Garda Recruitment- The Waiting to Apply Room

eroo

The Pat Kenny Show is coming from Templemore NOW.

itsallgood

eroo wrote: »

The Pat Kenny Show is coming from Templemore NOW.

Well? Anything said or anyone make a statement?

kerry4sam

itsallgood wrote: »

Well? Anything said or anyone make a statement?

no nothing direct about recruitment. It was primarily focused on the town of Templemore and the businesses and the spin-off good and bad from the Garda College.

It was enjoyable though, well for me, the first 15-20mins when they spoke to some retired Gardaí and the training and experiences & how things have changed. I enjoyed hearing those stories that were told.

It is available on the rte website if you still wanted to hear it => 1hr 11mins in.

eroo

itsallgood wrote: »

Well? Anything said or anyone make a statement?

It was rubbish from our point of view. It focused on Templemore as a town trying to cope with the recession, amid the lack of Garda recruits. Locals were interviewed, including owner of Polly's, and GRA man Damien McCarthy. Former Assistant Commisioner (whose name escapes me but he tried to get retirement age raised 2 years ago.. Hickey?) was on too. McCarthy was interviewed for about 2 mins and said the Gardai were in a crisis without recruitment, and that was the most of it. The rest of the show was about local businesses/entrepeneurs and how they are coping in a recession.

It was in the same vein as that 'local heroes' show on tv. Disappointing unfortunately.

itsallgood

You close the only decent thread on this forum because a bunch of begrudging spasticks, yet you set up a thread for them to post freely on.
I said a year ago to ask people to subscribe to this furom as they do in the football threads to get rid of trolling and instead you have let these arseholes ruin a good thread.
Its no wonder there is no genuine rumours get passed around on here anymore when you let trolls run free.
You may just close all the threads cause you closed the only genuine one.

I'm listening

itsallgood wrote: »

You close the only decent thread on this forum because a bunch of begrudging spasticks, yet you set up a thread for them to post freely on.
I said a year ago to ask people to subscribe to this furom as they do in the football threads to get rid of trolling and instead you have let these arseholes ruin a good thread.
Its no wonder there is no genuine rumours get passed around on here anymore when you let trolls run free.
You may just close all the threads cause you closed the only genuine one.

That thread was doomed for months and its a pity... People get too emotional on that thread and trolls love that. Was a great thread back in the day.

Especially with one particular poster consistently posting she is leaving boards over the trolls and leaves a long farewell post and then posts again a few days later. It's like a soap drama...

C-J

As I posted before, i discovered you are unable to delete your account and things were said in the heat of the moment. Why should I or any other regular poster be forced to up sticks because of a few posters remarks? Its getting totally ridiculous and its sad to see.

Lenn Brennan

Been a while since I posted because of all the messin goin on but I think we can have the good old days of the waiting room back. Seeing as this is the waiting to apply room we should probably start a new thread. If we just let the mods deal with the trolls we can make it work! I myself am guilty of reacting to them in the past but if we all try really hard and think before reacting we could have a great thread again. What do ya think people?? Let's show them all that our great group is still alive and waiting!!!!

2wsxcde3

I'm listening wrote: »

Especially with one particular poster consistently posting she is leaving boards over the trolls and leaves a long farewell post and then posts again a few days later. It's like a soap drama...

Hey just found this thread - didn't even know it existed. BTW - cj is a woman? God i didn't know that. Always thought you were a man.
Anyway i know what you're saying about trolls and they can ruin a good thread. I played no part in the recent shutting down of the waiting room thread. It was practically everyone else BUT me:cool:

eroo

@ itsallgood.. I saw your post before it was edited and I sincerely hope your comments were not aimed at me or any of the other genuine posters in here. If a mod had seen your original post, it goes without saying you would've been banned. Not a good thing.

In general, I think you all to need to relax a little bit. People are frustrated which is understandable, but you have to have mental strength. If you throw a wobbler every week and say your done with boards and not coming back, but end up posting within a few days (not just you C-J, there is a few), then ask yourself how you are going to hold up with pressure from the college staff in Templemore? Or how are you going to handle being on a working unit where you're new and not trusted?

Simple answer: Suck it up, don't feed the trolls and relax. Life goes on, recruitment will come.

Also folks, this is the Waiting to Apply thread.. for those waiting to apply

itsallgood

You know who it was directed at eroo. If you saw my post before reply to then, why try be bitchy posting about what I changed.
Boards was good at the start but this forum has gone to the dogs. I joined to help others and pass on info which you of all people are aware of. You've gotten awfully petty in the last while.
Hope all this carry on wasn't in vein and your wait isn't too long.
Sayonara.

eroo

itsallgood wrote: »

You know who it was directed at eroo. If you saw my post before reply to then, why try be bitchy posting about what I changed.
Boards was good at the start but this forum has gone to the dogs. I joined to help others and pass on info which you of all people are aware of. You've gotten awfully petty in the last while.
Hope all this carry on wasn't in vein and your wait isn't too long.
Sayonara.

