Ferguson Ariva 120 Users Thread

Strawberry HillBilly · 14-01-2012 12:49pm

ARIVA 120 and F1 in 2012 ?
Is there any way to combine radio commentary e.g. Radio5L with tv pictures e.g. RTL on 19e for up and coming F1 season

Paul Kiernan · 14-01-2012 6:28pm

shblob wrote: »

Sure go in there and Im sure they'll sort you out, sound lads in there.

Brought the box back and they sorted it out. They said I put the wrong software on it. I put file from Ferguson website called "A120Combo_20111207_V2.17B3.abs". Must be for something else.

They couldn't explain why the null modem cable wouldn't work for me (as that's what they used to fix it!).

They said there would be no charge this time but if it happened again it would cost me €20 to fix. The version of software they put on is V2.14b4, dated June 2011. I'm now afraid to try and update it again so I'm stuck with the old software.

I'm sorry I bought it at all and especially from Satworld.ie:(

Compton · 15-01-2012 2:19am

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

Brought the box back and they sorted it out. They said I put the wrong software on it. I put file from Ferguson website called "A120Combo_20111207_V2.17B3.abs". Must be for something else.

They couldn't explain why the null modem cable wouldn't work for me (as that's what they used to fix it!).

They said there would be no charge this time but if it happened again it would cost me €20 to fix. The version of software they put on is V2.14b4, dated June 2011. I'm now afraid to try and update it again so I'm stuck with the old software.

I'm sorry I bought it at all and especially from Satworld.ie:(

So basically you bricked the box by putting the wrong firmware in it, tried to fix it with the null modem cable and failed. If you did everything right it wouldn't have gotten bricked, right?

you brought it back, they fixed it, with a null modem cable and didn't charge you, for bricking it

and you still complain? no pleasing some people huh

Tony · 15-01-2012 12:36pm

shblob wrote: »

So basically you bricked the box by putting the wrong firmware in it,

To be fair the firmware listed is the correct one.

Paul Kiernan · 15-01-2012 12:57pm

shblob wrote: »

and you still complain? no pleasing some people huh

The box I was originally supplied with (with the V2.13 software) was simply not fit for purpose. It did not reliably record programs. It crashed on numerous occasions requiring a full power off/on to restore it. I think if any retailer is supplying equipment in this condition, they should co-operate and help their customers as much as possible in getting the box working with the most reliable, stable, software. So, no, I'm not pleased.

Sam Russell · 15-01-2012 3:07pm

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

The box I was originally supplied with (with the V2.13 software) was simply not fit for purpose. It did not reliably record programs. It crashed on numerous occasions requiring a full power off/on to restore it. I think if any retailer is supplying equipment in this condition, they should co-operate and help their customers as much as possible in getting the box working with the most reliable, stable, software. So, no, I'm not pleased.

They did.

Paul Kiernan · 15-01-2012 3:18pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

They did.

On what basis do you judge the V2.14 software (dated June 2011) is more reliable and stable than the V2.17 (dated December 2011)?

Sam Russell · 15-01-2012 10:10pm

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

On what basis do you judge the V2.14 software (dated June 2011) is more reliable and stable than the V2.17 (dated December 2011)?

You arrived with a brick and took home a working box with no charge. I would be happy with that service. Next job is to upgrade the software to the latest version.

comet · 17-01-2012 10:18pm

Trying to understand something.
Yesterday I was recording BBC and I was able to bring up the PVR and playback another recording at the same time.
Tonight I try to do the same thing and nothing happens when I hit the USB/PVR button

Compton · 17-01-2012 11:03pm

Tony wrote: »

To be fair the firmware listed is the correct one.

Thats correct, but if Paul isn't competent enough to fix the box by rs232 then I wouldn;t be surprised if he can't upgrade the box, nothing personal, but whenever I upgrade boxes usually they don't get bricked if you put the right soft in them !

Strawberry HillBilly · 17-01-2012 11:03pm

Apologies -I asked this question over on Foreign Sat forum with no takers so hopin you guys mights help.Anyway to get this box to combine english commentary (BBC radio ??) with RTL video for upcoming F1 season ??????

khumbu · 17-01-2012 11:27pm

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Anyway to get this box to combine english commentary (BBC radio ??) with RTL video for upcoming F1 season ??????

