Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

New build please?

Options

Comments

  • Options
    #2
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    PSU is far above your needs. Even with 650W and two 6870s, you would have a lot of room.

    That motherboard is a bit dear.
    What about something like Asrock's Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 for €120?
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50900
    -It's work well with SLI/crossfire with two x8 speed slots.
    -It is compatible with Ivy Bridge processors.
    -You get PCI-E 3 with Ivy Bridge processors.
    -You get the benefits of the Z68 chipset.

    There's also an extreme4 with more PCI-E slots if that's what you're after but it's out of stock at the moment.

    OCZ have had a poor track record with their drives. Get the M4 instead.
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46113
    Far more reliable and cheaper.


  • Options
    #3
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    Cheers for the input Monotype. I didn't realise I could get away with a 650w PSU. Would it still be ok if I added on 3 more HD's and another gpu in the future do you think?
    That motherboard seems very reasonable. (I will have to read up on wheather or not it can wake up on lan... I assume they all say they can do that now)
    Ivy bridge, thats the next batch of intel processors right?
    Thanks for the tip on the OCZ hard drives. I will get the M4 instead as per your advice. (3 year warranty, nice)
    What about RAM? I think 8GB would be enough. would x2 4gb be better than 1 8gb stick?
    If I'm not planning on overclocking someone has pointed out to me that the stock fan with the CPU will be more than enough. (I hope its not too loud)


  • Options
    #4
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Looks like it does support WOL.

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Extreme3%20Gen3&cat=Specifications

    650W is enough for two 6870s, a load of hard drives and even a load of overclocking if you change your mind on that.

    If you want a luxurious PSU, you could get the modular gold rated 700W:
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=33057
    But you can save money and go with lower rated efficiency and non-modular and realistically won't notice much difference at the end of the day (so long as you actually pick a good quality PSU!).

    Ivy Bridge are the next chipset/processor lineup due for release early next year. Compatibility with current boards looks good (for once, given Intel's track record!) but I think that's it's better to have guaranteed compatibility.

    8GB is a lot of RAM. 4GB is enough for most people, but given your requirements of encoding and photoshop as well as current low RAM prices, 8GB is the recommended. 16GB really only if you're doing serious work in that line or want to boast about your system. 2x4GB definitely. Always buy in pairs.

    The included heatsink is enough for some mild overclocking, but that's really down to the low temperature of these CPUs rather than the quality of the heatsink. If noise is important you might want get something quieter.
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49255
    Although when there's vent holes on the side your case, noise is probably going to find its way out.

    Just looking at that case - that's a "special item". This means open box so there could be pieces missing or anything. Here's the proper one.
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=26703
    If you want a very quiet case, the Fractal Design R3 is in the same price region. It includes sound proofing and is very quiet but looks are far from the flashy design of your first choice.


  • Options
    #5
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    Thanks for the case advice - I'll probably get the one that you recommend. I'm not really pushed on looks.

    How about this for RAM? (http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50734&agid=1247) GeIL DDR3 EVO CORSA Series Dual Channel Kit - 2133 MHz (PC3-17000) - It will allow me to over-clock down the road.

    As for the PSU I will probably go for this one: Cooler Master GX RS650 (http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50920&agid=1629)

    so ACPI 1.1 Compliance Wake Up Events is basically its WoL?

    So that brings me to this setup for 975.61euro
    M/B http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50900 119.33 ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
    PSU http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50920&agid=1629 68.76 Cooler Master GX RS650
    CPU http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41222&agid=1617 263.89 Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K
    GPU http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46206&agid=1004 163.74 HIS Radeon HD 6870 IceQ X Turbo - graphics adapter - Radeon HD 6870 - 1 GB
    HD http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46110&agid=1145 164.28 128GB Crucial M4
    Optical Drive http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=42981&agid=282 26.24 ASUS DRW 22B3
    Case http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=36380&agid=631 91.79 Fractal Design Define R3 - tower - ATX
    CPU fan N/A
    RAM http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50734&agid=1247 77.58 GeIL DDR3 EVO CORSA


  • Options
    #6
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Overclocking is no longer depended on RAM and speeds make little difference to performance on this platform. The highest I'd go is the 1600MHz/PC3-12800 if there's a good deal. Beyond that, prices just go up too fast.

