Ferguson Ariva 120 Users Thread

My name is URL

I just had one of these boxes installed today.. I don't seem to have BBC2 NI, 3 or 4 however. Any tips on how to add them to the channel list?

Tony

My name is URL wrote: »

I just had one of these boxes installed today.. I don't seem to have BBC2 NI, 3 or 4 however. Any tips on how to add them to the channel list?

BBC 3 and 4 do not start till 7pm. A transponder scan using the tuning guide sticky thread will get you BBC NI.

My name is URL

Tony wrote: »

BBC 3 and 4 do not start till 7pm. A transponder scan using the tuning guide sticky thread will get you BBC NI.

Thanks Tony. Should BBC 3 & 4 not show up on the channel list until programming has started?

Tony

My name is URL wrote: »

Thanks Tony. Should BBC 3 & 4 not show up on the channel list until programming has started?

If the channel list that was installed has them then yes, depends on what list your installer used.

SAINTRON

I have a setanta feed that is still live for some reason from NTL years ago. I plugged it into the antenna in slot on the back of the ARIVA but cant seem to tune it in?

Any ideas?

Many thanks and best wishes for the holidays,

:);)

Tony

NTL is cable tv the ariva is not a cable box.

SAINTRON

Thanks Tony, so feed direct to TV? Its a UK Panasonic so it wont pick up the signal. Guess its no good to me then....

dodzy

SAINTRON wrote: »

I have a setanta feed that is still live for some reason from NTL years ago. I plugged it into the antenna in slot on the back of the ARIVA but cant seem to tune it in?

Any ideas?


Many thanks and best wishes for the holidays,

:);)

How do you know the feed is still "live"? Have you tested it on another set?

SAINTRON wrote: »

Thanks Tony, so feed direct to TV? Its a UK Panasonic so it wont pick up the signal. Guess its no good to me then....

If you have a feed from UPC throught the cable, the TV will be fine. It just needs to be tuned. (with the cable plugged directly into the antenna connection at rear of the TV)

SAINTRON

dodzy wrote: »

How do you know the feed is still "live"? Have you tested it on another set?


If you have a feed from UPC throught the cable, the TV will be fine. It just needs to be tuned. (with the cable plugged directly into the antenna connection at rear of the TV)

Yeah, works on another TV but the Panasonic wont pick up those freqs unfortunately....

dodzy

SAINTRON wrote: »

Yeah, works on another TV but the Panasonic wont pick up those freqs unfortunately....

Why not ?

Tony

dodzy wrote: »

Why not ?

Probably beacuse its UK/UHF only as already mentioned. UPC cable is VHF . Can we get back on topic please.

monkeycork

i can't record on a external hard drive. ariva 120 combo using WD Elements usb 2.0 NTFS file system with external power. plug the USB into my desktop it works perfect. plug it into the usb slot in the ariva, nothing happens. in the REC menu the only option is time setting.

STB

monkeycork wrote: »

i can't record on a external hard drive. ariva 120 combo using WD Elements usb 2.0 NTFS file system with external power. plug the USB into my desktop it works perfect. plug it into the usb slot in the ariva, nothing happens. in the REC menu the only option is time setting.

Highly fragmented or used memories may also not operate smoothly or correctly.

External hard disk drives should be autonomously powered, since the built-in USB port is unable to provide sufficient power.

It can sometimes take some time for the drive to load depending on the amount of DATA on it. You will see USb connected and then PVR ready when it is ready. Sometimes that can take some time to connect.

It can be picky if not powered by mains. Having said that I am using a USB 3 drive and it works without a power supply and powers off the USB port.

PeterDuggan

monkeycork wrote: »

i can't record on a external hard drive.

Have you enough space on the drive.

Paul Kiernan

Well I just upgraded the software on mine and bricked it! Download seemed to go fine then got to 100% and screen went black. Left it a while and then tried power off/on but it's totally dead!

What do I do now?

Tony

When you powered on/off did you use the mains switch at the back of the box?

Paul Kiernan

Tony wrote: »

When you powered on/off did you use the mains switch at the back of the box?

Thanks, Tony. Yes, I switched off with the mains switch, left for a few seconds and switched back on. I got "- - - -" in the display but nothing else. I've just switched it on again after being off for about an hour and it's totally dead, nothing on the display and no power to the USB!

Tony

Ok the only thing I can suggest is using a null modem cable and the loader programme from ferguson. What frirmware file did you use to upgrade ?

Paul Kiernan

Tony wrote: »

Ok the only thing I can suggest is using a null modem cable and the loader programme from ferguson. What frirmware file did you use to upgrade ?

I had V2.13b? and I was upgrading to V2.17b3 using USB upgrade. I saved a dumpfile first and then attemped to upgrade using the "Allcode+bootloader" option. It said something like "bin file mismatch - do you want to proceed" and perhaps foolishly I said Yes.

