never mind magnets, I want a Tachyonic Antitelephone, and I want it 60 nanoseconds ago.

    [URL="[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light#Upper_limit_on_speeds"]Upper limit on speeds[/URL]:
    If the spatial distance between two events A and B is greater than the time interval between them multiplied by c then there are frames of reference in which A precedes B, others in which B precedes A, and others in which they are simultaneous. As a result, if something were travelling faster than c relative to an inertial frame of reference, it would be travelling backwards in time relative to another frame, and causality would be violated. In such a frame of reference, an "effect" could be observed before its "cause". Such a violation of causality has never been recorded, and would lead to paradoxes such as the tachyonic antitelephone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    joshrogan wrote: »

    would be good if we could exterminate scumbags from the planet earth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭unitedrover


    How fast is speed of light?? only time i see light move is in lightning:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    How fast is speed of light?? only time i see light move is in lightning:eek:

    You've never seen light move.

    Typically it's about 186,000 miles a second, too fast for the eye to see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    Steorn will no doubt suggest that their thing has been using this fact...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    How fast is speed of light??
    670,616,629 mph


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Large hard-ons colliding. Thats the last thing I need to see right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Let's not sensationalise here please. Scientists have done a series of experiments, and their data show a very surprising result: that neutrino's were travelling faster than the speed of light. As a result they have published their data so that other scientists can examine them and see what's going on.

    If this is found to be true, it would turn general and special relativity upside down, and these are two very well tested theories.

    It is possible that this is due to some as of yet undiscovered experimental error.

    Would be fairly sensational no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    Let's not sensationalise here please. Scientists have done a series of experiments, and their data show a very surprising result: that neutrino's were travelling faster than the speed of light. As a result they have published their data so that other scientists can examine them and see what's going on.

    If this is found to be true, it would turn general and special relativity upside down, and these are two very well tested theories.

    It is possible that this is due to some as of yet undiscovered experimental error.

    Nice way to ruin Arthur's Day, Captain Killingcraic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭godspal


    Well what the theory of relativity states is that the mass of an object becomes infinitely heavy and time comes to a complete halt within that object. Now this means that some particles are able to hold infinite mass without self-destructing, or that at the point of the speed of light the mass of an object may change.

    I believe that the findings of however pose a particular problem, we do not have the instruments needed to evaluate the findings properly, which is a pity. It will take 5-6 years before we can figure out what we are really seeing.

    As for the time-travel thing, well sub-atomic particles actually exist at a level (called sub-atomic film) where time stops. Since the film is unbreakable, you could potentially stretch one of the sub-atomic bubbles in the sub-atomic film, wide enough to fit a human through and from the point on, you could technically travel through time. However travelling into the past is highly improbable, but due to the "big numbers theory" there is a distinct possibility that in space one of these sub-atomic particles have stretched itself to human size, and you could travel through time in one of these bits.

    Hittin some knowledge for all-ye-all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    orourkeda wrote: »
    How will it advance science. If I understand it correctly (which I dont) then this will disprove the entire basis of modern phsics as stated in the article.

    All the scientists who have been outcast from their fields for proposing "crazy" ideas that require the Special Theory of Relativity to be false will look pretty smug I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Light travels at a speed of 186000 miles a second or 700 million miles an hour.

    The reports are of a 60 nano second differnence

    A nanosecond (ns) is one billionth of a second (10−9 s). One nanosecond is to one second as one second is to 31.7 years.

    Nothing to sere here! even if you could see it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭CoolHat


    Light travels at a speed of 186000 miles a second or 700 million miles an hour.

    The reports are of a 60 nano second differnence

    A nanosecond (ns) is one billionth of a second (10−9 s). One nanosecond is to one second as one second is to 31.7 years.

    Nothing to sere here! even if you could see it!

    :eek: alot of equations. boggles the mind :pac:

    But am I right to believe its the aspect of travelling faster than light so, if a ship could house such engines it could reach other solar systems quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭thecornflake


    I just read the article whilst repeating "oh no oh no" to myself.

    I would imagine and hope that this is an error of some kind or a publicity stunt.

    Although the Higgs Boson is pretty much undiscovered and doesn't seem like it will be. Is this the very end of the standard model and Relativity ?

    If, and i say "IF" this is true it is monumental, extremely monumental.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,429 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    the end is nigh


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