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Time to ban cigarettes?
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thing is though Izzy, i completely respect where you're coming from, BUT, i already KNOW how dangerous it is, i HAVE weighed up the risks, and like i said, its my one vice among many, my attitude is not so much cavalier, as it is sick of being over exposed to "healthy lifestyle" nonsense.
put it this way- real butter is tasty, now compare that to that "benecol spread", they dare not even call it margarine, it's disgusting! but apparently it MAY help reduce cholesterol, or is that the other dirt- flora?
now, you also mentioned earlier that having a car was a necessity for getting around from place to place. have you considered for a minute that just like smoking, owning a car is also a luxury, and as much carbon monoxide as i might put out into the environment with my smoking, i can guarantee you that your car puts out a hell of a lot more! not to mention that someone else coul trot in here and berate you for not walking to work, school, wherever, or even use public transport! car a necessity my árse!
without getting too emotive or personal about it, i dont think there is a poster in here whose life hasnt been touched in some way by cancer or some other smoking related illness, my own father smoked 20 majors for nigh on 30 years before he gave them up on my brothers tenth birthday, took on a healthy lifestyle, even managing to stomach ryvita ffs! he died almost fifteen years later at the age of 62 from a heart attack while out walking his dog!
my wife's grandfather died there about two years ago from lung cancer at the age of 92, he smoked about 20 woodbines a day and even as he lay in the hospital bed he STILL managed a woodbine and a can of guinness that her grandmother sneaked into the ward, the night before he died!
and then there was a good friend of mine whose wife was only in her late 30's when she found out she had lung cancer, went from a stunning looking woman to being a mere shell of herself on her death bed a year and a half later, still smoked even when she was on chemo.
so you see Izzy i am only too well aware of the risks, and the damage that passive smoking inflicts on others, which is why i'll usually smoke outside and will not subject my wife and child to an activity which I choose to partake in, and then sometimes when i have the place to myself, i enjoy nothing more than getting naked, have a couple of brandy's, throw some classical music on, sit back and enjoy a fine cohiba!
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now, you also mentioned earlier that having a car was a necessity for getting around from place to place. have you considered for a minute that just like smoking, owning a car is also a luxury, and as much carbon monoxide as i might put out into the environment with my smoking, i can guarantee you that your car puts out a hell of a lot more! not to mention that someone else coul trot in here and berate you for not walking to work, school, wherever, or even use public transport! car a necessity my árse!
I don't have a car, or a driving licence. I always use public transport or walk. I can do that because I live in London. Plenty of people live in places where public transport is non-existent and they need a car to get to work. It isn't a luxury if you need it.so you see Izzy i am only too well aware of the risks, and the damage that passive smoking inflicts on others, which is why i'll usually smoke outside and will not subject my wife and child to an activity which I choose to partake in, and then sometimes when i have the place to myself, i enjoy nothing more than getting naked, have a couple of brandy's, throw some classical music on, sit back and enjoy a fine cohiba!
You're entitled to do whatever you want with your life. I just can't get my head around it at all. I suffer from a few illnesses that aren't self-inflicted (which is why I try so hard to be as healthy as I can), so when I see a healthy person damaging their body with a smelly, anti-social habit, I just think 'why??' I find it even harder to understand than illegal drug addiction. BTW, stale smoke is unpleasant and unhealthy for others, it sticks around for days after if you smoke indoors. My dad didn't usually smoke in the same room as me when I was a child, but I remember walking into rooms with that lingering, headache inducing dirty smell. Blech.0 -
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Good post xsiborg
I dont understand why non-smokers go on about smokers so much. Its my choice to smoke. Its my body.
I have the decency to not blow smoke in someones face so why cant people show the same respect and leave me and my fellow smokers alone 0 -
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i just find it crazy that you exaggerate an issue to ridiculous levels, and then expect others not just to understand, but also to accomodate your unreasonable demands.
What am I exaggerating? Smoking seriously bothers me. I never demand anything. If the smokers are part of my group, I'll move away from the group if I don't feel like dealing with bloodshot eyes and a runny nose. If that hurts someone's feelings, well, they had no consideration for mine, but most people can see that I have allergy issues and try to be as considerate as possible.you live in London, one of the most air polluted, smog covered cities in the world, i would think cigarette smoke would be the least irritant to your various medical conditions.
Funny, that's what all smokers say. I don't really enjoy pollution, but no, it doesn't irritate every millimetre of my nasal passages like tobacco smoke does. Pot smoke is fine.my brother is a nurse in a busy london hospital, he has an OCD condition where he insists on cleanliness, and thought nothing of when he came over to stay with me for a few days, walking out of tesco with two bottles of bleach and arfuls of kitchen roll. i asked him where did he think he was going with those, his reply was simply- "well i want to be sure your house is clean!", i quickly let him know in no uncertain terms that i would not be entertaining his notions, and told him he was more than welcome to book into a hotel if he was that worried about it.
turned out he was able to get over his OCD when he was pushed and his notions werent accomodated!
What's that got to do with anything?same thing with yourself when you choose to venture out into the outside world, you will come across people that smoke, and it is up to you whether you choose to avoid them or not, it is not up to you to expect them to accomodate you for that few seconds you are in their vicinity. in the same way as if im walking down the street and i see a crowd of suspicious looking youths on a street corner, i dont expect them to disband to accomodate me, its easier if i cross the road and walk around them and carry on my way, avoiding making an issue of it and saving myself that inconvenience.
That's the selfish attitude I'm talking about. I need to walk down crowded streets. I need to get to work. I should be able to do that without having clouds of smoke blown in my face and dodging a lit cigarette held right at hand level every 10 seconds. Your example of a gang of youths has nothing to do with this situation. I can't avoid walking down the street unless I sprout wings, but smokers can choose to smoke somewhere that isn't crowded, like one of the many back streets. They just don't because it's inconvenient.
It's funny that you imply that I should stay in if I don't like coming into contact with smokers. Why don't you stay in if you want to smoke? I guarantee that you're irritating far more people than I am. A LOT of people are bothered by smoke. They're just far too polite to say it. The majority of people would be delighted if smoking were banned in all public places. And it's already starting to happen. I've been to several beer gardens with non-smoking outside tables recently. Of course, all the smokers were moaning about that, but why shouldn't non-smokers get to enjoy sitting outside as well? They're quick to forget that all of us had to put up with smoky pubs and bars until just 4 years ago. The minority forced their habit on the majority. Now that the tables are turning, it's all so unfair?
I hardly ever say anything to smokers unless they're being REALLY obnoxious (smoking in a doorway with a lit cigarette ready to hit anyone who walks through it in the face), but I can't wait for it to be made illegal in more places, like in America. I want to enjoy lying in the park or eating outside without the stink of smoke. Why is that more selfish than what you're doing? Why am I the one who has to avoid you?
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