Only if you have two of them! One tuned to RTL & one tuned to BBC. Audio out of BBC box & RGB/video out of RTL combined into one scart connected to tv.

Paul Kiernan · 18-01-2012 12:56am

shblob wrote: »

Thats correct, but if Paul isn't competent enough to fix the box by rs232 then I wouldn;t be surprised if he can't upgrade the box, nothing personal, but whenever I upgrade boxes usually they don't get bricked if you put the right soft in them !

Well, I followed the instructions for upgrading from the USB to the letter and it failed. Those instructions, at least, are reasonably clear. Maybe there's a fault on my box which causes this to fail.

The instructions for using the RS232 cable are a lot more ambiguous. On top of that, I don't even know if my COM port on the PC is working properly as I have nothing else to verify it with. I could possibly have run a dumb terminal program on the PC to see what, if anything, the box was outputting during it's boot sequence but there didn't seem much point. It seemed to be as dead as the proverbial dodo.

Snark · 18-01-2012 2:43pm

Thinking of the IOMEGA Home Media Network Hard Drive Cloud Edition as a hard drive to use with the Ariva 120.

What I want
1. Being able to use record tv from ariva 120 to hard disk
2. Being able to use media player software (on the hard disk) - so it can be used separately, on another tv, etc.
3. remote control for media hard drive.

Is this a goer? If not - any reccomendations on a media hard drive that will work with Ariva?

tfrancer · 18-01-2012 9:45pm

ON my Ariva 120 I sometimes get Sky News and other times there is no signal. Have others had this problem?

scobay · 27-01-2012 11:41pm

What version of software should we be using on the 120 then? I was basicaly told not to upgrade software by the salesman in Satworld mine is on v2.14b4 ? also where to get reliable firmware for his box?

dodzy · 28-01-2012 1:50am

scobay wrote: »

What version of software should we be using on the 120 then? I was basicaly told not to upgrade software by the salesman in Satworld mine is on v2.14b4 ? also where to get reliable firmware for his box?

I do not understand why people are fixated on having the latest firmware on this thing. For the moment, and most likely the distant future, if your ariva is working fine, then leave it alone.

scobay · 28-01-2012 10:10am

Fixation has nothing to do with it, if a unit has updated firmware its usually for a reason, bugs fixed, extra features, stability. Manufacturers dont update firmware for the good of their health. If anybody has more productive info or input please answer my previous question thanks.

discobrother1 · 28-01-2012 7:09pm

Hi Guys- I have an ariva 120 thats displaying the word ASH on its oled. Ive tried numerous times with the Aiva updater tool (different versions) using a null modem cable to flash the firmware but to no avail. Still im getting ASh on the front of the STB and nothing outputting to the tv via HDMI. This box was working fine for months but just died yesterday. It was bought from Satworld if that matters. Any ideas. Then updater goes through the process to the end and confirms that it has flashed the stb but still i have the dreaded ASH!!

St Senan · 28-01-2012 7:23pm

discobrother1 wrote: »

Hi Guys- I have an ariva 120 thats displaying the word ASH on its oled. Ive tried numerous times with the Aiva updater tool (different versions) using a null modem cable to flash the firmware but to no avail. Still im getting ASh on the front of the STB and nothing outputting to the tv via HDMI. This box was working fine for months but just died yesterday. It was bought from Satworld if that matters. Any ideas. Then updater goes through the process to the end and confirms that it has flashed the stb but still i have the dreaded ASH!!

Have you tried connecting the Receiver through scart to the TV to see what's on the Screen.

Tony · 29-01-2012 2:01am

I'm afraid it sounds very much like the flash memory problem I've been seeing.

discobrother1 wrote: »

Hi Guys- I have an ariva 120 thats displaying the word ASH on its oled. Ive tried numerous times with the Aiva updater tool (different versions) using a null modem cable to flash the firmware but to no avail. Still im getting ASh on the front of the STB and nothing outputting to the tv via HDMI. This box was working fine for months but just died yesterday. It was bought from Satworld if that matters. Any ideas. Then updater goes through the process to the end and confirms that it has flashed the stb but still i have the dreaded ASH!!

dodzy · 29-01-2012 10:30am

scobay wrote: »

Fixation has nothing to do with it, if a unit has updated firmware its usually for a reason, bugs fixed, extra features, stability. Manufacturers dont update firmware for the good of their health. If anybody has more productive info or input please answer my previous question thanks.

