LIVELINE Thread - (05/10/11 to 14/02/2012)

cock robin

irishh_bob wrote: »

you,d think it was the northern territory of australia they were discussing , this country is full of small towns with stations which are only open for a few days each week anyway , theese small towns are usually only three or four mile from larger towns so if you need a guard , its merley a case of waiting another five mins for the cops to arrive , as for this nonesense about needing a local copper to integrate themselves within the community , guards are not parish priests , only in a darby o gill movie , do they call round on thier bikes asking mrs o brien whether her cat is stuck up a tree

I'd say the guards get stuck into Mrs Ò Briens pussy in some of these boring towns

Wertz

Lambs slaughtered... not dealing with our own homegrown scumbags on this one.

Harry Angstrom

This show is all over the place.

joe316

kitsy13 wrote: »

Gardai cant be in a union

GRA?

http://www.gra.cc/

Wertz

kitsy13 wrote: »

Gardai cant be in a union

Representative authority then... a union in all but name. As public servants they're covered by the same remuneration boards as other public servanst who are covered by actual unions.

irishh_bob

Wertz wrote: »

Listen I agree 100% with you, but even you can see that in times like these, crime will rise and especially in areas where the chances of being caught plummet due to lack of local officers... people at the very least deserve some protection from these vultures. Individual gardaí can't opt for a paycut...it's down to unions. Stuff like reservists are objected to by same unions...neighbourhood watch is grand and all but it's no deterrent to burglars and opportunists.

ever heard of the GRA , the guards have an unofficial union but they are not officially allowed to strike , as for the reserves, the GRA opposed the reserves as they saw them as being a threat to thier full time members , i.e , thier would be less over time available for full time garda :rolleyes:

kitsy13

joe316 wrote: »

GRA?

http://www.gra.cc/

Thats not a union, its a representative association, thats why guards cant go on strike, unions are forbidden

signostic

Martin...nice Gaurd accent there

irishh_bob

kitsy13 wrote: »

Thats not a union, its a representative association, thats why guards cant go on strike, unions are forbidden

no need for semantics

Wertz

haha not the mortgages for their investment and BTL properties they're not.

irishh_bob

any presenter worth his salt would point to the fact that guards are retiring on mass because thier are pension changes coming round the corner , no such luck with guard loving country boy damien

yosser hughes

An objective review. Headed by yourself Martin no doubt.
Are these guards being forced out? I thought it was that they are leaving to protect their current pension entitlements? Not clear on that.
Is this what liveline is now? Anywhere there are cutbacks someone will ring in and complain about it, plead their special case?
I'm afraid ringing Joe or Damo won't do much good. Storm the Daíl and see what the gardai reaction is.

yosser hughes

How valuable are they? he just told you Damo! 10 grand.

irishh_bob

im begining to miss uncle joe , damien is an uncle tom of the highest order

Lapin

Wertz

yosser hughes wrote: »

Storm the Daíl and see what the gardai reaction is.

Exactly.

Wertz

Someone should ask Damo does he prefer grass or astroturf...

syklops

irishh_bob wrote: »

you,d think it was the northern territory of australia they were discussing , this country is full of small towns with stations which are only open for a few days each week anyway , theese small towns are usually only three or four mile from larger towns so if you need a guard , its merley a case of waiting another five mins for the cops to arrive , as for this nonesense about needing a local copper to integrate themselves within the community , guards are not parish priests , only in a darby o gill movie , do they call round on thier bikes asking mrs o brien whether her cat is stuck up a tree

I was going to multi quote you but you didnt make it easy as that is all one sentence.

this country is full of small towns with stations which are only open for a few days each week anyway

So its ok to close them completely?

, theese small towns are usually only three or four mile from larger towns

My hometown of Craughwell is one such village/town with no fulltime guard, and the barracks open 3 days a week until 4pm, is 10km from Athenry, 12km from Loughrea, 37km to Balinasloe and 15 km to Oranmore. It is quite densely populated compared to West Cork where that caller came from.

its merley a case of waiting another five mins for the cops to arrive

This is the laughable part of your post. Even if you lived on store street in Dublin you would expect to wait longer than 5 mins for one to show up. Living 25 km from Galway city the two or three times we had to call a guard out it was an hour or more until they got someone out to us. Including the time when we disturbed the burglar.

irishh_bob

what is our national costume , its certainly a question which keeps me up at night :mad:

irishh_bob

syklops wrote: »

I was going to multi quote you but you didnt make it easy as that is all one sentence.


So its ok to close them completely?



My hometown of Craughwell is one such village/town with no fulltime guard, and the barracks open 3 days a week until 4pm, is 10km from Athenry, 12km from Loughrea, 37km to Balinasloe and 15 km to Oranmore. It is quite densely populated compared to West Cork where that caller came from.


This is the laughable part of your post. Even if you lived on store street in Dublin you would expect to wait longer than 5 mins for one to show up. Living 25 km from Galway city the two or three times we had to call a guard out it was an hour or more until they got someone out to us. Including the time when we disturbed the burglar.

the fact that the guards usually arrive long after a crime has been committed , what difference does it make if they have to travel eight mile rather than four ?

we live in a sparsley populated country , we cant afford to have garda stations in every little village , most of the policing budget goes on paying our force more than 25% in excess of what they get in the uk

Wertz

The way we're going it'll be a deerskin and wooden shoes.

IvyTheTerrible

irishh_bob wrote: »

the fact that the guards usually arrive long after a crime has been committed , what difference does it make if they have to travel eight mile rather than four ?

Cos if they have to travel 4 miles instead of 8, they get there in half the time? :rolleyes:

syklops

irishh_bob wrote: »

the fact that the guards usually arrive long after a crime has been committed , what difference does it make if they have to travel eight mile rather than four ?

You obviously missed my point. You also dont seem interested in engaging in the matter, only one-liners so I wont bother my arse and leave it there.

However I stand by my original comment.

irishh_bob

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Cos if they have to travel 4 miles instead of 8, they get there in half the time? :rolleyes:

so what , if a crime is committed at 2pm , what does it matter if the cops arrive at 2.40 instead of 2.30 pm , the bad guys are long gone

telekon

Jaysus, Damo...Joe would have rudely interrupted her by now with her boring nonsense...

Wertz

It's as well she's talking to Damo....at the first mention of G Ryan, Joe would have been going to another caller.

syklops

Wertz wrote: »

It's as well she's talking to Damo....a the first mention of G Ryan, Joe would have been going to another caller.

We got an ad break instead.

IvyTheTerrible

irishh_bob wrote: »

so what , if a crime is committed at 2pm , what does it matter if the cops arrive at 2.40 instead of 2.30 pm , the bad guys are long gone

It would to me, I suppose.

Wertz

Oh that's it I'm out.

syklops

And what do you sell?