Spurs v Rovers - Match Thread (football talk only)

Mullo76

ziedth wrote: »

7/1 for the draw tonight on PP? Worth €5 maybe.

Honestly I think I would buy a pint with fiver but decent odds. Think that shows what the bookies think. What odds ricketts for an anytime goal?

D_B_

If we're talking about the football here then theres only one way Rovers can play. 4-5-1 with Kilduff up front. Fair enough, Twigg gets his few goals in the League but when he comes up against any decent standard of defender, he looks like he's running in treacle.

We don't have a striker classy enough to worry any Spurs defence with sheer ability so the only option is Kilduff purely because of his height and pace. He'll be a nuisance. And 15 league goals last year playing in a UCD side that could have been relegated is not to be sniffed at, he can finish if he gets the chance.

If we need a goal late on, Sheppard can be thrown on but under no circumstances should Gary Twigg be let near the pitch tonight. Anyone agree?

boredboard

how this ne will pan out... had a comfortable win in Edinburgh but Rovers will offer a greater test imho. Think the occasion will definitely lift their play. I cheered them on when they qualified eventhough I am not from Tallaght; or Dublin for that matter... If Lennon plays I think it will be an easy win... but there's always the risk of complacency; plus one eye on Sunday...

Mullo76

D_B_ wrote: »

If we're talking about the football here then theres only one way Rovers can play. 4-5-1 with Kilduff up front. Fair enough, Twigg gets his few goals in the League but when he comes up against any decent standard of defender, he looks like he's running in treacle.

We don't have a striker classy enough to worry any Spurs defence with sheer ability so the only option is Kilduff purely because of his height and pace. He'll be a nuisance. And 15 league goals last year playing in a UCD side that could have been relegated is not to be sniffed at, he can finish if he gets the chance.

If we need a goal late on, Sheppard can be thrown on but under no circumstances should Gary Twigg be let near the pitch tonight. Anyone agree?

think you are on the money really. I think Bassong can be gotten at if he is physically put under pressure and Kilduff will do that but the one question I have is that is playing one up top going to end up with him being completely isolated and bring constant pressure onto the rovers defence. If so can they withstand this over 90.

Would it be a better option to play a type of 4 - 4- 1 -1 so at least he gets support. whomever was playing behind him would want to have some engine because Spurs will keep the ball for long periods, probably more so than any other team you have faced competitively so far?

Hatch99

boredboard wrote: »

but there's always the risk of complacency; plus one eye on Sunday...

or 2 eyes as harry said yesterday

Mullo76

boredboard wrote: »

how this ne will pan out... had a comfortable win in Edinburgh but Rovers will offer a greater test imho. Think the occasion will definitely lift their play. I cheered them on when they qualified eventhough I am not from Tallaght; or Dublin for that matter... If Lennon plays I think it will be an easy win... but there's always the risk of complacency; plus one eye on Sunday...

I wouldnt be hanging my hat on lennon unless he got some crossing coaching whilst out injured, maybe he watched a lot of dvds of good crossers of the ball.:D

Hatch99

ziedth wrote: »

7/1 for the draw tonight on PP? Worth €5 maybe.

Spurs -2 at 11/10

D_B_

Mullo76 wrote: »

think you are on the money really. I think Bassong can be gotten at if he is physically put under pressure and Kilduff will do that but the one question I have is that is playing one up top going to end up with him being completely isolated and bring constant pressure onto the rovers defence. If so can they withstand this over 90.

Would it be a better option to play a type of 4 - 4- 1 -1 so at least he gets support. whomever was playing behind him would want to have some engine because Spurs will keep the ball for long periods, probably more so than any other team you have faced competitively so far?

I don't think we can afford to play a midfielder in an attacking role. If we end up playing like we did against Kazan then the Jack Charlton long ball will come out of the locker and he'd be bypassed anyway. I think we'd be much better off playing a 4-1-4-1 and using the holding midfielder as a shield defensibly and also as a middle man going forward to enable us to play on the floor going forward.

