LIVELINE Thread - (05/10/11 to 14/02/2012)

my friend

Lapin wrote: »

Nobody is suggesting that its the state's fault but one way I would measure the quality of any nation is the manner in which the most vulnerable citizens are treated.

And today I rate my own country very badly indeed.

We're not that bankrupt that we cannot provide for those who rely on us.

Hit the €500 million foreign aid budget to begin with and start looking after our own citizens first.

+1

neris

Dublin_Mom wrote: »

I have to say there is a HUGE entitlement attitude in this country....

Totally agree and its from the top down aswell

JonathanAnon

I hope we have another blast of Sammy Sausages during the break.. :pac:

JonathanAnon

Lapin wrote: »

Hit the €500 million foreign aid budget to begin with and start looking after our own citizens first.

I think they did cut €150 million didnt they?

Harry Angstrom

Lapin wrote: »

We're not that bankrupt that we cannot provide for those who rely on us.

Well said.
Bertie and Biffo on €150,000 pensions, not to mention Noel Dumbsey, Ray Burke, Bull O'Donoghue, Dermot Aherne et al. all on over 100k, while people on social welfare are being cut. So much for us being bankrupt :rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989

Thats a bad line

That_Guy

Joe is some fúcking cretin.

my friend

hi Mork !

Oh_Noes

Is that "Mork" like "Mork and Mindy" ?

No1J

No one to polish his car, or nothing.:(

JonathanAnon

"What's his difference?"

Is this Joe's new uber politically correct euphemism?

Spudmonkey

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Well said.
Bertie and Biffo on €150,000 pensions, not to mention Noel Dumbsey, Ray Burke, Bull O'Donoghue, Dermot Aherne et al. all on over 100k, while people on social welfare are being cut. So much for us being bankrupt :rolleyes:

Even if savings were made from all those, it doesn't mean welfare wouldn't be cut. Not saying they shouldn't be but its not a magic bullet.

Dublin_Mom

sounds like this woman has a lifetime of bitterness built up...

syklops

I have a friend who is deaf but would deny he is disabled.

I'm just saying.

IvyTheTerrible

I feel for that woman, but don't agree with her making judgements on people using disability stickers...stinks of hypocrisy tbh.

my friend

syklops wrote: »

I have a friend who is deaf but would deny he is disabled.

I'm just saying.

I'm guessing her son is very strong and independently minded if ya know what I mean

syklops

my friend wrote: »

I'm guessing her son is very strong and independently minded if ya know what I mean

I don't follow.

my friend

man had one sick child

man had 2nd sick child

state looked after them and him

now he is asked to share some pain

bitterness and bile explodes

grateful? nevah !

Dublin_Mom

Just wondering, there must be a lot of these families with genetic issues, thats the third family I think with more than one disabled child....

Harry Angstrom

Spudmonkey wrote: »

Even if savings were made from all those, it doesn't mean welfare wouldn't be cut. Not saying they shouldn't be but its not a magic bullet.

It's the optics. How can a government stand over a cut to people with disabilites when arseholes like Bertie and Biffo are creaming it off the State with their ridiculous pensions?

This whole thing about all people sharing the burden is a load of shyte. I think a lot of people might be able to stomach the cuts if they saw that the people at the top were being cut substantially as well.

telekon

That's it Joe, f*ck the Cork caller off for one from the pale...good man. :rolleyes:

Lapin

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I think they did cut €150 million didnt they?

Not sure but I'd still prefer to see whatever we give go to our citizens than this lot.

my friend

syklops wrote: »

I don't follow.

i know of a lad like that, Gardai involved when he hits the sauce

they don't bother picking him up until they have about 10 Gardai available

SEPT 23 1989

Dublin_Mom wrote: »

Just wondering, there must be a lot of these families with genetic issues, thats the third family I think with more than one disabled child....

Personally i would not roll the dice again

jetfiremuck

Thats YOURE responsibility, its your kid. If you had one disabled child why would you have another child ffs. I wouldnt. Also demanding places in school same as ordinary kids when an assessment of their abilities would clearly show that college etc would be of no benefit but insisting that they are integrated just to have the same chances.

Lady Chatterton

Dublin_Mom wrote: »

Just wondering, there must be a lot of these families with genetic issues, thats the third family I think with more than one disabled child....

True, but sometimes in the case of conditions like autism, a family can have three children before the first child is diagnosed. When they test the other children, they also can have it.

IvyTheTerrible

my friend wrote: »

i know of a lad like that, Gardai involved when he hits the sauce

they don't bother picking him up until they have about 10 Gardai available

So if you're deaf and independent you are a danger? Right.

JonathanAnon

Mary Wilson got the promo going before Duffy .. he wont like that..

Zwillinge

And here we go...I guess...

Well I'm delightfully miserable now!
He better be a bit more chipper tomorrow and make his weird noises, gasps and try 'n' sell his book to us!

syklops

Dublin_Mom wrote: »

Just wondering, there must be a lot of these families with genetic issues, thats the third family I think with more than one disabled child....

In my primary school there were 3 or 4 kids with a range of special needs between cleft pallets and dwarfism and other things.

There are some very bad genes out there unfortunately.