    Don't get that coolermaster PSU. Most of their PSUs below €100 are ****e (basically avoid any of their non-modular ones).
    Recommendations:
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=24479
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39875
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46158
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38006
    http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/29_PSU/productdetails/80002628/A_Data_HM_650_650_Watt_ATX/AHM650_BZ_CEU/default.aspx



    Edit:
    Sniipe wrote: »
    so ACPI 1.1 Compliance Wake Up Events is basically its WoL?

    176287.PNG

    You'd have to dig around the internet or manual for more details.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #7
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    Monotype, can't thank you enough. I will go for Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650.

    The Ram I'll go for is http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=40701&agid=1193 - Corsair Vengeance memory 8GB :DDR3 1600 MHz CL9

    All done so for €946.10 :) will post pics when it arrives. I mite splash out on a nice mouse with my savings. /me looks up mouse reviews


  • Options
    #8
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    A heatsink cries every time someone buys a corsair vengence kit :P

    If you want 1600 CL9 RAM, then get either of these instead. You'll thank me later when you go to install your cooler.

    http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44324&agid=1193
    http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44314&agid=1193


  • Options
    #9
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    deconduo wrote: »
    A heatsink cries every time someone buys a corsair vengence kit :P
    - LOL, thanks

    I opted for the value plus one :)


  • Options
    #10
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Um, if this is a gaming build, why the hell are you only using a single 6870? Something a little better (and with more easily available waterblocks, if you're watercooling again) like a 6950 maybe?

    Also, I have some WC gear for sale on Adverts, if you're interested. 360 rad, some fittings, as well as a GTX 580 and block.


  • Options
    #11
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    surely a single 6870 is enough? plus it seems good value for the price. Not really interested in watercooling if I don't need it.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #12
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Hm, that card is actually more capable than I had thought... yeah, I suppose it'll do you fine.

    RE: watercooling, I wasn't sure if you were going for another silent build or not. If noise isn't an issue this time round, then no, you won't need it.


  • Options
    #13
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    I didn't recommend an upgrade since a second 6870 was possibly on the books and the price increases of AMD cards has made it less tempting.
    A 6870 will run any game at HD resolution with high settings, but you might need an extra bit of power if you want to push it to maximum.

    Edit:
    Biggest graphic heavy concern of most people at the moment is BF3. Ultra settings are not really smooth but high settings are about right.
    http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/1128981-will-6870-play-bf3.html#post15117037

    The 560ti is better value if you want something nearly as good as the 6950 for €20 cheaper.


  • Options
    #14
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    Monotype wrote: »
    Biggest graphic heavy concern of most people at the moment is BF3. Ultra settings are not really smooth but high settings are about right.
    But a second 6870 would probably be good enough for ultra if I wanted to go down that route, right?


  • Options
    #15
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Yes, except that the rule of thumb for multi-GPU setups is to get the most powerful single GPU you can and upgrade later. Getting two midrange GPUs does nothing but give you the same performance as a higher-end GPU, but with scaling problems, microstuttering, flickering... all the usual stuff.


  • Options
    #16
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    quick question; is this: http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=746&agid=829 hardwareversands option to have them assemble it? (also do they switch it on to test?)


  • Options
    #17
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    AFAIK, they'll assemble all the major bits, but they leave the heavy stuff - namely CPU coolers - off for transport. As to whether they test it or not, I don't know. Honestly, if you're not sure, you're better off getting someone here to help you with it. There's a thread here listing people and where they are. I myself am in Maynooth and happy to help if you need it, for instance.


  • Options
    #18
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    176443.jpg


  • Options
    #19
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Looks good but you really didn't need a PSU that high. You're not getting the most out of the PSU's efficiency if you run it at such a low load.


  • Options
    #20
    Sniipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    Monotype wrote: »
    Looks good but you really didn't need a PSU that high. You're not getting the most out of the PSU's efficiency if you run it at such a low load.

    I was told (by a colleague) that although the psu is bigger but its runs more efficiently... I hope he is right?!?


  • Options
    #21
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    More efficiently than what? The HX850 is a silver rated PSU and will be more efficient than a bronze rated PSU overall. Efficiency would drop with low loads so might be similar to a suitably rated bronze PSU (but obviously lower than a gold rated). It's really just that it's an expensive PSU for your demands.
    Ah well, it's a good PSU anyway and will do even if you decide to get two very powerful cards or go tri-crossfire.


  • Advertisement
Advertisement