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The Official After Hours Presidential Election Thread **POLL RESET 23/10**

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    #1862
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    K-9 wrote: »
    No, they had the democratic will of the majority behind them. Does it bother you that the Real IRA don't use law and order to achieve their aims?

    Cheeses Christ!
    I knew there was a knowledge deficit on here, but this is getting ridiculous.

    It's nearly better than Liam Byrne's 'I don't care where I find the high moral ground' answer

    'Is Michael Collins standing for president'

    :eek::rolleyes:


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    #1863
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    K-9 wrote: »
    Yeah, they got an overwhelming mandate in 1918.

    Oh ok, so as the mandate is what is important to you then the post-1918 IRA you approve of but you would condemn the 1916 members of the Easter Rising who were acting without a mandate from the people, yes?


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    #1864
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    Oh ok, so as the mandate is what is important to you then the post-1918 IRA you approve of but you would condemn the 1916 members of the Easter Rising who were acting without a mandate from the people, yes?


    A lot of people on here seem not to understand why they have Irish citizenship, all they have to do is look at the second last option on the poll to see how lucky they are to have a vote.


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    #1865
    fishy fishy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Ah - the old "throw in a pathetic unfounded dig and then run off into the sunset when asked to back it up" tactic ?

    Fair enough - I was due another entry to my ignore list anyway.

    ah, learn a bit of history and fact and you will understand the conversation then.
    :)


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    #1866
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    No-one claimed they were "the only ones" FFS! This lie is getting very tiresome.

    As for many people not being equal - that's true - the innocent victims that were murdered were obviously the ones that McG & Co didn't view as "equal"


    Are you not getting tired from that?


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    #1867
    fishy fishy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    gigino wrote: »
    He was also instrumental , as leader of the PIRA, in bringing much suffering to the people of Ireland and further afeild, over the course of 3 decades.

    If a wifebeater stops beating his wife / family after 3 decades do you credit him with being a great homemaker / peacemaker ?

    quick question - what contribution did you make to help yourself, your family and friends who were being tortured, burned out, treated like dirt during the troubles? Did you just make the abusers a cup of tea and to hell with your own people or oh wait, lemme see - were you even there?? Or were you even alive then??? :rolleyes:


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    #1868
    fishy fishy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    No-one claimed they were "the only ones" FFS! This lie is getting very tiresome.

    As for many people not being equal - that's true - the innocent victims that were murdered were obviously the ones that McG & Co didn't view as "equal"

    and the laughter begins again. I love your posts, they amuse my day. :D:D you should be on stage really.


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    #1869
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    starryg wrote: »
    Allegations about Dana are that her brother sexually abused her niece (sister's daughter).WTF! http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Danas-brother-accused-of-molesting-sisters-child-131838148.html
    Pretty bad form for them to be publishing this at the height of an election campaign. A story, that may or may not have any substance, that is about a family member, not about Dana.

    The media haven't covered themselves in glory during this campaign.


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    #1870
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    dvpower wrote: »
    The media haven't covered themselves in glory during this campaign.


    Since when have they ever?


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    #1871
    bigneacy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭bigneacy


    I don't get it - whats the attraction in Micheal D Higgins? I don't mean his looks - its obvious he's a very handsome man but why is he the most popular? Enlighten me, please.


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    #1872
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    bigneacy wrote: »
    I don't get it - whats the attraction in Micheal D Higgins? I don't mean his looks - its obvious he's a very handsome man but why is he the most popular? Enlighten me, please.

    Sex sells :eek:


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    #1873
    fishy fishy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    bigneacy wrote: »
    I don't get it - whats the attraction in Micheal D Higgins? I don't mean his looks - its obvious he's a very handsome man but why is he the most popular? Enlighten me, please.

    beats me! he can't even turn his neck properly. :D and he has to stand on a box to be seen.


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    #1874
    bigneacy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭bigneacy


    fishy fishy wrote: »
    beats me! he can't even turn his neck properly. :D and he has to stand on a box to be seen.

    He reminds me of the kid from the yellow pages ad a little bit...


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    #1875
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Cheeses Christ!
    I knew there was a knowledge deficit on here, but this is getting ridiculous.

    It's nearly better than Liam Byrne's 'I don't care where I find the high moral ground' answer

    'Is Michael Collins standing for president'

    :eek::rolleyes:

    I feel an Irish history for Dummies lecture coming on. Care to answer the question?
    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    Oh ok, so as the mandate is what is important to you then the post-1918 IRA you approve of but you would condemn the 1916 members of the Easter Rising who were acting without a mandate from the people, yes?

    The mandate is important as it's what the majority of people wanted. It can be argued that there were no fair elections pre 1918.