I do have a null cable modem (9-pin D-type female both ends) so if I had the loader and the software I might be able to try that?

I bought from Satworld.ie so I could probably bring it back but probably easier for everybody if I could sort it out myself, assuming it's not faulty of course.

Thanks again, Paul

Tony

Well the guys at satworld are very helpful so I think that might be your easiest option if you explain to them what happened.

STB

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

I had V2.13b? and I was upgrading to V2.17b3 using USB upgrade. I saved a dumpfile first and then attemped to upgrade using the "Allcode+bootloader" option. It said something like "bin file mismatch - do you want to proceed" and perhaps foolishly I said Yes.

I do have a null cable modem (9-pin D-type female both ends) so if I had the loader and the software I might be able to try that?

I bought from Satworld.ie so I could probably bring it back but probably easier for everybody if I could sort it out myself, assuming it's not faulty of course.

Thanks again, Paul

Revival using a Null modem cable - sofware and instructions VERIFIED>
(important part - do not tick bootloader)

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74430278&postcount=1891

Also in this post the link to version of the firmware for the 120 is a little older. You can use the latest version from here (make sure you pick the version for your model!)

ftp://ftp2.ferguson.pl/ferguson

Paul Kiernan

Thanks, guys. Tried the null cable but the whole thing is completely dead. No display, no heat, no little "sparking" sound as you slowly switch it on:rolleyes:. I'd open it up and check for internal fuses but that'd invalidate the warranty so looks like it's back to Satworld. Will keep you posted.

Anchises

I have a 120 with latest firmware. Great box
A question I've had for a while - not critical but niggles me.

What does the 'lock' button do on the Channel list ?
I had expected that after selecting 'sort A->Z' , the lists would present it that sorted order if I then selected 'lock' .

It does not seem to 'lock' anything ??

Any thoughts on this ?



A.

Compton

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

Thanks, guys. Tried the null cable but the whole thing is completely dead. No display, no heat, no little "sparking" sound as you slowly switch it on:rolleyes:. I'd open it up and check for internal fuses but that'd invalidate the warranty so looks like it's back to Satworld. Will keep you posted.

Did you save the file yourself or get it from the internet?

Also are you sure you put in the file from the right box? Putting in a file from the wrong model can brick it, I done it once before and it had A5s on the screen got it fixed through RS232

Compton

Anchises wrote: »

I have a 120 with latest firmware. Great box
A question I've had for a while - not critical but niggles me.

What does the 'lock' button do on the Channel list ?
I had expected that after selecting 'sort A->Z' , the lists would present it that sorted order if I then selected 'lock' .

It does not seem to 'lock' anything ??

Any thoughts on this ?



A.

I presume its to lock in a channel when moving it around for your channel list.

foggy_lad

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

Thanks, guys. Tried the null cable but the whole thing is completely dead. No display, no heat, no little "sparking" sound as you slowly switch it on:rolleyes:. I'd open it up and check for internal fuses but that'd invalidate the warranty so looks like it's back to Satworld. Will keep you posted.

Have you checked the fuse in the plug?

Paul Kiernan

shblob wrote: »

Did you save the file yourself or get it from the internet?

Also are you sure you put in the file from the right box? Putting in a file from the wrong model can brick it, I done it once before and it had A5s on the screen got it fixed through RS232

Got everything from the Ferguson website. File was titled "A120Combo_20111207_V2.17B3.abs" so sounds OK:). It's a pretty foolproof procedure so I think my box must have been kyboshed.

dubber

A question for users: in terms of media file playback, how do people find the 120? Does it support MKVs etc.?

Johnboy1951

dubber wrote: »

A question for users: in terms of media file playback, how do people find the 120? Does it support MKVs etc.?

It supports

Video Containers: AVI, MKV, MPEG, MPG, VOB, TS, TRP, MP4, DVR

and in those containers, the following

Video Codecs: mpeg2, H.264
Audio Codecs: MP3, AAC, AC3

Paul Kiernan

foggy_lad wrote: »

Have you checked the fuse in the plug?

It came with a two pin plug (i.e. no fuse) and the socket is live so I presume if a fuse is gone it's an internal fuse for the power supply. Can't open box without invalidating warranty:rolleyes:.

Tony

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

It came with a two pin plug

You were not given a 3 pin adapter ?

Compton

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

It came with a two pin plug (i.e. no fuse) and the socket is live so I presume if a fuse is gone it's an internal fuse for the power supply. Can't open box without invalidating warranty:rolleyes:.

Have you brought it back yet?

STB

Tony wrote: »

You were not given a 3 pin adapter ?

Even the bloody retail shops aren't and they are demanding €125/145!

