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The Official After Hours Presidential Election Thread **POLL RESET 23/10**

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    #602
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    MungBean wrote: »
    Will you be voting Dana or Mary ?

    Mary has no chance at all. Dana is my choice but I'm not sure yet, I need to see more from her. I felt micky D was to old but watching him tonight he is still up there and knows his stuff.


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    #603
    MungBean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    hondasam wrote: »
    I think he will do well enough and yes it will be close.
    I cannot see Norris in the last three.

    It will be Norris, McGuinness and Michael D. Cant see Gallagher doing as well as those and the rest are non runners as far as I see.


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    #604
    gigino
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    He also praised certain unionists for being peacemakers.
    Better late than never that he recognises the unionists are peacemakers ....but it was cheap spin designed to win votes. He sniped at their communities for long enough and there is still distrust there. The 2 main unionist parties were always peacemakers , relatively speaking ; it was McGuinness PIRA organisation which were the people who were the cutting edge in the " armed struggle" / breaking the peace by planting bombs, kidnapping + disappearing people, putting devices under cars , robbing banks etc.


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    #605
    farna_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭farna_boy


    hondasam wrote: »
    Mary has no chance at all. Dana is my choice but I'm not sure yet, I need to see more from her. I felt micky D was to old but watching him tonight he is still up there and knows his stuff.

    Out of interest, would you have voted for or considered voting for Gay Byrne if he was running?


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    #606
    MungBean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    hondasam wrote: »
    Mary has no chance at all. Dana is my choice but I'm not sure yet, I need to see more from her. I felt micky D was to old but watching him tonight he is still up there and knows his stuff.

    He did come across as someone who knows his stuff but in fairness he didnt have attacks launched on him like the others.


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    #607
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    farna_boy wrote: »
    Out of interest, would you have voted for or considered voting for Gay Byrne if he was running?

    Not a chance.


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    #608
    farna_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭farna_boy


    hondasam wrote: »
    Not a chance.

    Would his age have come in to it or just his personality?


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    #609
    siltirocker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    That TV3 opinion poll has just confirmed my notion that Norris support is blind. How anyone thought he came 2nd in that is beyond me when in my humble opinion he was infact woeful.

    I know one or two might think in the last day or two I have been attacking Norris. I would also go on about Dana & Mitchell but the world isn't blind to their nonsense so I don't feel the need to highlight it.

    As I have asked MANY times on boards (with zero responses yet); can anyone tell me anything of note about Norris? (And don't play the 'Norris v Ireland' card - anyone with a brain and a bit of research can recall his role was less than 10% of Robinson's even McAleese's in that).


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    #610
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    farna_boy wrote: »
    Would his age have come in to it or just his personality?

    Personality only.


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    #611
    farna_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭farna_boy


    hondasam wrote: »
    Personality only.

    So why is Michael D too old at 70 and it is not a factor for Gay Byrne when he is already 77?


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    #612
    gigino
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    siltirocker wrote: »
    can anyone tell me anything of note about Norris?
    easier to say what he's not ; he is not a reformed terrorist ( who arrived at the late late studios last Friday in a BMW X5 and says he'll live on € 30k a year - that euro, not northern bank notes per year ) and he is not a warbling croaking god-botherer. Neither did he serve on government boards like the special olympics and get 155k a year for that.


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    #613
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    farna_boy wrote: »
    So why is Michael D too old at 70 and it is not a factor for Gay Byrne when he is already 77?

    I said I thought he was to old and Gay Byrne is not a candidate and no point in discussing him.


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    #614
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    gigino wrote: »
    easier to say what he's not ;

    Suitable for the role of President.


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    #615
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    hondasam wrote: »
    Mary has no chance at all. Dana is my choice but I'm not sure yet, I need to see more from her. I felt micky D was to old but watching him tonight he is still up there and knows his stuff.

    If you vote for Dana who would get your number 2 Sam?


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    #616
    efb
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    strobe wrote: »
    If you vote for Dana who would get your number 2 Sam?

    Jesus?


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    #617
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    strobe wrote: »
    If you vote for Dana who would get your number 2 Sam?

    I always tick all the boxes but last election I did number 1 only.
    I think I might do the same this time but again I have not made up my mind.
    I will say Norris, McGuinness,would not get anything from me.The others I might consider.


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    #618
    gigino
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    scrap the role of president and the tens of millions we are borrowing this year alone for same. We cannot afford it.


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    #619
    strobe
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    MungBean wrote: »
    I think he's one of three people who stand a chance of winning it. Nobody will run away with it.

    I think Marty's problem is going to be transfers. A lot of people will vote him in at number one for various reasons but for people unconvinced enough to 1 him it's likely only a very very small number of the rest will drop him a 2. I think he has to win outright to have any hope of taking it and I think it's unlikely any candidate will do that, the votes too spread.