    Do you agree with the Real IRA's actions?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #1876
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    K-9 wrote: »
    I feel an Irish history for Dummies lecture coming on. Care to answer the question?



    The mandate is important as it's what the majority of people wanted. It can be argued that there were no fair elections pre 1918.

    Do you agree with the Real IRA's actions?
    The 1918 general election is a bit of a farce. As if that election was going to change anything in Ulster. I don't think such a large amount of Unionists was going to just accept a United Ireland.


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    #1877
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    The 1918 general election is a bit of a farce. As if that election was going to change anything in Ulster. I don't think such a large amount of Unionists was going to just accept a United Ireland.

    Hence Northern Ireland.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #1878
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    K-9 wrote: »
    The mandate is important as it's what the majority of people wanted. It can be argued that there were no fair elections pre 1918.

    And do you think there were fair elections in Northern Ireland in the 1970s?
    Do you agree with the Real IRA's actions?

    No I don't.


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    #1879
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    And do you think there were fair elections in Northern Ireland in the 1970s?

    After gerrymandering was ended, yes. Woman and people over 18 could vote and Nationalists voted for the SDLP in huge numbers.

    No I don't.

    Interesting, I see the same arguments to justify their campaign as McGuinness apologists use here.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #1880
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    The 1918 general election is a bit of a farce. As if that election was going to change anything in Ulster. I don't think such a large amount of Unionists was going to just accept a United Ireland.

    How was that election a farce ? Was it because the result did not sit well with unionists ?


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    #1881
    Captain Darling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    I see Martin McGuinness brought his posse of hoodlums in to intimidate poor old Miriam O'C after the debate on RTE. He couldnt hack a few straight forward questions.

    I'm sure its not the first time he has 'intimidated' someone like this. :pac:


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    #1882
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Anyone else sick of the constant endless arguments on the subject of MMCG?


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    #1883
    Captain Darling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Anyone else sick of the constant endless arguments on the subject of MMCG?

    No, i love it! :D


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    #1884
    Firefox11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭Firefox11


    bigneacy wrote: »
    I don't get it - whats the attraction in Micheal D Higgins? I don't mean his looks - its obvious he's a very handsome man but why is he the most popular? Enlighten me, please.

    Most of the rest of the candidates have a dodgy past or skeletons in the closet. What need is a safe pair of stable hands for the Presidency, not someone that is going cause controversy or embarrassment to the country down the road. Middle class voters wont have it.


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    #1885
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I think that 'little talk' with Miriam has well & truly put those people off who may have been thinking about voting for him.
    The real money is on Michael D Higgins, with Sean Gallagher, David Norris & Gay Mitchell in the mash up :))


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    #1886
    Deedsie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,272 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Anyone else sick of the constant endless arguments on the subject of MMCG?

    Ya, I find it head wrecking! Just give it a rest people, he has a right to run.


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    #1887
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Anyone else sick of the constant endless arguments on the subject of MMCG?

    What's behind it is the irrational fear that some people have of seeing Martin McGuinness as President of Ireland and what that means to their comfy isolated perception of the troubles.

    So, they come up with endless pathetic negative campaigning and smear tactics such as above. It's basically political troll-ishness in my view.


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    #1888
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I think that 'little talk' with Miriam has well & truly put those people off who may have been thinking about voting for him.
    The real money is on Michael D Higgins, with Sean Gallagher, David Norris & Gay Mitchell in the mash up :))

    You repeatedly write Martin McGuinness out of this race but the polls simply do not tie with this taillored version of reality you keep pushing. It's getting tiresome at this stage.

    Face facts Martin McGuinness is a serious contender in this race. Build a bridge & get over it ffs.


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    #1889
    Captain Darling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I think that 'little talk' with Miriam has well & truly put those people off who may have been thinking about voting for him.
    The real money is on Michael D Higgins, with Sean Gallagher, David Norris & Gay Mitchell in the mash up :))

    Nothing like ganging up on a woman on her own though because the big bad terrorist cant handle a few rough questions. Had to rope in a few of his head banger cronies too. :rolleyes:


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    #1890
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I think that 'little talk' with Miriam has well & truly put those people off who may have been thinking about voting for him.
    The real money is on Michael D Higgins, with Sean Gallagher, David Norris & Gay Mitchell in the mash up :))


    Norris or Mitchell won't be anywhere near the mix-up

    It will come down to Higgins and Gallagher with Higgins emerging comfortable winner.

    This election, for all intents and purposes, is a run race.


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    #1891
    Captain Darling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Norris or Mitchell won't be anywhere near the mix-up

    It will come down to Higgins and Gallagher with Higgins emerging comfortable winner.

    This election, for all intents and purposes, is a run race.

    Cant see anything other then a Michael D win. He's the best of a very bad lot.

    It has turned out to be a total freak show.


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