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The Official After Hours Presidential Election Thread **POLL RESET 23/10**

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    #152
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    If any man raped me I'd be traumatised tho


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    #153
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Rookster wrote: »
    Norris is a total bluffer and bull****ter! Very dishonest in the crap about not releasing the letters. He said he will abide by the law. Pity he did'nt think about that before writing those letters.

    What law did he break???


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    #154
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    flanzer wrote: »
    SF had a massive chance at the time of the the Queen's visit to fully support the visit and didn't. It was a chance to somewhat reconcile their own relationship with London and failed miserably.

    For that, MMG won't be getting my vote
    SF say a lot of things. Most of it is nonsense. Anyone who seriously thinks SF really want a Truth and Reconciliation programme are kidding themselves. SF are the perfect example of the boy who cried wolf.

    And you will never get the full truth anyway. Gerry Adams is never going to tell the truth.


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    #155
    _feedback_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Vincent Brownes take on things...

    Vinny has big history in what has gone on up there. There are so many people in positions that should know/have known who was the main man in the IRA.

    They all say it was McGuinness. He still denies it this morning... He's full of shít.


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    #156
    up for anything
    Registered Users Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Personally, I couldn't listen to David Norris' whiney, nasal, glottal stoppy voice for longer than 5 seconds without wanting to silence him in any way possible.


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    #157
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    lol, serious facepalm
    Well in fairness what does mmg know about contemporary life in the 26 counties. He dosnt live here and never has. All his life has been intensely focused on the 6 counties. I'd prefer a president who understans the mood of the people here.
    I live im th 26, I dont have a notion about the people in the 6. They have their own government, money, traditions...they are foreign to me.


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    #158
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    up for anything wrote: »
    Personally, I couldn't listen to David Norris' whiney, nasal, glottal stoppy voice for longer than 5 seconds without wanting to silence him in any way possible.

    He might enjoy it ;-)


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    #159
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    He believed Ezra believed the 15 year old was actually 16 - i.e. over the age of consent. And as for 'buggery' a) no one was ever charged with sodomy (is this considered a crime in Israel?) b) How do you now they engaged in anal intercourse? Not all gay men do - and quite a few heterosexuals do...

    Rape requires intercourse to occur. Otherwise its sexual assault. And unless 15 year old Isreali boys have vaginas then anal sex is all it could have been.
    efb wrote: »
    It was as it was proven to contravene natural law- so all statutory rape convictions were expunged

    No. It was considered to be unfair as it did not allow for a defence of reasonable mistake. It's still an offence and it had nothing to do with natural law.
    efb wrote: »
    7 letters, now 8??? He must have worn out his typewriter

    It was probably a state owned typewriter anyway. He didn't even splash out on the paper.


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    #160
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Boston Substantial Searcher wrote: »
    I like it, he's amusing.

    I wish he hadn't wrote those letter's.

    I've met him a few times and he has been very warm, very friendly.. A really nice man.

    But look we must take things in today's context.

    The war in the north of Ireland is over. The IRA have decommissioned and SF have moved into main stream politics, they've embraced peace in Ireland and even went so far as to share power with the unionists and continue to do so today.

    But writing letters pleading for clemency in the case of Norris just can not be excused, even today post Ryan report and other reports on child abuse in this country.

    Norris says he regrets writing those letters, I'd say he damn well does..

    I've a number two perference, I'd like to see the contents of the latest revelations of six undisclosed letters.

    At this very early stage I'd say we're looking at either Higgins or Norris through transfer's of first and second perference votes.



    So murdering innocent children and Gardai can be excused, but having consentual sex with someone underage can't be? That's some might fine logic there.


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    #161
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Rape requires intercourse to occur. Otherwise its sexual assault. And unless 15 year old Isreali boys have vaginas then anal sex is all it could have been.



    No. It was considered to be unfair as it did not allow for a defence of reasonable mistake. It's still an offence and it had nothing to do with natural law.



    It was probably a state owned typewriter anyway. He didn't even splash out on the paper.

    That would be a bit unseemly...