Compton

STB wrote: »

Even the bloody retail shops aren't and they are demanding €125/145!

Whenever I buy stuff from them I get one! And I've bought a few boxes

Was it bought in store?

STB

shblob wrote: »

Whenever I buy stuff from them I get one! And I've bought a few boxes

Was it bought in store?

The shops arent actually aware that they are 2 pin I gather.

I got one in a shop in Wexford. I didnt pay the 125 they were looking for though! And yes it was 2 pin only.

Tony

STB wrote: »

Even the bloody retail shops aren't and they are demanding €125/145!

Maybe i'm wrong but i thought it was a legal requirement?

Compton

I'm thinking if it was bought online they could have forgot to put one on..

Compton

Tony wrote: »

Maybe i'm wrong but i thought it was a legal requirement?

Is it? I got a TV in Harvey Norman before with a 2 pin plug!

STB

Tony wrote: »

Maybe i'm wrong but i thought it was a legal requirement?

It is.

But its being missed firstly by the wholesaler (is it Armstrongs or Ferguson direct?). Because they are boxed Tony and it isnt evident til you open the box. Lots of people arent going back I would imagine punters and are using a pen.

Also the boxes being shipped with cordsets from Poland are C,D configuration power supplies and do have ROHS and CE certification but they are intended for Poland of course. They should be shipped instead to Ireland and UK with J type configuration.

One for Ferguson Poland.

Tony

Armtrongs don't sell them . As far as I know myself (I use a logistics group) and satworld are the only ones who bring in pallet loads . We buy the adapters separately and add them here.

Paul Kiernan

No, I didn't get an adapter which surprised me as it is a legal requirement.

I bought it online from Satworld.ie and it was delivered by post (courier?). Surprisingly it had the stations tuned in but had the old V2.13 software. Surely one would expect both to be updated or none?

I haven't brought it back yet (haven't had a chance, hopefully over the next few days).

Compton

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

No, I didn't get an adapter which surprised me as it is a legal requirement.

I bought it online from Satworld.ie and it was delivered by post (courier?). Surprisingly it had the stations tuned in but had the old V2.13 software. Surely one would expect both to be updated or none?

I haven't brought it back yet (haven't had a chance, hopefully over the next few days).

Sure go in there and Im sure they'll sort you out, sound lads in there.

Tony

shblob wrote: »

Sure go in there and Im sure they'll sort you out, sound lads in there.

+1

Johnboy1951

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Last time I checked you can turn off the automatic pause in the settings which *should* stop the USB stick from being constantly accessed, while still allowing Pause to work ...... it just won't have the few previous seconds.

The main point is ...... if the USB stick is being constantly accessed, which hopefully may be indicated by a LED on the stick, then it will get damaged rather quickly.

So I strongly recommend that you turn off, whatever needs to be turned off, in the settings to ensure this constant access does not happen.

An external HDD is the better option ..... but make sure it has its own power supply and is not dependent on the USB socket to power it.

regards.

Hi
I purchased one of these boxes off Tony today, Will a standard 2.5 Inch HDD not work solely off the USB port on the box ?
Has anybody tried a external drive without a power supply ??

dodzy

Deleted User wrote: »

Hi
I purchased one of these boxes off Tony today, Will a standard 2.5 Inch HDD not work solely off the USB port on the box ?
Has anybody tried a external drive without a power supply ??

Different success stories with usb powered drives. Much better with the larger drive externally powered.

Johnboy1951

Deleted User wrote: »

Hi
I purchased one of these boxes off Tony today, Will a standard 2.5 Inch HDD not work solely off the USB port on the box ?
Has anybody tried a external drive without a power supply ??

Yes some have .... both with success and failure.

Up to you really ...... the device manual tells you explicitly to use HDDs that have their own power supply.

I would suggest that would be the route to follow both to protect the small PSU providing power to the USB socket and to ensure you have the best chance of reliable recording.

cuculainn

Hi quick question I have the 120 box (got from satellite.ie)when I use epg it gives full listings for terrestrial channels but nothing for the free to air channels. Is there a reason for this or is there a way to fix? Thanks

Johnboy1951

cuculainn wrote: »

Hi quick question I have the 120 box (got from satellite.ie)when I use epg it gives full listings for terrestrial channels but nothing for the free to air channels. Is there a reason for this or is there a way to fix? Thanks

It should give Now and Next for Satellite channels .......

cuculainn

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

It should give Now and Next for Satellite channels .......

Yeah thats what I thought.....but the EPG for all the sat channels is empty. Any solutions?

Apogee

cuculainn wrote: »

Yeah thats what I thought.....but the EPG for all the sat channels is empty. Any solutions?

You have to click on a channel first for the 'now and next' info to load up for that channel (and for any other channel on the same transponder).