Norris in trouble again?

JMSE

darkman2 wrote: »

SINDO front page from twitter. Norris has got Shane Ross vote

this is just cruel, how many is it now 18? 19?

Godammit, why doesnt Enda just throw a few spare sigs at him and get Norris off the front page, its all doing nothing for Gay Mitchell

Solnskaya

Norris's chance at a slot is probably buggered now. He must be bummed.

ThinkAboutIt

I don't want to bring homosexually into it, but by christ it seems some people in Ireland are intent on him having him on the ballot.

I take on board he did wrong, but this is basically a mash up of the first story. :mad:

My name is URL

darkman2 wrote: »

SINDO front page from twitter. Norris has got Shane Ross vote

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/406503777.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1316900435&Signature=k%2FnZa9BzTHpqmYSUztKIUEhQGA4%3D

lol @ Mitchell suggesting that McGuinness is a Manchurian candidate. He's like Ireland's Glenn Beck.

beagle001

Norris needs to go pronto,
Its just a case of what comes up next,its turning more American by the day dishing the dirt on each candidate but you bet Norris with is sordid past has many a tale yet to be told.
He has become a distraction to the whole process and if the man had any dignity or respect for the race to the Aras he would just pull out the people do not want you Norris.

Paparazzo

If Norris doesn't run, they might as well make Michael D president now. I'd say most Norris voters would transfer their vote to Michael D ahead of McGuinness. Thank fúck, if McGuinness gets it i'd be worried.

Dartz

I'd rather vote for Norris than McGuinness.


EDIT: **** it, I'm probably going to blank-ballot this one

tonycascarino

Paparazzo wrote: »

Thank fúck, if McGuinness gets it i'd be worried.

McGuinness could easily get it. You should start worrying.

Biggins

Paparazzo wrote: »

If Norris doesn't run, they might as well make Michael D president now. I'd say most Norris voters would transfer their vote to Michael D ahead of McGuinness. Thank fúck, if McGuinness gets it i'd be worried.

You might be surprised.
Some might be upset at the establishment using a possible unfair electoral system to get their own man in - and thus vote for someone that will turn things about in upset!

Solnskaya

beagle001 wrote: »

Norris needs to go pronto,
Its just a case of what comes up next,its turning more American by the day dishing the dirt on each candidate but you bet Norris with is sordid past has many a tale yet to be told.
He has become a distraction to the whole process and if the man had any dignity or respect for the race to the Aras he would just pull out the people do not want you Norris.

no comment:D The fact that he is being taken seriosly as a candidate amazes me. Not because he is gay, because a lot of people are gay, big deal, but because he is a twat, and that's not what we need for a president. We need a dignified, presentable, uncontentious, bland figure-head. Someone like.....err, like....., jasus, I'm struggling here....

cowzerp

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

I take on board he did wrong, but this is basically a mash up of the first story. :mad:

No it's not, the issue here is not the letters now-it's the fact he's hiding the truth and it's only coming out because he's been caught out

Biggins

Solnskaya wrote: »

...We need a dignified, presentable, uncontentious, bland figure-head. Someone like.....err, like....., jasus, I'm struggling here....

Dana?

(No, I'm not serious.)

CoolHat

hondasam wrote: »

To have your say and elect who you think is the best person for the job.

I know what you are saying. But lets look at politics. They are all as bad as each other. Even bertie and haughty were seen as "a good guy to vote for" before they got in. And look what happened. Utter crooks.

Biggins wrote: »

Why do you think Mr Ahern and Charley Haughty were possibly so successful?
..Even still, why the current establishment are possibly afraid to go after such people?

Its a dirty game indeed.

Corkfeen

My name is URL wrote: »

lol @ Mitchell suggesting that McGuinness is a Manchurian candidate. He's like Ireland's Glenn Beck.

I'm McGuinness' biggest critic and have no intention of voting for him. But wtf, a Manchurian Candidate would indicate that he's under hypnosis and is unknowingly a trained assassin.

Craebear

Hey Irish media, can we have a bit more scrutiny of the other candidates now? Especially the ones that are confirmed to be in the race. I'm sure they've done questionable things in the past too.

At this stage people who want to vote Norris will vote Norris, does who don't, won't. Continuing to try and sabotage his campaign is pointless now.

Biggins

CoolHat wrote: »

...Its a dirty game indeed.

I have played in it - with a lot of the current players too - and yes, very dirty, back-stabbing and unreal.
The public don't know 95% of it.

My name is URL

Paparazzo wrote: »

If Norris doesn't run, they might as well make Michael D president now. I'd say most Norris voters would transfer their vote to Michael D ahead of McGuinness. Thank fúck, if McGuinness gets it i'd be worried.

Out of interest, what exactly are you worried about? It's been shown time and time again that the Irish president has no real power. It's not as if McGuinness could single-handedly cause the downfall of the country as head of state. Do you think he's going to order the DF to invade & reclaim NI or something? There's no denying that his history is questionable but he's being made out to be some sort of unknown bogeyman in order to blatantly scare people, and it's unnecessary. He hasn't caused the demise of Northern Ireland while he's been in power, so why do people feel that it will be any different if he were president?