And tonight is the last chance I'm giving Dennehy. I'm not a fan of Aidan McGeady and therefore I'm not a fan of the poor man's McGeady. If he starts pussy footing around, trying to beat the full back 4 times before putting his cross in etc., I'll end up pulling out the very little hair I have left...

Derfil

Spurs looking at this as a warm up game to give previously injured players a run out. Rovers are going to look at this as a one off cup final, winner takes all which is the right attitude for them. Expect Rovers to give a good account of themselves and wouldn't be surprised if they nicked it 1-0.

Mullo76

D_B_ wrote: »

I don't think we can afford to play a midfielder in an attacking role. If we end up playing like we did against Kazan then the Jack Charlton long ball will come out of the locker and he'd be bypassed anyway. I think we'd be much better off playing a 4-1-4-1 and using the holding midfielder as a shield defensibly and also as a middle man going forward to enable us to play on the floor going forward.

And tonight is the last chance I'm giving Dennehy. I'm not a fan of Aidan McGeady and therefore I'm not a fan of the poor man's McGeady. If he starts pussy footing around, trying to beat the full back 4 times before putting his cross in etc., I'll end up pulling out the very little hair I have left...

that would an option and will allow someone to support the loan striker. "the poor mans mcgeady" great tag line. If BAE or Rose are playing left full he wont get 3/4 chances to cross the ball, he will get one if even and if he loses it esp Rose is quick and will leave him standing. Intriguing game I think. From a spurs point of view the main worry is heart, surely the rovers players will put everything on the line and more, question is will it be enough. Sure its great to be even talking about it.

Mullo76

Derfil wrote: »

Spurs looking at this as a warm up game to give previously injured players a run out. Rovers are going to look at this as a one off cup final, winner takes all which is the right attitude for them. Expect Rovers to give a good account of themselves and wouldn't be surprised if they nicked it 1-0.

that says what I wanted to say but better. football is a funny aul game

D_B_

Mullo76 wrote: »

that would an option and will allow someone to support the loan striker. "the poor mans mcgeady" great tag line. If BAE or Rose are playing left full he wont get 3/4 chances to cross the ball, he will get one if even and if he loses it esp Rose is quick and will leave him standing. Intriguing game I think. From a spurs point of view the main worry is heart, surely the rovers players will put everything on the line and more, question is will it be enough. Sure its great to be even talking about it.

It's crazy to be able to sit here talking about it! Sure we'll see how it goes tonight. Great to chat to someone here who seems to know his football. G'luck!

Mullo76

D_B_ wrote: »

It's crazy to be able to sit here talking about it! Sure we'll see how it goes tonight. Great to chat to someone here who seems to know his football. G'luck!

cheers you too.

Mullo76

Right lads, logging off. Heading to Tottenham to find a nice bar stool to watch the game from. COYS

ziedth

Mullo76 wrote: »

Honestly I think I would buy a pint with fiver but decent odds. Think that shows what the bookies think. What odds ricketts for an anytime goal?

6/1.

I'm looking at Ricketts to score anytime and Rovers win @ 55/1 they really aren't giving them a hope in hell.

Mullo76

ziedth wrote: »

Mullo76 wrote: »

Honestly I think I would buy a pint with fiver but decent odds. Think that shows what the bookies think. What odds ricketts for an anytime goal?

6/1.

I'm looking at Ricketts to score anytime
and Rovers win @ 55/1 they really aren't giving them a hope in hell.

That might be worth a fiver at those odds
though i can't be betting against spurs

boredboard

Mullo76 wrote: »

I wouldnt be hanging my hat on lennon unless he got some crossing coaching whilst out injured, maybe he watched a lot of dvds of good crossers of the ball.:D

yea that is a commonly held view but he is a very good impact player and has scored some important goals in big games; I guess what I am saying is there's more to him than crossing the ball;) I think he will do well tonight if he plays...

KingdomYid

I have been supporting Spurs long enough now to take no result as a given, therefore am looking forward to this game and hoping for a good solid performance.

mushykeogh

Anyone hazard a guess at the starting eleven?

