LIVELINE Thread - (05/10/11 to 14/02/2012)

Big Daddy Cool

this is a national disaster, eh dont think its that bad now, did he not hear theres 5 women locked in a ward for xmas

my friend

John Corcoran = Irelands biggest WHINER

Korkys is still open on Grafton Street

Why is Joe allowing this fool airtime to LIE ?

Grafton Street has not got the highest rents in the world !!! lmao

pc7

JonathanAnon wrote: »

You missed my take on the ad..

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ha ha ha that's brillian Ryan..... lol I mean JA, very good.

Rosiestar

I am really shocked and horrified by some of the comments on here about severe mental illness by total ignorant people, all I can say is walk a day in my shoes and you will know the devastation caused by schizophrenia and bipolar and the bucketful of medication that I have to take morning, noon and night and over 60 ECT treatments I have had to undergo and that was only in the past 8 years, although I have had this illness over 20 years now.

I am disgusted by these comments. This is worse than stigma.

JonathanAnon

pc7 wrote: »

ha ha ha that's brillian Ryan..... lol I mean JA, very good.

I'm thinking of doing a version of the second ad, with a machine gun... I find the second ad almost completely indiscernible... you would wonder why they let it air, the message is confusing ... in a stupid voice and two languages..

IvyTheTerrible

mickydoomsux wrote: »

You're sort of proving my point. If someone so much as questions the "depression epidemic" they get treated like a pariah.

We need to be more honest about it really, rather than speaking in hushed tones and "ah, sure the poor lad is not well"-ing every time someone even suggests they might be a bit depressed.

Hold on a second. Where I'm I treating you like a pariah I'm not saying that there are people who perhaps say they are depressed when it's not proven. But schizophrenia and manic depression are diagnosed via diagnostic tests.

Wertz

my friend wrote: »

John Corcoran = Irelands biggest WHINER

Korkys is still open on Grafton Street

Why is Joe allowing this fool airtime to LIE ?

Grafton Street has not got the highest rents in the world !!! lmao

Is that the shoe shop? Sure last time I heard him on the radio he was going to be bankrupt the following week or something. That was well over a year ago IIRC.

dulpit

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I'm thinking of doing a version of the second ad, with a machine gun... I find the second ad almost completely indiscernible... you would wonder why they let it air, the message is confusing ... in a stupid voice and two languages..

3 languages, he also says Jambo

JonathanAnon

dulpit wrote: »

3 languages, he also says Jambo

aha... couldnt work out what the hell that was..

god that version of Fairytale by George Murphy and yer wan is ROUGH..

Lapin

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

George the Butcher on Mooney

Its a friggin disgrace the way Mooney shamlessly promotes the bastardisation of the original song on his show.

AnnyHallsal

Rosiestar wrote: »

I am really shocked and horrified by some of the comments on here about severe mental illness by total ignorant people, all I can say is walk a day in my shoes and you will know the devastation caused by schizophrenia and bipolar and the bucketful of medication that I have to take morning, noon and night and over 60 ECT treatments I have had to undergo and that was only in the past 8 years, although I have had this illness over 20 years now.

I am disgusted by these comments. This is worse than stigma.

I wouldn't worry. Most reasonable people realise that the majority of mental illnesses have a physiological grounding, no different from any other kind of disease. Advances in neurology continue to demonstrate that what was once thought to reside in the mind or the character is largely influenced by the chemistry of the brain.

To argue that the mentally ill are in general weak or culpable is ignorant and scientifically inaccurate. Most sufferers of mental illness are unlucky, nothing else, no different to any other biological imbalance.

Harry Angstrom

AnnyHallsal wrote: »

I wouldn't worry. Most reasonable people realise that the majority of mental illnesses have a physiological grounding, no different from any other kind of disease. Advances in neurology continue to demonstrate that what was once thought to reside in the mind or the character is largely influenced by the chemistry of the brain.

Pat Kenny did a very good piece about this on his Monday morning show.

miketv

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Pat Kenny did a very good piece about this on his Monday morning show.

A professional broadcaster, as for Duffy...ammmm no

yosser hughes

Rosiestar wrote: »

I am really shocked and horrified by some of the comments on here about severe mental illness by total ignorant people, all I can say is walk a day in my shoes and you will know the devastation caused by schizophrenia and bipolar and the bucketful of medication that I have to take morning, noon and night and over 60 ECT treatments I have had to undergo and that was only in the past 8 years, although I have had this illness over 20 years now.

I am disgusted by these comments. This is worse than stigma.

Rosie,I wouldn't worry about what random people write on internet message boards.It ain't worth it.

withless

Joe is a necromancer of the living. I know that doesn't make sense but it feels right after the past few episodes.

europa11

The Great Man just on RC giving his preamble.

Having a go at the proposed €100 Household Charge today, presumably to beef up his "Socialist" credentials.

Wonder would the subject of how an annual RTE Licence Fee of €160 that this overpaid Disciple of Connolly paradoxically justifies get past the researchers?

Considering that (afaik) it's proposed to eventually merge these Charges in the not-too-distant future, might be interesting to get Joes' take on "anudder unjustifiable stealth tax on de most vunerable peeple by the gubbermint". Bet he won't be long shutting his trap if they are merged.

syklops

europa11 wrote: »

The Great Man just on RC giving his preamble.