I can assure you I'm not petty, and I agree this forum has been on a steady downward spiral. I've made it clear to certain posters here that I didn't like their attitudes in their posts. And I still don't(not you though). People coming on posting 'panel members stay strong' and then 2 days later leaving because they can't put up with some anonymous username on the internet?? Only to come back a few days later and repeat.. you can see how childish and immature that is surely!

I attempted to inject a bit of positivity into this forum a few months back with the fitness thread, and generally ensuring a positive tone. How was that repaid? By being politely told to bog off into a thread for those waiting to apply only.. It showed some members of the panel to be incredibly selfish and bitter in their posting. That move I will not forget.

To finish I think the entire Garda Recruitment forum should be closed until recruitment begins again. It was never intended to solely be a rumour mill, which it now is.

C-J

Lenn Brennan wrote: »

Been a while since I posted because of all the messin goin on but I think we can have the good old days of the waiting room back. Seeing as this is the waiting to apply room we should probably start a new thread. If we just let the mods deal with the trolls we can make it work! I myself am guilty of reacting to them in the past but if we all try really hard and think before reacting we could have a great thread again. What do ya think people?? Let's show them all that our great group is still alive and waiting!!!!

great post lenn well said

Geri Boyle

Back on topic please.

Junkyard Dog

Hi guys I'd just like to say I'm really disappointed, I know I barely even contributed to the thread but I really depended on the waiting room! I'm on the panel and seeing as HQ or the government give us nothing as regards info I think I would have gone insane without it! Personally it was a huge help for me just knowing there was others in the same boat. Its a pity because a few ruined something that more actually needed. It's tough waiting for so long for something you've wanted all your life, it's even tougher waiting alone.

2wsxcde3

Can someone confirm or deny this with any degree of certainity?:

If you applied once for the guards but were rejected at the interview stage, do you only have one more chance at passing the interview next time otherwise you become barred from applying for the guards ever again?

Someone told me this was the case. However i've never seen this mentioned in any documentation anywhere. Is it true or false?

kojack

2wsxcde3 wrote: »

Can someone confirm or deny this with any degree of certainity?:

If you applied once for the guards but were rejected at the interview stage, do you only have one more chance at passing the interview next time otherwise you become barred from applying for the guards ever again?

Someone told me this was the case. However i've never seen this mentioned in any documentation anywhere. Is it true or false?

Never heard of this either, but more than likely it is false. You do have to wait 6 months from your initial application before you can apply again tho.

Yogi Bear

Junkyard Dog wrote: »

Hi guys I'd just like to say I'm really disappointed, I know I barely even contributed to the thread but I really depended on the waiting room! I'm on the panel and seeing as HQ or the government give us nothing as regards info I think I would have gone insane without it! Personally it was a huge help for me just knowing there was others in the same boat. Its a pity because a few ruined something that more actually needed. It's tough waiting for so long for something you've wanted all your life, it's even tougher waiting alone.

Was talking to a lad at the weekend. His buddy works in templemore and said that the trainers are studing the new course at moment and hoped there would be an intake in May 12 and Nov 12

jonburk

Was talking to a friend the other day and she said that she was told by a few people in the job that the panels have to be dissolved after a few years , that they are invalid after 4 years .
Has anybody ever heard anything on this before?

kojack

jonburk wrote: »

Was talking to a friend the other day and she said that she was told by a few people in the job that the panels have to be dissolved after a few years , that they are invalid after 4 years .
Has anybody ever heard anything on this before?

Never heard about this, but if it is true the panel is still safe until late 2013 start of 2014. People don't join the panel until everything is completed so I think it was October 2009 when the last group of us did physicals.

2wsxcde3

Nah not true. It wouldn't be written into any documentation that a panel must be discarded after 4 years etc. You'd never set up a panel in the first place if there was a possibility of it going on that long.

Shatters last comment was interesting on nov 17th when he basically changed from what he had previously been saying and stated that the longer things go on - the less likely the panel would be kept. Because of this change of language, it would suggest to me (me anyway) that he is expecting things to be dragged out over a longer period of time as opposed to taking in recruits in may 2012 and nov 2012 as a previous poster suggested.

In any case, i think the time is ripe to no longer continue suckling at the tithe of alan shatter for his drippling of costic milk and information but instead make it clear that as future guards we know what we want. If the panel does what to keep its place - i would probably suggest to them contacting their local TD's etc and stating that you are more than happy to meet the entry requirements for the new course by doing first aid, swimming certs etc in your own time and at your own expense before entering Templemore.

