The Official After Hours Presidential Election Thread **POLL RESET 23/10**

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dooksgolf wrote: »

I'm wondering whether there are any boardies who have changed their mind re voting for gallagher as a result of what came to light during the Frontline program?

I was gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and give him a No. 2. Now he's getting nothing.

billymitchell

dooksgolf wrote: »

I'm wondering whether there are any boardies who have changed their mind re voting for gallagher as a result of what came to light during the Frontline program?

I'd say not many have, hardly any of them were going to vote for him in the first place

tonycascarino

To me Sean Gallagher is a spoofer of the highest order & has about as much charisma as a block of concrete.

dooksgolf

OK ,aside the boardies,do you think any of the 40% who were polling for him last w/e will have changed their mind?
BTW-I wouldn't touch him,MMG or Dana with a barge pole

Lord TSC

On a related note...has anyone had campaigners come to their door? I've had none, but a few leaflets. I found this last time with the general elections as well; has door to door campaigning gone at the wayside?

billybudd

seamus wrote: »

The accusation has been flying around since the start, but the anti-FF have had very little to pin him down on until Monday. Though to be fair to him, if he'd admitted to it then it would have done less damage than his stumbling and spluttering over it. He has said all along that he was previously a FF supporter, but no longer. So accusations of legitimate fundraising for FF in 2008 shouldn't have phased him.

Sorry should have clarified, was not talking about his dealings with FF, more his business dealings, he seems to be as confused as the rest of us over these multi accounts and resting monies etc, his FF past is nothing to much, he should have just admitted at from the start he was soliciting money for FF, maybe shameful but nothing wrong.

The state grants he recieved are another problem for him, why he took money from a company on its knees and why he was given grants when his business was obviously failing, these questions needed adequate answers and he could not give them.

PAULWATSON

I'd vote for BOSCO before any of these puppets.

Wolfe Tone

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

On a related note...has anyone had campaigners come to their door? I've had none, but a few leaflets. I found this last time with the general elections as well; has door to door campaigning gone at the wayside?

I've had no one come to my house in Drogheda either, got some in Dublin though.

billybudd

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

On a related note...has anyone had campaigners come to their door? I've had none, but a few leaflets. I found this last time with the general elections as well; has door to door campaigning gone at the wayside?

Depends where you live, working class areas are no go for alot of these parties now, part from the shinners.

Sir Oxman

billybudd wrote: »

Depends where you live, working class areas are no go for alot of these parties now, part from the shinners.

FG, SF and Labour here. Dublin CC

Lord TSC

I'm on the outskirts of Drogheda in one of the "nicer" estates and we've had no one whatsoever

Shame too. Some I'd love to have a go at. Hmm...maybe that's why they aren't coming.

seamus

dooksgolf wrote: »

OK ,aside the boardies,do you think any of the 40% who were polling for him last w/e will have changed their mind?
BTW-I wouldn't touch him,MMG or Dana with a barge pole

A sizeable proportion I think.

My gut feeling is that he got votes on the basis that Norris had collapsed, but the only other viable candidate was Michael D, who's a bit old and not independent. Gallagher seemed to provide a credible independent candidacy and mopped up those people who wanted a "least worst" candidate that isn't Michael D.

"Credible" and "independent" seems to have vanished for him. He'll probably still poll quite well, but I think Micheal D has it in the bag. Even if MDH doesn't come out strong at the start, he is the most likely to mop up the second preferences from all of the others.

Fluorescence

Out of curiosity, is it better to completely fill your polling card or just give preferences to candidates you approve of?

Morlar

fluorescence wrote: »

Out of curiosity, is it better to completely fill your polling card or just give preferences to candidates you approve of?

It depends who you are voting for. Pm Sent.

Lord TSC

fluorescence wrote: »

Out of curiosity, is it better to completely fill your polling card or just give preferences to candidates you approve of?

Thats a completly personal choice. Just remember that a low vote can still be used in transfers while no vote means no vote.

I reckon I'll fill out about 4.

Tea-a-Maria

Norris was out in UCD canvassing today.

The fact that the election is on a Thursday is ruling out a lot of student voters though,myself included.Who is it that decides the date of the election?

Morlar

Tea-a-Maria wrote: »

Norris was out in UCD canvassing today.