Having a go at the proposed €100 Household Charge today, presumably to beef up his "Socialist" credentials.

Wonder would the subject of how an annual RTE Licence Fee of €160 that this overpaid Disciple of Connolly paradoxically justifies get past the researchers?

Considering that (afaik) it's proposed to eventually merge these Charges in the not-too-distant future, might be interesting to get Joes' take on "anudder unjustifiable stealth tax on de most vunerable peeple by the gubbermint". Bet he won't be long shutting his trap if they are merged.

I wont be paying this household charge. Mostly because I dont live within the state nor own a house but thats a side issue.

No offence to other liveline listening boardsies who will have to pay the tax but I don't have a lot of sympathy for people complaining about it. I read all over boards "have nothing left, cant feed kids etc". We are talking about 2 euros a week. Just like the Television license you will probably be able to pay it off week by week. If they said nothing about it and added it on to the ESB bill every month most people wouldn't even notice it.

The most vulnerable in society line, is getting very tired when you use it to describe people who own houses or who are paying off mortgages.

mickydoomsux

The state broadcaster is seriously going to have people on complaining about a €100 charge on owning a house and receiving a water supply when the self-same broadcaster receives funding from a €160 charge on owning a goddamn television?

Ireland: Land of the ****ed Up Priorities.

Stripey Cat

Just like the Television license you will probably be able to pay it off week by week.

You can't pay off your tv licence by the week can you? You have to have a licence, so while you can save up for your next one by paying stamps or whatever, at some point you have to put up the full amount in one go.

JonathanAnon

We're run by Europe, and these people's priority is making sure that 50% of the puppet Government is women... have these idiots got no perspective at all?

Wertz

Stripey Cat wrote: »

You can't pay off your tv licence by the week can you? You have to have a licence, so while you can save up for your next one by paying stamps or whatever, at some point you have to put up the full amount in one go.

You can do the stamps buying thing. You also have the option of getting shot of your telly... not really an option with a house.

The "it's only €2 a week" is a bit of a tired argument...sure you can break any annual charge down to it's weekly total.
I think what I have most against this is it's a flat fee across the board, despite your means, size of family, value of property, employment status...okay so they need to draw up a proper system and also need the money yesterday...why not cut welfare by a small margin and a small income tax raise, instead of this stealth bullsh*t? There's less actual impact on people and you don;t give people a chance to dodge it or make it an issue of protest.

AnnyHallsal

Wertz wrote: »

You can do the stamps buying thing. You also have the option of getting shot of your telly... not really an option with a house.

The "it's only €2 a week" is a bit of a tired argument...sure you can break any annual charge down to it's weekly total.
I think what I have most against this is it's a flat fee across the board, despite your means, size of family, value of property, employment status...okay so they need to draw up a proper system and also need the money yesterday...why not cut welfare by a small margin and a small income tax raise, instead of this stealth bullsh*t? There's less actual impact on people and you don;t give people a chance to dodge it or make it an issue of protest.

I think the flat charge is to protect Fine Gael's interests. They don't want their well-off voters angered by having to pay more. The tax side of the budget "the best budget for developers in years" made that clear.

syklops

Stripey Cat wrote: »

You can't pay off your tv licence by the week can you? You have to have a licence, so while you can save up for your next one by paying stamps or whatever, at some point you have to put up the full amount in one go.

No. You can pay it in arrears. You go into the Post Office and get the stamp book. After the first payment you get a license, and you can go in every week or so and get another stamp.

Big Daddy Cool

can i just say i was temporarily let go a couple of weeks ago but that i have no problem paying the 2 euro a week house tax thing , although i might have a problem with it if i cant afford the last going home pint on a saturday night :P.

pc7

Wonder will he bring up the Siptu "training" fund today, what a scam, can't wait for more details to come out on where that 1.5 million went.

syklops

Wertz wrote: »

.why not cut welfare by a small margin and a small income tax raise, instead of this stealth bullsh*t? There's less actual impact on people and you don;t give people a chance to dodge it or make it an issue of protest.

You think cutting social welfare and a 'small' increase in income tax wouldn't give people a chance to make an issue out of it? If they had done that then we would be onto week two of the budget moaning with everyone bearing the brunt. Both people in employment and not.

This tax is paid by home owners. Be out of work, or be struggling to pay bills and I will feel sorry for you, but I wont feel sorry for the security you have of having your own roof above your head, and for that you now have to pay a small premium.

AnnyHallsal

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

can i just say i was temporarily let go a couple of weeks ago but that i have no problem paying the 2 euro a week house tax thing , although i might have a problem with it if i cant afford the last going home pint on a saturday night :P.

I don't find it surprising that people are angry their meagre incomes are being depleted to fund the transfer of hundreds of millions to unsecured bondholders. The best economists in the country are infuriated by the economic illiteracy of the policy. It's also bad for the domestic economy as that's 100 euro less disposable income people have to spend in local businesses.

JonathanAnon

Is that Lee Bradshaw of The Restaurant (Waiter) and Eurovision fame.. ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYzXg8qYxj4

Skid

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Is that Lee Bradshaw of The Restaurant (Waiter) and Eurovision fame.. ?



The very same.

He got it on Fade Street, what more can the man do? :rolleyes:

orourkeda

Sounded like a threat to me