At least this way there'd be no justification for dropping you (the panel). This is what i'd suggest. However whether shatter would want the keep the panel even in this instance depends on how he feels the atmospheric coagulation of the moment suits him. It's all up in the air at the moment. However things go we can only say at the end of the day it was our intention to do our best as future guardians of the peace.

C-J

Yogi Bear wrote: »

Was talking to a lad at the weekend. His buddy works in templemore and said that the trainers are studing the new course at moment and hoped there would be an intake in May 12 and Nov 12

hi yogi, thanks for sharing, its very similar to what myself and a few others on here were told so i'm inclined to believe it!

eroo

Once again.. this is The Waiting to Apply Room.

Me again!

eroo wrote: »

Once again.. this is The Waiting to Apply Room.

Lighten up! And get a grip ffs

eroo

Me again! wrote: »

Lighten up! And get a grip ffs

You want to post and discuss the panel? Create a thread for it as opposed to continuosly derailing this one.;)

Me again!

eroo wrote: »

You want to post and discuss the panel? Create a thread for it as opposed to continuosly derailing this one.;)

Like i said before "get a grip!" there seems to be a few people on this forum who have absolutely no tolerance for any opinion other than their own and most of the decent posters seem to get banned for having the audasity to question them, this forum is decending into a farce its half full of gob****es and most are moderators who are wannabie Gardai, pricks of gardai or who had to leave the state to get a job in the police because they couldnt get in here! God I feel great after that! Goodbye,if your going to get banned you might as well do it in style!!

2wsxcde3

Dudes relax. We may all very well find ourselves working together someday or at the very least sat around the station canteen eating pizza and watching the porn channel.
We need to remember we're all on the same side.

Lenn Brennan

This may be the waiting to apply room but anything that effects the panel will effect those of you waiting to apply (whether the panel is being kept or not). Anyway this whole area is being turned into a complete joke so I still say if the mods are ok with it that we create a new forum and try to get the good days of posting back! I know the trolls and clowns will still be there but we can just let the mods deal with them!

Dan1994

Me again! wrote: »

Like i said before "get a grip!" there seems to be a few people on this forum who have absolutely no tolerance for any opinion other than their own and most of the decent posters seem to get banned for having the audasity to question them, this forum is decending into a farce its half full of gob****es and most are moderators who are wannabie Gardai, pricks of gardai or who had to leave the state to get a job in the police because they couldnt get in here! God I feel great after that! Goodbye,if your going to get banned you might as well do it in style!!

And your the " highly qualified" person who thinks he's better than the average joe who wants to apply!!!

Me again!

Dan1994 wrote: »

Me again! wrote: »

Like i said before "get a grip!" there seems to be a few people on this forum who have absolutely no tolerance for any opinion other than their own and most of the decent posters seem to get banned for having the audasity to question them, this forum is decending into a farce its half full of gob****es and most are moderators who are wannabie Gardai, pricks of gardai or who had to leave the state to get a job in the police because they couldnt get in here! God I feel great after that! Goodbye,if your going to get banned you might as well do it in style!!

And your the " highly qualified" person who thinks he's better than the average joe who wants to apply!!!

Is that you Joe?

Dan1994

Me again! wrote: »

Is that you Joe?

Ye I'm an ordinary person not up my own arse like you!!! Your on here calling people wannabies? when you think you know everything about the job because you have a mate who is a garda

2wsxcde3

It's only natural to feel annoyed with the way things are with the economy at the moment but on here is not the place to vent your frustrations. Buy a stress ball, go start a fight with a tree, eat custard till you pass out - do whatever you want but don't annoy us. It's hard seeing your life pass by and you still not having started your career in AGS and wondering if you ever will ....so be considerate.

Turner

A few people here need to take a chill pill,

If ye don't, we will happily give ye'all a well deserved break from the forum

eroo

Garda Commisioner will be appearing before an Oireachtas Commitee today to discuss community policing. Hopefully someone will highlight the need for a new recruitment campaign to address the issue of low Garda numbers.

tweedledee

Hi, has anybody heard any or seen any figures for total Garda retirements for 2011 and first two months of 2012, now that the last day to avail of old system has passed??? Thanks.