Agreed, under normal circumstances. However, if you had read the complete thread, you would have came across numerous issues people have run into with the update process. And with the exception of the lip sync issue, there have been no improvements with following updates that i am aware of. In this instance " if its not broken, dont fix it......" really applies.

Ronnie Raygun · 29-01-2012 12:29pm

scobay wrote: »

... If anybody has more productive info or input please answer my previous question thanks.

Yes sir! Mr. 10 Posts in 10 years, right away sir!

chordtype · 29-01-2012 10:58pm

Anyone know the frequency for Sky Box Office 2 HD? Is it one of the 'ch-numbers' one?

NUTZZ · 29-01-2012 11:14pm

chordtype wrote: »

Anyone know the frequency for Sky Box Office 2 HD? Is it one of the 'ch-numbers' one?

PM'd

STB · 30-01-2012 12:14am

scobay wrote: »

Fixation has nothing to do with it, if a unit has updated firmware its usually for a reason, bugs fixed, extra features, stability. Manufacturers dont update firmware for the good of their health. If anybody has more productive info or input please answer my previous question thanks.

Not necessarily.

This box is primarily aimed at Poland for start. Sometimes the fixes are for problems related to 19.2, certain polish/czech DVB-T etc.

Firmware updating is a fixation for some people !

Shazam! · 31-01-2012 6:35pm

Is 7 day EPG possible with the Ariva 120 on Freesat? I am looking to purchase a second box but preferrably something with two DVB-S inputs and a Terrestrial input. Any suggestions from experience or what to avoid. Dreambox, Vu+, etc?

Tony · 31-01-2012 6:50pm

Shazam! wrote: »

Is 7 day EPG possible with the Ariva 120 on Freesat?

No only official freesat boxes and some linux boxes have this.

Compton · 31-01-2012 10:09pm

and sky boxes.

Tony · 31-01-2012 10:14pm

shblob wrote: »

and sky boxes.

Must disagree Sky boxes do not have a freesat 7 day epg but can we get back to talking about the 120 please.

Strawberry HillBilly · 31-01-2012 10:31pm

Internet functionality ? Apart from obvious which we cannot talk about - anyone finding any use / interesting with internet functionality on this box ?

NUTZZ · 31-01-2012 10:54pm

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Internet functionality ? Apart from obvious which we cannot talk about - anyone finding any use / interesting with internet functionality on this box ?

It has the weather! :pac:

SnowDust · 31-01-2012 11:59pm

Had mine 5 days & then tonight I noticed 'ASH' on the display. All functions from the remote & the box froze so I turned her off/on & now it's completely dead.

Sounds like ashes to ashes to me, if anyone out there has a solution then please feel free to comment.....

Compton · 01-02-2012 12:23am

These boxes seem to be extremely reliable, mines been faulty twice.

SnowDust · 01-02-2012 2:56am

oxymoron

NUTZZ · 01-02-2012 3:10am

shblob wrote: »

These boxes seem to be extremely reliable, mines been faulty twice.

SnowDust wrote: »

oxymoron

The following statement is true; the preceding statement is false

Problem? :pac:

barrybones_wx · 01-02-2012 4:22pm

Thanks to you all for advice here, got one of these bad boys from Tony back in May for the Champions League final in HD and it's worked a treat. Anyway... long time reader, first time poster sort of thing...

It's a pest have to rescan and input channels only for them to randomly vanish (Channel 4HD, BBC News & Parliament, France 24 just off the top of my head have come and gone and come and gone again...). Just wondering if the channel list here http://www.mediafire.com/?c9ag85vxi0ba0sv is the most uptodate file?

&

Should I be able to get the other Channel 5 channels like 5* & 5USA? or is that only on the FreetoAir boxes or something?

Tony · 01-02-2012 4:27pm

barrybones_wx wrote: »

Should I be able to get the other Channel 5 channels like 5* & 5USA? or is that only on the FreetoAir boxes or something?

Yes you should, heres my latest firmware and list , make sure you read the "how to "

http://www.mediafire.com/?wytvbjo36pfr062

http://www.mediafire.com/?ji0kdvqodn3v07i

Strawberry HillBilly · 01-02-2012 9:55pm

NUTZZ wrote: »

It has the weather! :pac:

Great - get to see how cold its got in Krakow !!! Anything else useful ?

