Meal Price

TUBBY

See in the journal today where they reckon GOOD beef nuts/ meal can be got for EUR230-250.
They mustnt be shopping around the same areas I am.

Anyone out there seeing these prices or is 260-280 more realistic like I am being quoted for blown in ration (16%).

All I get from the REPS is the usual guff about how good their stuff is and that they have cheaper meal but they are doin me a big favour not selling it to me:D

whelan1

if you are in a purchasing group you can get it cheap , but you also have cheap and nasty , be careful to go through the ingredients before you buy ... was interesting at our group meeting the other night that some of the rations where crap

bob charles

TUBBY wrote: »

See in the journal today where they reckon GOOD beef nuts/ meal can be got for EUR230-250.
They mustnt be shopping around the same areas I am.

Anyone out there seeing these prices or is 260-280 more realistic like I am being quoted for blown in ration (16%).

All I get from the REPS is the usual guff about how good their stuff is and that they have cheaper meal but they are doin me a big favour not selling it to me:D

well when the base ingredients of any ration in Ireland barley/wheat are costing around €210 to the miller after hauling, drying rolling, handling, credit. I doubt they can turn out a decent mix wit say wheat or barley included at 40% for €230 when delivery, credit is taken into account. There are not many ingredients available for sub €200 for millers to formulate a decent ration.

vanderbadger

TUBBY wrote: »

See in the journal today where they reckon GOOD beef nuts/ meal can be got for EUR230-250.
They mustnt be shopping around the same areas I am.

Anyone out there seeing these prices or is 260-280 more realistic like I am being quoted for blown in ration (16%).

All I get from the REPS is the usual guff about how good their stuff is and that they have cheaper meal but they are doin me a big favour not selling it to me:D

got 16% beef nut for 250 from roches recently, they had cheaper stuff as well

leg wax

looking myself at the moment,red mills 17% beef hi grain 310 euros, have found a 5 way mix for 220 collected,but the guy that supplies it has to wait and see if there will be a demand before he gets it.

reilig

My father worked in milling for years. he recons that nuts are only a disguise for the poor quality of the material going into them.

His firm belief is that the cheaper the feed, the poorer quality it is!

Mill owners didn't make the money to buy their new mercedes by selling feed cheaply. Although some sell cheap feed IYKWIM

whelan1

the first 4 ingredient should be wheat, barley, soya , distillers... if there is a high amount of palm kernal or sunflower meal steer clear:)

whelan1

reilig wrote: »

My farher worked in milling for years. he recons that nuts are only a disguise for the poor quality of the material going into them.

His firm belief is that the cheaper the feed, the poorer quality it is!

Mill owners didn't make the money to buy their new mercedes by selling feed cheaply. Although some sell cheap feed IYKWIM

we get the nuts tested regularly , once in the last 5 years the nuts where way off what they where supposed to be, think there is a 10% tolerance level, turned out the 21% nut was only a 17% nut... this company is no longer in business:rolleyes:

vanderbadger

whelan1 wrote: »

we get the nuts tested regularly , once in the last 5 years the nuts where way off what they where supposed to be, think there is a 10% tolerance level, turned out the 21% nut was only a 17% nut... this company is no longer in business:rolleyes:

how do you get them tested whelan?

whelan1

vanderbadger wrote: »

how do you get them tested whelan?

youjust take a sample and post it off to a lab, we use oldcastle laboratories in county meath, think its around €30

bbam

Cash is still king..
Our local supplier is charging €10 extra if you put the meal on account.. Bought Pattons 16% Beef for €248 a ton, collected. Never bought Pattons before so thought it was worth a try..

But mixed rations can be hit and miss too.. we bought some weanlin mix two years ago and thought the results were very poor, switched to Beef nuts and were much happier with the results.. have to admit though we're more trial and error than science :rolleyes:

reilig

bbam wrote: »

Cash is still king..
Our local supplier is charging €10 extra if you put the meal on account.. Bought Pattons 16% Beef for €248 a ton, collected. Never bought Pattons before so thought it was worth a try..

But mixed rations can be hit and miss too.. we bought some weanlin mix two years ago and thought the results were very poor, switched to Beef nuts and were much happier with the results.. have to admit though we're more trial and error than science :rolleyes:

Been buying from Pattons for 4 years now. They have the best quality feed in this area by a mile. I always get it blown in and the rep comes to collect the money 2 to 3 weeks after. He'll knock between €10 and €15 per ton off the quoted price. He's a great man for cattle, loves looking in the sheds and talking the mart talk. Everything, cattle and sheep, get Pattons Golden Thrive, which is a ration, It comes in at about €260 per ton. I have a neighbour with a prdigree herd. He finishes all of his bulls on it. It doesn't puff them out like Showbiz Turbo, but he recons that he gets great performance from it. He sells all of his bulls from the house and recons that buyers don't want to buy a bull that looks like it has been pushed on too much.

Muckit

reilig wrote: »

My farher worked in milling for years.

Paul & Vincent ? :rolleyes:

reilig

Muckit wrote: »

Paul & Vincent ? :rolleyes:

No,

It was Duignan's Mills, which was later bought by McDonaghs and then bought by Connacht Gold and subsequently closed down by them so that their co-op stores wouldn't have to compete on price with it.

Tora Bora

Muckit wrote: »

Paul & Vincent ? :rolleyes:

Paul and Vincent, was the best stuff on the market. Is it still available?

reilig

Tora Bora wrote: »

Paul and Vincent, was the best stuff on the market. Is it still available?

Yes, Its still going strong! I think Pattons and Paul and Vincent are the one company now.

Bizzum

P&V used do a bull nut, I think 20% protein. I found it great feed. Anyone know can it still be got?

epfff

Dealing with p and v for 3 yrs now.they have a good product.getting supper results.always a little dearer than competitors and no room on price when quoting but when paying never shy to round down.
have yet to meet the rep although we chat atlenght on fone a few times a month.never looks for payment

TUBBY

Hi LegWax, what was the 5 way mix do you know. If it has nice portion of barley, etc it couldnt be bad value.

leg wax

TUBBY wrote: »

Hi LegWax, what was the 5 way mix do you know. If it has nice portion of barley, etc it couldnt be bad value.

will get the break down for you,see what you all think.