The fact that the election is on a Thursday is ruling out a lot of student voters though,myself included.Who is it that decides the date of the election?

The polls are open 7am till 10pm no ?

Wolfe Tone

Morlar wrote: »

The polls are open 7am till 10pm no ?

Yeah but it is a pain, a lot of guys are from places like Kerry, Donegal etc, I'm alright cause I just have to head to Drogheda, but a lot of students wont vote.

Lord TSC

Tea-a-Maria wrote: »

The fact that the election is on a Thursday is ruling out a lot of student voters though,myself included.Who is it that decides the date of the election?

There's ways to vote even if you live away from home like that. The fact it's on a Thursday isn't stopping you voting; it's the fact you didn't bother looking into and working on the ways to let you vote...

Fluorescence

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Thats a completly personal choice. Just remember that a low vote can still be used in transfers while no vote means no vote.

I reckon I'll fill out about 4.

I'm planning on marking 3, but was curious anyway Thanks!

charlemont

paddyandy wrote: »

We saw the rise of the Drug Problem in Ireland from it's Infancy to the present Epidemic rate under the Watchful eyes of the IRA and Sinn Fein who understood the problem well but did little more than a token effort to deal with the devastation of lives and families both sides of the border.They knew well the importance of staying on the side of the young involved in drugs and crime to support their habits and to play the 'deprived' card all the way.To patronise reckless behaviour is to hold favour with them and this they did while playing the game in the divide while working class estates degenerated to a stage where Sinn Fein played the Role of Good Cop to them.They became local Decision Makers in Housing and facilities and the game goes on today.We'll find out in the next few days how many of us understood what is really going on in Ireland not to mention all their other shadowy ways.
Sinn Fein/IRA HAD the Power and the Means to deal with the Problems but chose the Crafty Route on a street of coffins to an assumed Messianic Role in the South.....Well that is'nt gong to happen this time.

That's just pure rubbish, I suppose SF were involved in sexually abusing children on an industrial scale and putting young women into laundry's and putting a huge number of people into mental hospitals and drugging them up, No wait that was FF and the CC.

I personally blame Michael MacDowell for Cork City's Heroin problem and yet he is not in SF, How do I blame him ? Closing down the heroin free Spike Island young offenders and sending these lads to St Pats where they become addicts and made contacts in the Dublin Heroin trade, Its no coincidence within months of that move and also coinciding with non availability of Cannabis, Heroin use took off rapidly in Cork.

Vanderbilt

Davids getting my No.1. MichaelD my No.2

This clip is worth sharing. He's an inspirational man.

Hope he can make the ultimate comeback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJuFbZw5ls

phasers

McGuinness campaigners out in force in my (very much working class) estate today.

The leaflet they gave out came with a diagram of a voting slip, just in case we didn't know how to do it..

ninebeanrows

doing this very un-scientifically.

In the last polling Sean Gallagher was on around 18%, this was during the time real polls showed SG between 38 and 41%.

A number of votes were cast on here before the RTE Frontline debate but the majority after.

If we use the reduction of 6%, we would expect his tally to have reduced by 1/3

So my guess based on Boards.ie is for Sean Gallagher to poll at 27% in tomorrows Presidential Election

RachaelVO

Weathercheck wrote: »

doing this very un-scientifically.

In the last polling Sean Gallagher was on around 18%, this was during the time real polls showed SG between 38 and 41%.

A number of votes were cast on here before the RTE Frontline debate but the majority after.

If we use the reduction of 6%, we would expect his tally to have reduced by 1/3

So my guess based on Boards.ie is for Sean Gallagher to poll at 27% in tomorrows Presidential Election

Good ol cigarette pack calculations, they can't be beaten with a big schtick!!!;)

stonetrower

SF only in this area of West Dublin. I think they will do well as their candidate is heavily involved in the campaign to stop the closures of the beds in Connolly Hospital.

recyclebin

when's the poll gettin reset?

KeithM89_old

recyclebin wrote: »

when's the poll gettin reset?

Sometime before the real polls open, prob midnight.

Capt'n Midnight

Freddie59 wrote: »

Yep. He was a member of FF - so what? At least he didn't murder anyone.;)

First there never was any danger of MMG becoming president. The worst that could happen is he might embarass some people by coming in ahead of them. So stop spreading FUD (Fear uncertainty doubt)

Second and this is bloody crucial, health budgets and safety budgets are finite, including road safety. With limited resources you can't save everyone. Budget approx. €1m to save a life through medical treatment or safety improvements. When money is diverted to paying off the debts of a few speculators / propping up the golden circle then it means people will die. You can argue about exact cost but not the effect.