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    #162
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Rape requires intercourse to occur. Otherwise its sexual assault. And unless 15 year old Isreali boys have vaginas then anal sex is all it could have been.



    No. It was considered to be unfair as it did not allow for a defence of reasonable mistake. It's still an offence and it had nothing to do with natural law.



    It was probably a state owned typewriter anyway. He didn't even splash out on the paper.

    Statutory Rape is gone- unlawful carnal knowledge of a minor


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    #163
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Undecided at the moment but I'm leaning towards Norris.


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    #164
    Liam Byrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    I have to laugh at all the "he's good enough for Northern Ireland" crap - the North was offered other options and refused them.


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    #165
    tonycascarino
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    I have a mind of my own and won't be going along with the Dublin media who want David Norris. Voting McGuinness.


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    #166
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    efb wrote: »
    Statutory Rape is gone- unlawful carnal knowledge of a minor

    Same crime, just renamed.


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    #167
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    MagicSean wrote: »
    efb wrote: »
    Statutory Rape is gone- unlawful carnal knowledge of a minor

    Same crime, just renamed.

    It's not Statatory- that's the point!


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    #168
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    efb wrote: »
    It's not Statatory- that's the point!
    Pronunciation:/ˈstatjʊt(ə)ri, -tʃʊ-/
    adjective
    required, permitted, or enacted by statute:
    statutory controls over prices
    having come to be required or expected through being done or made regularly:
    the statutory Christmas phone call to his mother

    Dunno 'bout that.

    Once I was stopped by the guards for speeding. Gard informed me that I was driving ten miles per hour faster than was allowed on that stretch of road. I received a slap on the wrist and sent on my way.

    That is the only time I have ever broken the speed limit in all my years of driving..............:rolleyes:


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    #169
    cosmicfart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭cosmicfart


    Im gonna arse wiped my voting paper, there maybe one lucky candidate who gets my shít


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    #170
    MitchKoobski
    Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    No, but there is a sizable portion who are happy electing a man who's hands drip with the blood of the innocent
    Gay Mitchell?


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    #171
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    David Norris sounds like a very, very upperclass Englishman.

    If he's president, that'll REALLY confuse a lot of yanks. :D


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    #172
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    I'm going for Norris. Higgins gets number 2. Reckon both would make good presidents.


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    #173
    FetchTheGin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭FetchTheGin


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    I have to laugh at all the "he's good enough for Northern Ireland" crap - the North was offered other options and refused them.

    Like what?


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    #174
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    I'm going for Norris. Higgins gets number 2. Reckon both would make good presidents.

    My golden bollox they would.

    Higgins will rile up the Americans because he can't keep his snout out of Middle east affairs(provided someone else pays the bill).

    Little gnome was over in Colombia recently too, who paid that bill?

    Be very careful about that little lepreachaun, way too fond of himself and expenses for this poster.

    Only in it for the travel and expenses.


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    #175
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Voting for Norris.


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    #176
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Voted Norris. Would have chosen a "Anyone buy MMG" option if there was any. Would prefer to vote for M. Davis but I don't think she's a chance of challanging and I don't want MMG in.


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    #177
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    FetchTheGin wrote: »
    Like what?
    War. Martin Mcguinness wasn't accepted by all of the people in Northern Ireland. The government set up in N.I is a peace time government. It is completely different. Most Unionists would never vote for him or SF.


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    #178
    Richard
    Registered Users Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Richard


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    I have to laugh at all the "he's good enough for Northern Ireland" crap - the North was offered other options and refused them.

    Yeah, but it is difficult (although not impossible) to criticise MMG as being unsuitable for President given his role in NI. I think some southern politicians don't mind Sinn Fein being in high office, as long as it's not in the Republic.


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    #179
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    For me it's a process of elimination, it has to be the candidate least likely to embarrass our nation.

    Pathetic that we have no strong candidates.


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    #180
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users Posts: 45,476 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Not Norris anyway. Not after the letters scandal.


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    #181
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Woah, woah, woah woah...where's the Bobby Mugabe option? It isn't a proper AH election poll without him.


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