And I say all that as someone who will be giving first preference to Higgins.

Tomk1

4leto wrote: »

So he thought he could conceal that when it emerged about the one letter.

The man has NO HONOUR.

He is as bad and even worse then some the other gombeens in Irish public life.

This man is not worthy of the Irish Presidency, fullstop.

And maybe when he was 10, he stole a lolly-pop, and maybe drank before being 18, and sent a few letters. Shame On Him, instead he should of ordered the deaths of a few people to get the respect needed to become next president.

Big whoopie doo. Nothing to see here same-o same-o just move on.

Red Right Hand

Temptamperu wrote: »

Ephebophile? isnt that what its called?

The bould senator would like that word, it's a big word, and he would know how to pronounce it.

:pac::pac::pac::pac:

LordSutch

Paparazzo wrote: »

If Norris doesn't run, they might as well make Michael D president now. I'd say most Norris voters would transfer their vote to Michael D ahead of McGuinness. Thank fúck, if McGuinness gets it i'd be worried.

Thankfully he won't, and although it has been very weird & a bit scary the way many people "seem" to have just welcomed him into our Presidential race, almost as if he had no Provo baggage. I think the real money will stay with betting on Norris or Michael D Higgins, I honestly can't see the majority of the Irish public being hoodwinked into voting for ex-Porvo McGuinness to be our President < The very thought is sooo crazy.

mikemac

JMSE wrote: »

this is just cruel, how many is it now 18? 19?

Shane Ross makes it eighteen

Pringle and Seamus Healy won't back him
Michael Lowry undecided
Mattie McGrath and Sentar Rónan Mullen extremely unlikely to back him. Mattie is looking to back Dana I believe

Who have I missed?
I don't think there is anyone left

edit, I think Finian McGrath pulled his support from Norris and never came back. So I'll put him in undecided

keano_afc

Craebear wrote: »

Hey Irish media, can we have a bit more scrutiny of the other candidates now? Especially the ones that are confirmed to be in the race. I'm sure they've done questionable things in the past too.

At this stage people who want to vote Norris will vote Norris, does who don't, won't. Continuing to try and sabotage his campaign is pointless now.

This is the whole thing in a nutshell. It seems people are so desperate to get a homosexual on the ballot paper that he can do pretty much anything and people will still vote for him purely because of his sexuality.. The man has no shame. Not only should he pull out of this race AGAIN, he should resign as a senator too.

Eurovisionmad

4leto wrote: »

So he thought he could conceal that when it emerged about the one letter.

The man has NO HONOUR.

He is as bad and even worse then some the other gombeens in Irish public life.

This man is not worthy of the Irish Presidency, fullstop.

But a man who everyone knows HAS murdered (or at least given the go ahead to murder) is OK?

4leto

Tomk1 wrote: »

And maybe when he was 10, he stole a lolly-pop, and maybe drank before being 18, and sent a few letters. Shame On Him, instead he should of ordered the deaths of a few people to get the respect needed to become next president.

Big whoopie doo. Nothing to see here same-o same-o just move on.

So you are condoning his concealment to the Irish public.

I really do not know what that has to do with Martin Mc Guinness. Besides I have another set of opinions on his candidacy.

Big Nasty

Biggins wrote: »

Have an account with the Times - if they post anything, will let ye know.
WON'T post word for word (publishing rights, etc) but summarised if anything appears.

If it's published what's the problem with posting it on a forum?

Why all the 'smoke and daggers'?

Biggins

MCMLXXV wrote: »

If it's published what's the problem with posting it on a forum?

Why all the 'smoke and daggers'?

It was pointed out to me (with justification) that to post stuff word for word, that is behind a "pay-wall" has copyright infringement issues.
As I very much like and appreciate boards.ie, I have no wish to break any rules that will risk my being a fellow member here.

Stev_o

All I want to know is who has the nicest smile out of all of them?

Ally Dick

Stev_o wrote: »

All I want to know is who has the nicest smile out of all of them?

McGuinness has the smile of a snake oil salesman

cml387

Is it to do with him writing more letters to Israeli politicians about his partner?

Paparazzo

My name is URL wrote: »

Out of interest, what exactly are you worried about? It's been shown time and time again that the Irish president has no real power. It's not as if McGuinness could single-handedly cause the downfall of the country as head of state. Do you think he's going to order the DF to invade & reclaim NI or something? There's no denying that his history is questionable but he's being made out to be some sort of unknown bogeyman in order to blatantly scare people, and it's unnecessary. He hasn't caused the demise of Northern Ireland while he's been in power, so why do people feel that it will be any different if he were president?

And I say all that as someone who will be giving first preference to Higgins.

No, just worried about how retarded our electorate are if they vote for McGuinness.

Biggins

Paparazzo wrote: »

No, just worried about how retarded our electorate are if they vote for McGuinness.

