LIVELINE Thread - (05/10/11 to 14/02/2012)

Big Daddy Cool

see how caring joe will be in a couple of minutes, nearly time for break.

Wertz

Stay there back after these

SEPT 23 1989

I feel very sorry for these people but jaysus this is depressing stuff for a rainy Monday afternoon

jetfiremuck

The makings of one flew over the cuckoo nest part 2 . The dummy(joe) talking to another dummy.

Wertz

Yeah, excellent question... the management of these places obviously haven't asked it of themselves...

sudzs

Didn't this get a mention on the Marion Finucane show over the weekend aswell... I just heard a bit of it.


Gawd, Joe is really hamming this up.... the "laydees" wanting to go out and the "laydees that aare not allowed go out.... de friction that will ensue... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Lapin

You send us this.....

sudzs wrote: »

30+ degrees

.....and we'll send you this.

Zwillinge

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I feel very sorry for these people but jaysus this is depressing stuff for a rainy Monday afternoon

Just what I was thinking.

Our facilites for those with Mental conditions is terrible though!!

JonathanAnon

"This is not for the good of the women this is for the good of the HSE"..

ah get off your soap box Joe... The Croke Park Agreement means they cant make the necessary cuts to pay so othey have to make the changes somewhere... People in the HSE on six figures sums like Joe Duffy, milking the system, are part of the reason there is no money for other people in society

jetfiremuck

Wtf is this inquisition. Does joe serve on a mental health tribunal.

sudzs

Lapin wrote: »

You send us this.....



.....and we'll send you this.

That's not Barry's though, is it?!!

jetfiremuck

Who changes channels......the remote nurse

Zwillinge

Is Joe asking why the patients aren't interested in the TV?
Sure it's probably only RTÉ!!

Wertz

Is there a radio? There's a loaded question...

Big Daddy Cool

there seems to be nothing to do in these places except smoke, which is also bad for their health

Lapin

sudzs wrote: »

That's not Barry's though, is it?!!

Bah to Barry's.

Cork Muck.

Long live Lyons

europa11

"could yiz not make a cup of tea for yerselves?"

Good idea Joe, let mental patients have access to scalding water.

That_Guy

Joe:

SEPT 23 1989

I think we would all go a bit funny if we had to spend a week in those conditions

syklops

What exactly is Joe hoping to get from all this.

I mean I know its very sad, but this woman was in there because she was self harming. So you cant have too much privacy because they need to be able to see what your doing.

You cant have the telly on a table, it has to be high up because someone might break the glass and use it to harm them selves.

Its sad, conditions are terrible, but whats the alternative?

sudzs

europa11 wrote: »

Good idea Joe, let mental patients have access to scalding water.

and Live Line!! :eek:

SEPT 23 1989

I wonder which PR Company would that be?

Big Daddy Cool

sudzs wrote: »

and Live Line!! :eek:

god no!!! they'd be twice as bad if they had to listen to that

syklops

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I think we would all go a bit funny if we had to spend a week in those conditions

Would you not have to be a bit funny to be in there already?

Lapin

[QUOTE=JonathanAnon;75960653 The Croke Park Agreement means they cant make the necessary cuts to pay........[/QUOTE]

Anyone hear Mattie McGrath on the box last night saying the Croke Park Agreement needs to be scaled down to Aviva Stadium proportions !

I don't normally agree with Mattie, but I had a good laugh at that one.

Big Daddy Cool

nearly time for a break

Zwillinge

Seriously, if kept in a locked ward like that, especially when not used to it... Their minds could even get worse and more damaged

sudzs

syklops wrote: »

Would you not have to be a bit funny to be in there already?

As in Funny Friday????

JonathanAnon

europa11 wrote: »

"could yiz not make a cup of tea for yerselves?"
Good idea Joe, let mental patients have access to scalding water.

I think Joe's whole approach to this subject is wrong.. You'd swear the State was holding these people against their will for the State's own interest, like the way Stalin used to send people he didnt like to the gulags..

Even the people ring in admit that they werent well enough to be allowed free... There is no immediate cure for most mental afflictions, the familes are incapable of caring for the individuals, so it falls back on the State to provide care...

Wertz

syklops wrote: »

What exactly is Joe hoping to get from all this.

I mean I know its very sad, but this woman was in there because she was self harming. So you cant have too much privacy because they need to be able to see what your doing.

You cant have the telly on a table, it has to be high up because someone might break the glass and use it to harm them selves.

Its sad, conditions are terrible, but whats the alternative?

To be fair to him, he's trying to paint a picture of what it's like under secure conditions, for those of us who'll never have the pleasure.
Ultimately I think he wants to point out the injustice of placing non risk patients into a secure ward, possibly leaving them at risk from other patients and also depriving them of their liberty at a time like chritsmas.

Don;t know what good it'll do, perhaps apply pressure in the right places and have this decision reversed...