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ESDF - Why isn't this the norm?

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  • 27-09-2011 1:32am
    #1
    Gingervitis
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭


    http://www.use-esdf.org/

    It makes a lot of sense, freeing up the pinky and being in the natural typing position. This almost comparable to the migration from cursor keys to WSAD!


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    #2
    SeantheMan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    I disagree. With my ring finger changed to S

    - Z requires too much effort
    - Ctrl, Shift and Caps are too awkward
    - Only viable options are '|' and 'A'

    - Number access starts at 2 as opposed to 1

    Ring finger at current 'A'
    -Ctrl , Shift and Caps are reachable

    -Number access is easy from 1 onwards
    The reasons give on that site are


    + Provides access to more surrounding keys
    Not necessarily true as above

    + Natural Typing position
    My natural typing position has now changed to accomodate my usual AWSD, so that is my natural position

    + Offers left hand mouse users a bit more freedom
    How many left hand mouse users are there ? I know that nearly all left handed people I know use their right hand for the mouse

    + Real Gamers won't consider you a newb
    This makes no sense, it's n00b !! and we would

    + Only sheep use WASD. Are you a sheep?
    BBBbbbbaaaaaaaaa !!


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    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I used to swear by the arrow keys, but i've moved to WASD now. It's just easier, and it's generally the default. I do change some controls though, such as jump to middle mouse (old habit).


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    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I'm assuming the website is a pisstake, right? Please let it be a pisstake.


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    Elrollo
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    humanji wrote: »
    I'm assuming the website is a pisstake, right? Please let it be a pisstake.
    You've seen youtube comments right? You should know there is indeed this kind of rampant silliness online!


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    #6
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Elrollo wrote: »
    You've seen youtube comments right? You should know there is indeed this kind of rampant silliness online!
    Oh it's too early in the morning for me to be able make judgement calls under my own power.


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    #7
    Elrollo
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    humanji wrote: »
    Oh it's too early in the morning for me to be able make judgement calls under my own power.
    haha, grab a cuppa tea then and take it easy, sure its only tuesday :D


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    #8
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    E A D F works best for me

    i have shovels for hands tho


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    #9
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    IJKL is my favoured layout in recent times. Arrows was fine until I ran out of keys, but I'll still use it for the simple control games.

    WASD is too far to the left and not enough surrounding keys.


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    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    They're all abominations, tbh.

    3311380818_5a4a9e6523.jpg
    Snes D-Pad by Peter Leigh Photography©, on Flickr


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    #11
    Wossack
    Registered Users Posts: 7,016 ✭✭✭Wossack


    my little finger (pinky.. pfft), is border line spasticated. z,x,\,ctrl, & shift is pretty much all it can be trusted with


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    #12
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    i am not a sheep :(


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    #13
    Elrollo
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    WSAD was how I learned how to play fps on PC, before it was arrows, like an old dog, I shall not be learning a new trick!


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    #14
    Antar Bolaeisk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Don't be absurd, everyone knows yfgh is where it's at, right slap bang in the middle of the keyboard for easy access to everything.

    Used to use the arrow keys but ended up with wasd as that was the default setting, now I can't use anything else.


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    #15
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Home, DELETE, End, page down like a boss...


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    #16
    TomCo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭TomCo


    Standalone numpad + mouse.


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    #17
    Elrollo
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    TomCo wrote: »
    Standalone numpad + mouse.
    Xbox pad connected to your PC like a boss!


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    Shiminay
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I've been using RDFG for over 10 years now, the flexibility of having quick access to more keys made it an obvious choice. I can quickly and instinctively reach 3 4 5 W E A S \ Z T Y H J B N which combined with MOUSE 4 & 5 means I've got pretty much every option covered.


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    #19
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,445 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    They're all abominations, tbh.

    3311380818_5a4a9e6523.jpg
    Snes D-Pad by Peter Leigh Photography©, on Flickr

    Pfft... Japanese Saturn pad is far superior.
    Untitled Image




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    #20
    Elrollo
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Pfft... Japanese Saturn pad is far superior.
    dreamcast-controller-1vcm-460.jpg
    :scoff: the Dreamcast controller is where its at these days


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    #21
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,445 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    An abonimation based on the superior Saturn 3D pad :P
    Untitled Image




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    #22
    Elrollo
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    how dare you! It's got a wee screen on it, therefore making it a markedly superior peripheral than the puny Saturn controller :pac:


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    #23
    D
    Registered Users Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭D


    wasd works for most simple action fps games for more detailed games or mmos esdf is better as you need those hotkeys.


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    #24
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,331 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    SeantheMan wrote: »
    + Natural Typing position
    My natural typing position has now changed to accomodate my usual AWSD, so that is my natural position
    Natural Typing Position is ASDF - JKL:

    You might have noticed the notches on your F and J keys, indicating where your index fingers should be at rest for natural typing position.


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    #25
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Only time I've seen people advocate ESDF is in wow for arena pvpers. It was just so they had more keys for classes that use a lot of macros in arena.


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    #26
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,953 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I've always used the arrow keys plus a combination of right ctrl, right shift, enter, mmb, num 0 for crouch, run, use, jump, various. This is a very old habit going back maybe 12 years or more so I'm not inclined to change now. It's caused me minimal fuss save for having to faff about at the control menu but since I've done it so much, I can do it in double quick time.


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