Pacing Mule

I am expecting a strong performance from Rovers but a total collapse by the end.

mushykeogh

hope Pav gets the finger out tonight. Looking forward to seeing how carroll and livermore get on in the middle.

Jmcc001

Cudicini; Walker, Bassong, Corluka, Rose; Lennon, Carroll, Livermore, Giovani; Defoe, Pavlyuchenko.
subs Gomes, Kaboul, Bale, Falque, Modric, Townsend, Kane.

super_furry

Mon the Hoops! Absolutely raging I'm not over there but a lack of funds and zero days off left this year have me stuck with Trevor "Exclusively" Welch.

super_furry

Shamrock Rovers: Richard Brush, Pat Sullivan, Dan Murray, Craig Sives, James Paterson, Gary McCabe, Stephen Rice, Stephen O'Donnell, Ronan Finn, Billy Dennehy, Gary Twigg.

Disappointed that O'Neill's gone with Twigg rather than Kilduff, who's a lot better at holding up the ball and bringing others into play. Brush starts after Thompson's late knock, massive game for him to be coming into cold.

Edit - Doh, thought I was in the main soccer forum. Didn't realise it was Spurs.

Bandscan

Spurs: Cudicini; Walker, Corluka, Bassong, Rose; Lennon, Livermore, Carroll, Dos Santos; Pavlyuchenko, Defoe

Shamrock Rovers; Brush, Sullivan, Sives, Murray, Paterson; McCabe, Finn, Rice, O'Donnell, Dennehy; Twigg

Bandscan

Rovers XI: Brush, Sullivan, Sives, Murray, Paterson; McCabe, Finn, Rice, O'Donnell, Dennehy; Twigg

Looking at that line up its the long ball to Twigg,9-10 times it never works,Rovers should have just gone for it Kilduff & Sheppard with front would cause problems,Twigg will just lose the ball and Spurs will be on the attack again.

Pacing Mule

Debating watching this on channel 5 instead of TV3

keane=cock

enda stevens not starting??????

golfnewbie

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Genuinely hope the rovers supporters enjoy their trip to the home of football

come on the hoops... (we are both delusional .... home of football!! )

larry1

Roddy Collins... Nice shirt & tie

keane=cock

is that pat dolan on tv3 turned to channel 5

larry1

Pat Dolan.... Noooooooooooooo

neris

hope the officals are up to scratch all lithuanians. not exactly a footballing hotspot

keane=cock

larry1 wrote: »

Pat Dolan.... Noooooooooooooo

channel 5

they keep calling them shamrock but its better than listening to that cock

Balfie

OH JAYSUS Pat Dolan. Please tv3 what did we do to deserve this?

Hope its a good game,

keane=cock

pav is dirt. id rather a rovers player up top for us.

ziedth

Gio and Carroll looking useful. Pav seems to be picking up where he left off.

keane=cock

ziedth wrote: »

Gio and Carroll looking useful. Pav seems to be picking up where he left off.

pitty the team coach bothered picking him up!;)

Pacing Mule

FFS Pav :mad:

keane=cock

keane=cock wrote: »

pav is dirt. id rather a rovers player up top for us.

i repeat my earlier statement

ziedth

Stay down Pav

ziedth

I said I'd stick €5 on Rovers to win 1-0 @ 45/1. God I don't want it to happen.

I think we could regret those two misses.

Balfie

gio is lookin well.. Goin for everything, is passing and movement is brilliant.. He's doin very well so far..

keane=cock

agreed balfie.

gio is doing well. his corners are poor though

Balfie

yeah they are poor but he is doin better than pav. Not that hard in fairness but he is seeing more of the ball than defoe..

keane=cock

alright, pav. that was unlucky. im not pickin on him.....

Sugarlumps

Next time you'll see pav is in some dodgey russian porn flick getting buggered.

Sugarlumps

Rovers have been excellent!

keane=cock

Sugarlumps wrote: »

Rovers have been excellent!

they have done well with the ball and in fairness their keeper has pulled off a few good saves.

can they keep it up though

ziedth

They look allot better then Liverpool did