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    #620
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gigino wrote: »
    scrap the role of president and the tens of millions we are borrowing this year alone for same. We cannot afford it.
    I think it costs about 2.5m pa to run the presidency


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    #621
    gigino
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    dvpower wrote: »
    I think it costs about 2.5m pa to run the presidency
    are'nt they spending 21 million on posting election literature this year alone.

    The budget decefit this year has increased to 21 billion ! ....all of which is being borrowed. As Geldof used to sing, "Banana republic..."


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    #622
    Peep O'Day
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    gigino wrote: »
    The 2 main unionist parties were always peacemakers

    That is a fucking disgusting lie and complete revisionism but it is what one would come to expect from someone like you. Absolute horseshit of the highest degree.


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    #623
    cosanostra
    Registered Users Posts: 878 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15176437

    Gay Mitchell should apologies to MMG now he has published his bank details showing his income and expenditure


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    #624
    UnitedIrishman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Peep O'Day wrote: »
    That is a fucking disgusting lie and complete revisionism but it is what one would come to expect from someone like you. Absolute horseshit of the highest degree.

    Easy tiger.


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    #625
    KeithAFC
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    lol at Vincents books in regards to Martin Mcguinness.


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    #626
    General General
    Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    General General wrote: »
    1. Norris is just doing what everyone else does in politics. He's even said it himself. Fair enough. Why vote for him or defend him?...unless you want to look like those 'Arise & follow Charlie' yokels or defenders-of-da-Bertie/Pee/you-pick.

    2. Yer man & Norris are no longer in a relationship... I wonder how long after those citizenship papers came through passed before the old "not you, it's me" record got played. If this was a Senator pleading/outraging on whether citizenship will be granted his hot bit of stuff female 'partner' from North Africa (shades of Silvio)... & then when she got citizenship, the relationship ended, he'd be a laughing stock, irrespective of what the 'true story behind it all' was.

    3. This letters thing won't go away until he stops rearranging his excuse like it's a kind of anagram & publishes.

    4. What hasn't been revealed yet? If these newspapers are acting as scummy as some say, then it'll be very clear by polling day... however, I'd sooner we see any new revelations before the election, rather than face a ridiculous crisis any time after it.

    5. Either way, the post is fairly unimportant in the day-to-day (except the whole separation of powers thing which matters less & less since Lisbon 2), we should be pressing that all candidates accept a substantially lower wage/expenses/etc. - & I would like clarification on this fund Norris has mentioned (which seems a step in the right direction), especially regarding the associated pension.

    I don't quote myself often... however, I've got to 'update' on points 4 & 5;

    WTF? Is/was he on DA while getting Senator's gravy? if so, then I'm sure he'll get in, as he'd "understand" the plight of those "scraping by" on a "state payment" (or should that be a "paltry state payment"?)... &, rightly so too, for if this DA story is true, he defo' won't need the salary, as he'd be well used to making ends meet on a much lower income... PLUS, if this "dirt" "dug up" by a press that theoretically should reveal this kind of thing is true, then we can send him over to EU HQ, assured that whatever we are "entitled" to, he'll find out about.

    TL;DR: Norris is a man of the people & will be sure to fish us a couple of hundred billion that we didn't even know we were entitled to apply for under EU regulations.


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    #627
    General General
    Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    gigino wrote: »
    are'nt they spending 21 million on posting election literature this year alone.

    The budget decefit this year has increased to 21 billion ! ....all of which is being borrowed. As Geldof used to sing, "Banana republic..."

    You're not seeing the big picture... think of all the postive publicity we are getting & will get, going forward, internationally... yeah, it pays to think outside of the box.


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    #628
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    General General wrote: »
    You're not seeing the big picture... think of all the postive publicity we are getting & will get, going forward, internationally... yeah, it pays to think outside of the box.

    Or in Michael D's case it pays to stand on the box ;)


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    #629
    Sonnenblumen
    Registered Users Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    If Norris had any dignity, he would not have ran in the election.

    You know about dignity?


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    #630
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    cosanostra wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15176437

    Gay Mitchell should apologies to MMG now he has published his bank details showing his income and expenditure

    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #631
    UnitedIrishman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    The election very simply is coming down to a process of elimination -

    Dana - just no. All kinds of nothing.
    Sean Gallagher - no genuine experience, full of soundbytes and cliches.
    Mary Davis - no.
    Gay Mitchell - I'm starting to think he is only in the election to try stop McGuinness. Can't stop thinking of Bimbo Reeves from The Van when I look at him.

    Leaves us with Norris - who can't shake off this 'letters' problem and now a new set of problems with the benefits claims; McGuinness - who I can't actually believe is running in this election when he was head of an organisation that was responsible for deaths this side of the border and as far as I'm concerned is a criminal; and Michael D. who, despite me knowing little about, seems to be fairly sharp on his politics and constitution.

    Would prefer if there was a younger, possibly more innovative candidate but Michael D. is looking like the only possible option given the rest of the pack.


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