The Official After Hours Presidential Election Thread **POLL RESET 23/10**

Phill Ewinn

Na na na na na Dana. She could be out by 6. Shame really. She made Norris sound comparitively sane, made mithchel look less of a mammys boy and Gallagher looks less of a wierdo.

Lets face it without her it's going to put the spotlight even more on each of the other candidates.

Captain Darling

billybudd wrote: »

Because the ambassodors are like baldricks to blackadder.

They all have very cunning plans??

dvpower

Captain Darling wrote: »

The Presidential Jumper. One is not amused.

2016: Newsflash wrote:

President Higgins is found dead of hypothermia, because he couldn't afford the gas for his superser

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Phill Ewinn

www.herald.ie/news/gallagher-said-ff-were-only-party-to-get-us-back-on-track-2906592.html

Gallagher says his FF mates are the only ones to get us back on track. Oh yeah. We'll all vote for you now. Ruining the country wasn't enough for them. They want a president to rub peoples noses in it too.

Cnut.

Lord TSC

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

RTE however in a presidential debate are supposed to be impartial.

But this is nothing new, the "Irish" media have always bee decidedly anti republican.

Cause hey! If someone disagrees, just imply they are Brit sympathisers. :rolleyes:

I asked this to Molar a few pages back this morning and it was ignored so I'll ask again.

We're not allowed discuss his past unless its in a positive way. We're not allowed question SF policies unless its in a positive way. What are we allowed to question him on? It strikes me that SF peeps just don't want any negative questions asked whatsoever and whenever anyone brings up legit problems, they get deflected into attacks on others and snide implications that the person isn't worth talking to. Heaven forbid people offer genuine answers to the problems that a majority of voters seem to have...

billybudd

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Cause hey! If someone disagrees, just imply they are Brit sympathisers. :rolleyes:

I asked this to Molar a few pages back this morning and it was ignored so I'll ask again.

We're not allowed discuss his past unless its in a positive way. We're not allowed question SF policies unless its in a positive way. What are we allowed to question him on? It strikes me that SF peeps just don't want any negative questions asked whatsoever and whenever anyone brings up legit problems, they get deflected into attacks on others and snide implications that the person isn't worth talking to. Heaven forbid people offer genuine answers to the problems that a majority of voters seem to have...

He has answered alot of questions from his past maybe he just wants more questions on the future.

KeithAFC

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Cause hey! If someone disagrees, just imply they are Brit sympathisers. :rolleyes:

I asked this to Molar a few pages back this morning and it was ignored so I'll ask again.

We're not allowed discuss his past unless its in a positive way. We're not allowed question SF policies unless its in a positive way. What are we allowed to question him on? It strikes me that SF peeps just don't want any negative questions asked whatsoever and whenever anyone brings up legit problems, they get deflected into attacks on others and snide implications that the person isn't worth talking to. Heaven forbid people offer genuine answers to the problems that a majority of voters seem to have...

He doesn't seem to like discussing the past, yet he keeps banging on about the Good Friday Agreement and Ian Paisley. I think the point you made about questioning in a positive way is spot on.

billybudd

KeithAFC wrote: »

He doesn't seem to like discussing the past, yet he keeps banging on about the Good Friday Agreement and Ian Paisley. I think the point you made about questioning in a positive way is spot on.

You wouldnt be bias woud you?

Lord TSC

billybudd wrote: »

He has answered alot of questions from his past maybe he just wants more questions on the future.

But it was asked a few pages back what were his economic policies, for example, and what were the policies of his party. In other words, how does he and his party plan on making positive actions for the future of Ireland?

The answer? "Sure what does that have to do with the presidency position? let's move on!"

Move on, move on. There's this obsession with the future, but maybe thats because if we look at the past, there's things which hrut the campaign, and if we look at the present, we'll see the problems as they exist. If we just keep looking forward, we can ignore all those things that might actually have to be dealt with...

billybudd

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

But it was asked a few pages back what were his economic policies, for example, and what were the policies of his party. In other words, how does he and his party plan on making positive actions for the future of Ireland?

The answer? "Sure what does that have to do with the presidency position? let's move on!"