Johnboy1951 · 02-02-2012 7:06pm

barrybones_wx wrote: »

Thanks to you all for advice here, got one of these bad boys from Tony back in May for the Champions League final in HD and it's worked a treat. Anyway... long time reader, first time poster sort of thing...

It's a pest have to rescan and input channels only for them to randomly vanish (Channel 4HD, BBC News & Parliament, France 24 just off the top of my head have come and gone and come and gone again...). Just wondering if the channel list here http://www.mediafire.com/?c9ag85vxi0ba0sv is the most uptodate file?

&

Should I be able to get the other Channel 5 channels like 5* & 5USA? or is that only on the FreetoAir boxes or something?

I ended up doing a blind scan and then spending a couple of hours deleting unwanted channels and sorting the remaining ones.

I had at first used a file that one of the guys kindly posted here, but found it easier to do the whole thing myself ...... so only my choices were left, and nothing I actually wanted was missing.

I am happy I did now, although it was a bit of a hassle at first.

PeterDuggan · 03-02-2012 12:58am

Can anybody tell me please what's the frequency, etc for France24? Thanks.

Paul Kiernan · 03-02-2012 10:26am

PeterDuggan wrote: »

Can anybody tell me please what's the frequency, etc for France24? Thanks.

According to Lyngsat it's at 11426 V 27500 2/3. The update is dated Nov. '11 so maybe it's moved again?

It's also shown in DVB-S2 (MPEG4) at 12552 V if you have a suitable (HD?) receiver.

micks_address · 03-02-2012 11:03am

hi guys,

set up one of these last night, have some mkvs on external hard drive and they play back but get 'unsupported audio codec' with them. Ones with dolby digital work fine - but i have some with DTS audio - any way to play the via the ariva without transcoding?

Cheers,
Mick

Onikage · 03-02-2012 12:33pm

Is it possible to download some kind of xml epg from the net through the ethernet connection? That would be incredibly useful

PeterDuggan · 03-02-2012 1:33pm

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

According to Lyngsat it's at 11426 V 27500 2/3. The update is dated Nov. '11 so maybe it's moved again?

It's also shown in DVB-S2 (MPEG4) at 12552 V if you have a suitable (HD?) receiver.

Thanks Paul. I'm not getting it on either. Are you (or anyone?) receiving it on these or other frequencies?

NUTZZ · 03-02-2012 1:46pm

Onikage wrote: »

Is it possible to download some kind of xml epg from the net through the ethernet connection? That would be incredibly useful

Unfortunately not unlike some Linux based receivers.

NUTZZ · 03-02-2012 1:47pm

PeterDuggan wrote: »

Thanks Paul. I'm not getting it on either. Are you (or anyone?) receiving it on these or other frequencies?

Yes, 11426 V 27500 2/3 is the frequency for France 24, are you scanning all satellites?

Johnboy1951 · 03-02-2012 3:08pm

micks_address wrote: »

hi guys,

set up one of these last night, have some mkvs on external hard drive and they play back but get 'unsupported audio codec' with them. Ones with dolby digital work fine - but i have some with DTS audio - any way to play the via the ariva without transcoding?

Cheers,
Mick

No, there is a limited set of codecs supported ..... specified in the manual ..... as well as a number of container formats which are also specified.

So a little work would be needed ..... but if the video is copied and the audio transcoded that should not take a lot of time.

dixiefly · 04-02-2012 9:04am

Guys,
I have an Edision Argus 2-in-1 IP combo. I find it very good technically but there is very little information on updates etc and a lot of it i German etc. I also think the colours are better on the Humax (though not certain as I didnt do a direct comparison).

Anyone compare the Ferguson with the Edision? - thinking of getting another combo & not certain which option to go for,

donnacha · 04-02-2012 6:07pm

Tony wrote: »

Yes you should, heres my latest firmware and list , make sure you read the "how to "

http://www.mediafire.com/?wytvbjo36pfr062

http://www.mediafire.com/?ji0kdvqodn3v07i

lads - just updated the fathers box with this abs but i've lost all irish channels - only seems to have astra 2a in the channel list. what step have i missed?

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