You ask/say that when they elected FF/Haughty/Ahern countless times?

Big Nasty

Biggins wrote: »

It was pointed out to me (with justification) that to post stuff word for word, that is behind a "pay-wall" has copyright infringement issues.
As I very much like and appreciate boards.ie, I have no wish to break any rules that will risk my being a fellow member here.

Maybe I'm missing something here - the IT publish something and you post same here and then there's copright issues? People quote articles here all day every day.

Would you download a car?

Red Right Hand

President Nonce or President McMurder. It's your choice citizens.

joshrogan

It's pretty clear Dana is the only suitable choice here.

General General

If only someone had nominated Jackie Charlton.

padd b1975

Biggins wrote: »

You ask/say that when they elected FF/Haughty/Ahern countless times?

Your use of the word "they" makes me think you are not registered to vote in Irish General Elections.
Am I right?

LordSutch

It is weird when you think about it, the fact that McGuinness (a self proclaimed member of the Provisional IRA) is being welcomed into the race, and yet Norris (who sent some ill advised letters) is being vilified. Just twelve or fifteen years ago McGuinness's name was mud down here, Why? because he always refused to condemn the IRA atrocities, and people suspected him of being in the IRA, which was a disgrace to most people down here! but now, as history is being re-written before our eyes, McGuinness is the hero of the hour, (with his IRA past as a badge of honour to many) while at the same time Senator David Norris is now seen as the bad fella :cool:

Scratches head.

Biggins

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Maybe I'm missing something here - the IT publish something and you post same here and then there's copright issues? People quote articles here all day every day.

Would you download a car?

Depends... if its a Rolls Royce or a Lada!

The Irish Times is not behind an internet subscription 'pay-wall' whereas the English Times is.

squod

Biggins wrote: »

You ask that when they elected FF/Haughty/Ahern countless times?

And this shower......... FG.

Money for bankers ✓
Money for massive civil service pensions ✓
Money for stupid monuments ✓
Money for hospitals X
Money for teachers assistants X
Money for job creation projects X

cml387

Some horrible people might say that having sex with minors is worse than blowing them up.But I wouldn't stoop so low.

Biggins

padd b1975 wrote: »

Your use of the word "they" makes me think you are not registered to vote in Irish General Elections.
Am I right?

No, you are wrong.
I use the word "they" as in general terms, as in "they, the public..."

squod wrote: »

And this shower......... FG.

Money for bankers ✓
Money for massive civil service pensions ✓
Money for stupid monuments ✓
Money for hospitals X
Money for teachers assistants X
Money for job creation projects X

No argument from me. I agree.

Nodin

darkman2 wrote: »

...and has given permission for us to vote for McGuinness

http://s1.proxy05.twitpic.com/photos/large/406503714.jpg

Five whole pages dedicated to slagging off McGuiness? They must be shitting themselves.

FurryFace

Personally I like Norris....don't know why.....he's strangely interesting like a naughty uncle.

Absurdum

LordSutch wrote: »

the fact that McGuinness (a self proclaimed member of the Provisional IRA) is being welcomed into the race,

do you live under a rock?

tonycascarino

Nodin wrote: »

Five whole pages dedicated to slagging off McGuiness? They must be shitting themselves.

Great isn't it

padd b1975

Biggins wrote: »

No, you are wrong.
I use the word "they" as in general terms, as in "they, the public..."

I would have used "we" as in "we the public".

4leto

LordSutch wrote: »

It is weird when you think about it, the fact that McGuinness (a self proclaimed member of the Provisional IRA) is being welcomed into the race, and yet Norris (who sent some ill advised letters) is being vilified. Just twelve or fifteen years ago McGuinness's name was mud down here, Why? because he always refused to condemn the IRA atrocities, and people suspected him of being in the IRA, which was a disgrace to most people down here! but now, as history is being re-written before our eyes, McGuinness is the hero of the hour, (with his IRA past as a badge of honour to many) while at the same time Senator David Norris is now seen as the bad fella :cool:

Scratches head.

Because of the peace process, wasn't part of the reconciliation of that process to forgive and forget their past involvement in terrorism. Didn't they release all the prisoners because of that.

We know he has a past, we can even guess its grim, but they are fully in the political process now.

I fully supported Norris up to 2 months ago because he was gay and I thought honourable, but not now, lets face it he is not a good candidate.

ILikeBananas

CoolHat wrote: »

I know what you are saying. But lets look at politics. They are all as bad as each other.

Nonsense statement that ends up justifying the very worst of behaviour whilst simultaneously dragging down good men and women.

Biggins

padd b1975 wrote: »

I would have used "we" as in "we the public"

That might imply "we all did" - whereas some of us didn't.
Anyway, lets move on and back on topic.

Pompey Magnus

Will this mean Katherine Zappone may consider withdrawing her nomination? She claimed to have required a written assurance from Norris that there would be no more revelations, it now seems that he misled her to get her nomination.

Why the hell didn't he just come clean about it at the time and give all the information?