Capt'n Midnight

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

I have never ever voted Sinn Fein in my life but Mcguinness has won my number 1(I'm even shocked to say that)

I might believe that if there weren't so many many newcomers using similar phrases each time there is an election.

Freddie59

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

So stop spreading FUD (Fear uncertainty doubt) THE RAW TRUTH

Just about covers it. Fcuk SF.

Freddie59

Vanderbilt wrote: »

Davids getting my No.1. MichaelD my No.2

This clip is worth sharing. He's an inspirational man.

Hope he can make the ultimate comeback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHJuFbZw5ls

That video is utter drivel. How ANYONE can still consider voting for that person is truly unbelievable.

RachaelVO

Freddie59 wrote: »

That video is utter drivel. How ANYONE can still consider voting for that person is truly unbelievable.

Ah the joys of democracy, people can vote for the candidate of their choice...

Shocker huh?

Capt'n Midnight

stonetrower wrote: »

The media are trying to tell us who to vote for by using character assassination rather than telling us the candidates policies and what they can offer the people of this great country.
I am voting for the person who has had the most dirt thrown at them by the gutter press.
Mc Guinness

a stone thrower from Derry, so I'm guessing that your choice of candidate was decided from day 1

25-09-2011, 08:20 as far as I can tell your first post on boards

stonetrower wrote: »

Look at the "vote for me I'm a celeb" candidates. Look at one that is a "close" friend and sympathiser of a convicted drug user and statutory rapist. Look at the one who is a businessman, is he in it to further his own financial ambitions. Mandella was branded a terrorist and he reunited the people of SA so why not Mc Guinness for President. He just may surprise you like Mandella surprised everyone

Crazy Horse 6

McGuinness all the way for me. The only candidate with any real courage. I'll be filling out 1-6 but Gallagher won't be getting anything from me due to his FF connections.

mikemac

Is Michael D the only one who speaks Irish?

I did email the Norris campaign a few weeks back but got no reply. It wasn't exactly a difficult question, must be too busy

I'm not sure if the others are fluent

Anyone know?

Kurtosis

Don't know for sure, but during the TG4 debate, while Michael D was obviously the most fluent, I thought Norris and Mitchell both demonstrated some proficiency. The others only spoke as Gaeilge during their opening statements.

K-9

mikemac wrote: »

Is Michael D the only one who speaks Irish?

I did email the Norris campaign a few weeks back but got no reply. It wasn't exactly a difficult question, must be too busy

I'm not sure if the others are fluent

Anyone know?

McGuinness is getting lessons AFAIK. Suppose he wasn't in the Kesh to get the lessons, Portlaoise prison instead I think?

hotmail.com

mikemac wrote: »

Is Michael D the only one who speaks Irish?

I did email the Norris campaign a few weeks back but got no reply. It wasn't exactly a difficult question, must be too busy

I'm not sure if the others are fluent

Anyone know?

There was a debate on TG4 about two weeks ago.

Michael D. was the only candidate that spoke Irish during the debate.

What is the relevance of this anyway? 98% of the country can't speak Irish.

Capt'n Midnight

fluorescence wrote: »

Out of curiosity, is it better to completely fill your polling card or just give preferences to candidates you approve of?

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Thats a completly personal choice. Just remember that a low vote can still be used in transfers while no vote means no vote.

I reckon I'll fill out about 4.

That's fine, unless you dislike any of the remaining candidates more than the others.

This election will almost certainly be decided by the transfers.

If you give someone a 7 then the only way they can get that vote is if ALL 6 other candidates are eliminated.

BUT if you give someone a 6 then your vote could be the deciding one.

The beauty of PR is that you can vote AGAINST people as well as for them. By not putting down a later preference then in the unlikely event transfers go down that far your opinion won't count.

KeithM89_old

Ok folks, finish up here, this thread is being locked shortly.

Gummy Panda

I'm voting Yoda Higgins. Good relations with the Wookiees he has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUMzZ9FmImE

KeithM89_old

New thread/poll HERE

Or use the Election Forum.