Move on, move on. There's this obsession with the future, but maybe thats because if we look at the past, there's things which hrut the campaign, and if we look at the present, we'll see the problems as they exist. If we just keep looking forward, we can ignore all those things that might actually have to be dealt with...

But his policies and that of his party are in the open already?

Lord TSC

billybudd wrote: »

But his policies and that of his party are in the open already?

Of course they are. Which is why we should be discussing them instead of trying to "move past" them.

But again, people aren't interested in discussing criticisms of his policies or how they tend to be ones which sound great to the people but would fall flat if they actually had to be carried out.

The thing I find funny is I think both sides can agree MMG has gotten a tonne of media time out of this. He's had more opportunities than any other to get answers to these questions out there. But he doesn't answer them. He freaks, he resorts to cliche non-answers and he attacks the people who ask the questions.

Captain Darling

billybudd wrote: »

But his policies and that of his party are in the open already?

Thats the one thing people dont focus on for the presidential campaign. Its a fairly important thing for SF in general to get in office and get their message across. Its not relevant for the other established parties i figure. Its all part of their masterplan for Dr Evil Adams to take over the wurld.

Muaha ha ha ha ha.

dvpower

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

www.herald.ie/news/gallagher-said-ff-were-only-party-to-get-us-back-on-track-2906592.html

Gallagher says his FF mates are the only ones to get us back on track. Oh yeah. We'll all vote for you now. Ruining the country wasn't enough for them. They want a president to rub peoples noses in it too.

Cnut.

What a dishonest headline.

Herald wrote:

Gallagher said FF were only party to get us back on track

There is nothing in the text of the article that justifies that headline.

It is the sub editor at the Herald that is a cnut.

rozeboosje

"I am from Northern Ireland, I'd like to vote but I can't!"

Why so specific? I'm Dutch, and I can't vote either. And I can't even pick an option here. LOL

Morlar

rozeboosje wrote: »

"I am from Northern Ireland, I'd like to vote but I can't!"

Why so specific? I'm Dutch, and I can't vote either. And I can't even pick an option here. LOL

You see your own narrow demographic as equivalent to the million plus Irish people north of the border who can't vote in this election ? (I know population approx 1.7 mill ! !)

A vast number of whom consider themselves Irish citizens but who are not permitted to vote in this election ? You see a Dutch person in Ireland ilegible to vote as warranting equal footing in a poll option ? Really ?

*Sorry - that was a very humourless answer, I blame the incessant anti-McGuinness negative campaigning and general trollery.

Cypher_sounds

Stinicker wrote: »

You are voting for Fianna Fail, turkeys voting for christmas and all that, Mary Davis is another Fianna Fail cronie and a few years in jail is what both of them deserve not votes!

No im voting for Gallagher to become PRESIDENT of IRELAND....

...dont know what the fuck you are sh1teing on about...this is a poll thread about the new president of Ireland.

Lord Trollington

dvpower wrote: »

Here are the second preference figures from the Red C-Sunday Business Post poll from 25th September

Gay Mitchell 14%
Michael D. Higgins 20%
Sean Gallagher 14%
Mary Davis 16%
Martin McGuinness 8%
David Norris 6%
Dana Rosemary Scallon 7%

As it stands, MMcG would need to be a whole lot further ahead than Michael D in order to beat him with just 8% of second preferences.

Who actually gets polled for these Red C polls. I know no one who has ever been polled. EVER.

Deedsie

rozeboosje wrote: »

"I am from Northern Ireland, I'd like to vote but I can't!"

Why so specific? I'm Dutch, and I can't vote either. And I can't even pick an option here. LOL

I included the option for two reasons. Firstly, it was widely suggested MMcG success on these polls was down to posters from Northern Ireland.

Secondly, Northern Ireland has Approx 700000 nationalists. There is a growing opinion that the right to vote in Irish presidential elections should be extended to Northern Ireland and too recent Irish emigrants who are not registered to vote in the new country they reside in!

It is to be discussed in the constitutional conference in the spring.

Wolfe Tone

rozeboosje wrote: »

"I am from Northern Ireland, I'd like to vote but I can't!"