Busi Girl

How long ago have ye been waiting for a call? I'm still in college and I wana go in to the Gardai when I leave so I was just wondering is there any point in even considering it when your always hearing about the waiting lists... :rolleyes:

Geri Boyle

Busi Girl wrote: »

How long ago have ye been waiting for a call? I'm still in college and I wana go in to the Gardai when I leave so I was just wondering is there any point in even considering it when your always hearing about the waiting lists... :rolleyes:

Moved from "The Panel"...

eroo

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1202/1224308474462.html

Shatter explaining how most cars over 300,000km are in ''good nick'', as well as the introduction of taxes to Garda allowances. Unfortunaly, Queen and Obama visits ate into the Garda budget causing a €27.4 million deficit. No mention of recruitment unfortunately.

eroo

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2011-12-01.1030.0&s=garda+recruitment#g1032.0.r

No plan, as of yet, for recruitment in 2012. It's all still a numbers game.

eroo

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/budget/budget-2012-howlin-kicks-off-twoday-cuts-and-taxes-plan-2954182.html

Howlin will be announcing some of the cuts to public service spending today. According to the above article roughly 40 stations will be closing, mainly in Dublin. If the Gardai can achieve the goals set out today and have a surplus in their budget(very unlikely though), they may have funding for a new campaign. Garda numbers are steadily decreasing. At least we should be getting a clearer picture than this time last year.

P.C.Plod

eroo wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/budget/budget-2012-howlin-kicks-off-twoday-cuts-and-taxes-plan-2954182.html

Howlin will be announcing some of the cuts to public service spending today. According to the above article roughly 40 stations will be closing, mainly in Dublin. If the Gardai can achieve the goals set out today and have a surplus in their budget(very unlikely though), they may have funding for a new campaign. Garda numbers are steadily decreasing. At least we should be getting a clearer picture than this time last year.

Very doubtful, thats just wasting money.
It's more likely if they had anything left over for recruiting they'd recruit from the panel. Not start a new campaign.
Realistically no new campaign will start for at least 2 years.
We can all dream

WilcoOut

guys, theyre closing busy stations in dublin during night time hours to save on electricity...............................thats how broke they are!!!!

wont see a recruit going into templemore in 2012 i would suspect, based on that.......

tweedledee

75% of the cuts from Dept of Justice are gona come from Garda funding. Sad to say but it will be a loooooooooooong time before they spend anything on new recruits.
When the Justice minister thinks patrol cars with 300000 on the clock are in good nick and safe to drive, imagine how he feels about Garda recruitment. The silence from the Commissioner speaks a thousand words.

Dan1994

In one of today's papers it read €79 million to slashed from the Garda budget next year through pay and pension savings , 31 stations to close and reduced hours in more , Civilian staff and the Garda Reserve will play much bigger roles in the future.

eroo

Dan1994 wrote: »

In one of today's papers it read €79 million to slashed from the Garda budget next year through pay and pension savings , 31 stations to close and reduced hours in more , Civilian staff and the Garda Reserve will play much bigger roles in the future.

Any link for this?

GRA really need to start being more vocal about everything.
http://budget.breakingnews.ie/news/gardai-closures-will-change-dna-of-policing-in-ireland-531046.html

Dan1994

eroo wrote: »

Any link for this?

GRA really need to start being more vocal about everything.
http://budget.breakingnews.ie/news/gardai-closures-will-change-dna-of-policing-in-ireland-531046.html

Read it in the sun

jk_

Not major news but it does make reference to the new BA in Applied Policing and how it addresses multiculturalism

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/11/22/00336.asp

thekopend

well the auld lad was talking to local chief super recently and he seems to think it will be no sooner than 2 years before recruitment and very possibly up to 4 years, i could not figure out how this would be possible(4 years) untill i read the sunday business post where it said there is the possibility that numbers will be brought down to 12,000 rather than 13,000. this would definitely take 4 years to achieve. the gards are being seriously cut an since this rescission started things have only got worse, and i think its going to keep getting worse for another few years, i recon the long wait is goin to be alot longer than we want it to be esp if it goes to 12,000. i wasn't even goin to say this but i certainly dont think a chief is goin to pull this out off his ar**

P.C.Plod

thekopend wrote: »

well the auld lad was talking to local chief super recently and he seems to think it will be no sooner than 2 years before recruitment and very possibly up to 4 years, i could not figure out how this would be possible(4 years) untill i read the sunday business post where it said there is the possibility that numbers will be brought down to 12,000 rather than 13,000. this would definitely take 4 years to achieve. the gards are being seriously cut an since this rescission started things have only got worse, and i think its going to keep getting worse for another few years, i recon the long wait is goin to be alot longer than we want it to be esp if it goes to 12,000. i wasn't even goin to say this but i certainly dont think a chief is goin to pull this out off his ar**

Personal opinion is not a fact. Unless he's the commissioner or Alan shatter he doesn't have a clue of what is happening.

thekopend

well id go by this kind of information myself, instead of relying on other peoples dreams and hopes.