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  • 01-10-2011 2:27pm
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    Site Banned Posts: 518 ✭✭✭


    Hi Folks,

    my front wall is only 2 foot high and 200 feet long. The sides of the house are similar. I am not in such a hurry with the sides as the front. Its a busy road and we are very exposed. House on a hill and soil rocky.

    I neeed hedges. I like the laurel and griselina as they are evergreen and thats what we need. Also because they are evergreen they will grow faster. But, is it really a good idea given the winters we are having?

    Thje copper beech is ok but even though it holds the leaves in winter the cover/protection is not as good in winter. And it grows slower.

    I considered the whitethorn quicks for speed and hardiness, but would this look ok as a hedge at the front of a house?

    I am confused. All help or advice welcome.

    Thanks a lot
    Eamon


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭artieanna


    I have a laurel hedge in for the past three years and I can say that the severe frost didn't do it a bit of harm. I also planted a few two years ago the main stem died on a couple and I though they were dead however they have put up new shoots from the base and are doing really well.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Grisilinias around here were devastated by last year's frosts. Laurels are indestructable but why not plant Whitethorn? It is native and supports wildlife - it will need proper pruning to create a dense hedge though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Weylin


    eamon11 wrote: »
    Hi Folks,

    my front wall is only 2 foot high and 200 feet long. The sides of the house are similar. I am not in such a hurry with the sides as the front. Its a busy road and we are very exposed. House on a hill and soil rocky.

    I neeed hedges. I like the laurel and griselina as they are evergreen and thats what we need. Also because they are evergreen they will grow faster. But, is it really a good idea given the winters we are having?

    Thje copper beech is ok but even though it holds the leaves in winter the cover/protection is not as good in winter. And it grows slower.

    I considered the whitethorn quicks for speed and hardiness, but would this look ok as a hedge at the front of a house?

    I am confused. All help or advice welcome.

    Thanks a lot
    Eamon
    do not plant any griselina,the hard frost will kill it. i lost over 60 feet of it last year,am still in shock :mad:.the few laurels i planted years ago are still perfect.:) whitethorn,etc are good but they are very spikey/thorny ,you will need gloves when trimming them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭Dan man


    Berberis darwinii makes a great hedge.... very hardy, evergreen, beautiful orange flowers and deep purple berries; glossy dark-green foliage. Grows very quickly so you should have a decent sized hedge in good time and thickens well with pruning. Very hardy so hard winter should not bother this plant. It looks great all-year round with flowers in spring and berries in late summer/early autumn and it keeps its foliage throughout the year. Will make a tall hedge if you wish or you could cut it to the whatever height suits you. It does well in most soil types so that shouldn't be a problem either.
    Here are a couple of pics pic:

    Berberis darwinii flowers.jpg

    Berberis darwinii berries.jpg

    There are many varieties of berberis, each with vibrant colour foliage, berries and flowers, but Berberis darwinii is as good as any and is ultra hardy. Good luck with your choice of hedging anyway.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭artieanna


    I agree dan man berberis darwinii is a good choice, nice and soft for clipping. I have a couple just as shrubs. There is also the red berberis thunbergii lovely hardy shrub/hedge not evergreen and has very sharp thorns.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 518 ✭✭✭eamon11


    many thanks to all of you for replying.Can berberis darwiniibe a good thick hedge?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭rje66


    things to consider
    200ft hedge =appox 140 plants planted in a double to get thick hedge, berberis darwinii plant will cost appox €6.

    planting a bare root plant(something like beech,hawthorn etc)will be considerably less.
    Hedging season is just around the corner, most commercial nurseries will have a good range
    rentes near enfield
    tullys , swords
    kellys near moate
    flannerys near allenwood, kildare

    off the top of my head
    hope this helps


  • Site Banned Posts: 518 ✭✭✭eamon11


    thanks rje,

    at 6 euro a pop I will not be planting those but rather bare root.


    What about willow? Would that look ok? At the front of a house? I dont mind the height.

    Acer campestre (field or maple hedge? Anyone ever plant this or have any ideas? I believe this is fast growing, but in winter what does it look like?

    Thanks again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,448 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I would not recommend willow. On rocky, hilly ground it is unlikely to be very happy, and if it is happy it will be a permanent battle to keep it under control. Lose-lose situation!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭planetX


    my fav is a mixed hedge of natives - hawthorn, field maple, elder, viburnum etc. I have a boundary of laurel and I hate it, it's hard work and ugly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,314 ✭✭✭secman


    I have a mixture of : Whitethorn, Field Maple, Holly, Guelder Rose, Crab Apple. It was planted from bare root stock, the aim is to get it the height of the stock fence behind it. Its a hedge that you have to put work into in the early years, especially if grown from bare root. I had difficulty with grass smothering it in the first year, difficult to keep grass at bay. the second year I scrubbed out all the grass and put in a layer of bark, 3 X 1 ton bags of it. But this gave the hedge a great chance to grow. To thicken this type of hedge it is necessary to prune hard each winter. After 5 growing seasons I now have a hedge 2 foot deep and about 2 foot high, having again pruned it hard last weekend. Hopefully in the next 2 years it will be stock fence height. As I said at the outset, this type of hedge takes work, but only once a year, if done correctly. The hedge is 80 meters long, every second post I planted a Silver Birch to add a bit of height and interest. All of the above plants do lose leaves over the winter but when fully thickened up it still provides cover and privacy, and security (whitethorn is thorny).

    Yours

    Secman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭scatter


    future forests have a great selection of hedging,visit their website and you will get some idea as they display prices and pictures.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    If you're looking for an inexpensive solution, what you can do is decide on which hedge you prefer and plant whips.


  • Site Banned Posts: 518 ✭✭✭eamon11


    thanks lads,

    what are whips sonnenblum?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    eamon11 wrote: »
    thanks lads,

    what are whips sonnenblum?

    Hedging Whips are typically < 1 yr old bare-root (no rootball) saplings, on sale Nov-Feb and sold in bundles. Whips are an excellent and very affordable method of planting a new hedge. All you need is patience.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Pinklady11


    I would recommend Red Robins. I planted a load of them around my boundary this year. I went with them because they don't lose their leaves in winter and I've been told they're fairly hardy. Also the new leaves are a beautiful red colour (hence the name).

    +1 for future forests, thats were I got mine. Great service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 JackPerry


    Advice sought.
    I planted a lot of Copper beech hedging in Feb 2009 and most of it is growing, some of it quicker than the rest. When should I cut it back to guarantee a thicker growth in the springtime?
    Thanks in advance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Renotr


    I am thinking of planting copper beech hedging, and I'm wondering what's the best time to plant them, and what preparations I need to do before planting!

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 Theprogardener


    When buying hedging in large quantities it is best to buy bare-rooted plants (plant from October to Feb/March) Whips are plants a year or so old, usually a single stem which resembles a whip in appearance. We buy in from Belgium about 10-15k for our own use on contracts. prunus laurocerasus novita 60-80cm €1.9 + vat. frost hardy and makes a good hedge, can take hard pruning should it get out of hand, good for windy sites. Feed regularly during the first growing season to help the plant become established.


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