Why so specific? I'm Dutch, and I can't vote either. And I can't even pick an option here. LOL

Well eh, you are Dutch, not Irish.

K-9

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Who actually gets polled for these Red C polls. I know no one who has ever been polled. EVER.

Just make them up I think.

They tend to be pretty accurate for elections, within the margin of error anyway.

murpho999

Peep O'Day wrote: »

How far up your arse did you have to dig to pull that one out? What an insult to the intelligence of our european neighbours.

"What a load of pretentious shoite" indeed...

Sorry I am late coming back to this one due to work, but I'm not pulling anything out of my arse.

I've lived abroad for a long time and am well travelled and in my opinion a lot of people in Europe know absolutely nothing about Ireland and an awful lot think we are British.

I spent half my time in The Netherlands telling people I was not English, or that Ireland was an independent republic and not part of Britain.
In 2002 a lot didn't even know that Ireland was a member of the Euro.

This presidential election is not big on the International stage and not one person from Europe will be able to name a candidate and most will be oblivious to the result.

Killer Pigeon

Ah! Dana...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnEyoECdveM

Cashyboo5

K-9 wrote: »

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Who actually gets polled for these Red C polls. I know no one who has ever been polled. EVER.

Just make them up I think.

They tend to be pretty accurate for elections, within the margin of error anyway.

I was phoned by red c a few months back and the questions were all about who should the fine gael candidate.

chosen1

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Who actually gets polled for these Red C polls. I know no one who has ever been polled. EVER.

I used to think it was all made up until I was phoned by them last year. Who I'd vote for if there was an election in the morning was the last question they asked. The rest was about mobile phone providers and ISPs and about 10 questions on gravy of all things. Know another lad at work as well that was called this week.

Badgermonkey

Morlar wrote: »

I am not actually sure, heard it once and have not been able to find it since then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOxKnsT-XZg

The full 'debate' can be found here:
http://www.newstalk.ie/2010/programmes/all-programmes/the-right-hook/the-two-michaels/

randylonghorn

dvpower wrote: »

It was.

If this is the worst of the 'dirt' they can drag up on Michael D, then I think we can start installing the orange boxes in the Áras

raven136 wrote: »

http://youtu.be/FOxKnsT-XZg

Michael D not very presidential here

Pherekydes wrote: »

You're not sure, but you're labelling it an anti-American rant anyway?

It's not an anti-American rant, he describes America as "the country I was proud to work in". It's a rant against the hawks of the Tea Party and war-mongers generally and Graham in particular.

And it's been aired plenty, and I'd say for every Mrs. Rosary Beads who's thrown up her hands in horror and vowed not to vote for him, it's probably gained him two votes!! :pac:

Certainly, I played it for a few people the last night because it came up, and the reaction was pretty much "Jaysus, the auld man has a bit of life in him!! It's not all poetry and art then!!"

Ghandee

Cashyboo5 wrote: »

I was phoned by red c a few months back and the questions were all about who should the fine gael candidate.

You registered to say that?/Your first post on boards is a lie?

hondasam

randylonghorn wrote: »

It's not an anti-American rant, he describes America as "the country I was proud to work in". It's a rant against the hawks of the Tea Party and war-mongers generally and Graham in particular.

And it's been aired plenty, and I'd say for every Mrs. Rosary Beads who's thrown up her hands in horror and vowed not to vote for him, it's probably gained him two votes!! :pac:

Certainly, I played it for a few people the last night because it came up, and the reaction was pretty much "Jaysus, the auld man has a bit of life in him!! It's not all poetry and art then!!"

was that Michael D having a rant, there is life in the old dog yet.

The Left Hand Of God

I like the way a lot of the media feed the public stuff like "Martin McG when confronted about his IRA past versus his religious beliefs..." lost the plot....When it was a case of him justifying murdering people versus his beliefs... as was asked.



It's all very subtle......

dvpower

hondasam wrote: »

was that Michael D having a rant, there is life in the old dog yet.

Thats what I thought - I don't see that clip as a negative at all.

Its a bit weird that a SF'er would think it unpresidential for a candidate to have used bad language :eek: