Why wasn't McGuinness arrested?

gbee

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

what you think i feel ,like all irish ,

What did you do in 1976 Bloody Sunday?

KELTICKNIGHTT

gbee wrote: »

Brilliant. I've been to commemoration ceremonies where I was told they'd take the .303 out the shed and kill him again [?] to Easter Commemorations where seven organisations come to lay their wreathes and yet each absolutely hate each other ~ I'm not possessed of that hate ~ but each bullet fired makes a new splinter ~ we need another Collins, simple as.

im not a sein fein supporter or of their views,i have never liked adams or mc guinness because of their links and what happened to innocent people,don't buy into the excuse about it was war as they where no better than the british troops where,but too kill your own irish people ,thats low

gbee

gbee wrote: »

What did you do in 1976 Bloody Sunday?

For my part, I put black cloth over my petrol pumps in Moremiles, Dublin Road, Cork. I also put the number 13 in white paint on the black cloth.

I closed the diesel pump.

I was the attendant on duty as the news broke. *live *

audi a4 2008

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

what you think i feel ,like all irish ,what the british did to irish in both bloody sundays both 1920 and 1972 , upset and angry among other things
yes we have peace by all party's in north including adams and mc Guinness ,too right they should ring peace as they caused a lot of the troubles their,so you should bloody fix it in the north,as killing people by bombs and guns wasn't working and they where losing support

but i wont vote for a terrorist or ex terrorist and a liar , but to each their own

i will tell him that when i see him,he will be dissapointed but will respect youre view as i will.:)

KELTICKNIGHTT

gbee wrote: »

What did you do in 1976 Bloody Sunday?

i was 13 years old

KELTICKNIGHTT

audi a4 2008 wrote: »

i will tell him that when i see him,he will be dissapointed but will respect youre view as i will.:)

i sure he give a thought as i dont

audi a4 2008

right lads im off to bed it has been another interesting night from all
its nice to have a debate with people and that can keep it civil.

foggy_lad

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

If their constituents aren't happy with their policy then they can just refuse to vote for them, as they continue to get elected then it is clear that a certain percentage of the community are satisfied with the policy. That is democracy for you.

Well i would not have liked to do anything unfriendly towards a hoard of murdering extortionist terrorists during those troubles in the north as i would have found myself burnt out by sinn fein/ira or just shot in the back as a warning to other constitiunts.

so many years of torturous extortion and intimidation from the murdering ira and sinn fein is very hard to set aside and almost impossible for people to vote the way they actually want to!

keithob wrote: »

This whole circus is emabrrassing.

Lets take things in context.... MMG was a senior provo ... fighting against the brits for ultimately catholic equality and 32 counties... do you blame him? If i was in his shoes at that age of life i would have easily picked up a gun or planted a bomb to stand up for my people..... would you not?

A war was in place and people on all sides lost their lives, sad as it is, thats war. We are where we are now because of the brits.

Millions didn't pick up any weapons as they did not want to be associated with murderers whose primary motives were intimidation extortion and lining their own pockets! Targeting postmen or milkmen who delivered to ruc stations, or window cleaners, that is not war it is MURDER!

bobbysands81 wrote: »

You think? It could easily be argued that the President is for ALL of Ireland according to our Constitution, and not just the Republic of Ireland.

Article 12

1. There shall be a President of Ireland (Uachtarán na hÉireann), hereinafter called the President, who shall take precedence over all other persons in the State and who shall exercise and perform the powers and functions conferred on the President by this Constitution and by law.

The state is Ireland the 26 county republic, the Irish state no longer lays any claim to the 6 counties of Northern Ireland!

Why cant mcGuinness realise this? how the hell can this cretin be president when he cant understand or accept one of the simplist and most basic parts of the constitution?

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Define Ireland Liam?

To me, Ireland consists of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, two separate administrations on the same island (of Ireland).

I genuinely thought that was accepted by all... are you saying you don't accept it?

Again that is the IRA and Real IRA version of Ireland/Republic of Ireland/the Irish state!

if Wee Martín McGuinness wants to be the next mary in the park he will have to forget ALL of his old IRA ways and teachings.

You can teach an old dog new tricks but you cant stop a dog biting once he has maimed a few dozen sheep!

Pompey Magnus

foggy_lad wrote: »

Well i would not have liked to do anything unfriendly towards a hoard of murdering extortionist scumbags during those troubles in the north as i would have found myself burnt out by sinn fein/ira or just shot in the back as a warning to other constitiunts.

Actually they have this clever thing known as a secret ballot which kinda renders your point invalid and indeed can only be described as ridiculous. Have you any figures for the number of nationalists in the North who were killed by the IRA because they somehow discovered that they were secretly voting SDLP and how does your point explain the SF vote actually increasing significantly after the ceasefire?

Come on, if you are going to make stuff up at least make it half credible next time.

Wider Road

foggy_lad wrote: »

Well i would not have liked to do anything unfriendly towards a hoard of murdering extortionist scumbags during those troubles in the north as i would have found myself burnt out by sinn fein/ira or just shot in the back as a warning to other constitiunts.

so many years of torturous extortion and intimidation from the murdering ira and sinn fein is very hard to set aside and almost impossible for people to vote the way they actually want to!

Millions didn't pick up any weapons as they did not want to be associated with murderers whose primary motives were intimidation extortion and lining their own pockets! Targeting postmen or milkmen who delivered to ruc stations, or window cleaners, that is not war it is MURDER!

The state is Ireland the 26 county republic, the Irish state no longer lays any claim to the 6 counties of Northern Ireland!

Why cant mcGuinness realise this? how the hell can this cretin be president when he cant understand or accept one of the simplist and most basic parts of the constitution?

Again that is the IRA and Real IRA version of Ireland/Republic of Ireland/the Irish state!

if Wee Martín McGuinness wants to be the next mary in the park he will have to forget ALL of his old IRA ways and teachings.

You can teach an old dog new tricks but you cant stop a dog biting once he has maimed a few dozen sheep! The only option is to shoot him!

(Formerly Wide Road)
What is your opinion of Kathleen Lynch's husband, Brendan? His wife and his brother, (Labour TD's) refuse to comment on the fact that he was convicted (along with others) of the murder of Larry White. Brendan got off on a technicality, ie warrant out of date.
Have you any concerns with this story?

Pat D. Almighty

foggy_lad wrote: »

Honestly who would even want to sit or stand next to a man of violence like mcGuinness? He was very high up in the IRA up to recent times and has lied througghout about this and other issues.

He arranged for people to be shot blown apart etc for years and now we are supposed to say all is forgiven Martin? Especially considering the man can't accept even now that the republic he wants to represent is 26 counties and not 32.

Other than barstool hearsay, you have absolutely no evidence for anything you've just posted.

RandomName2

foggy_lad wrote: »

Millions didn't pick up any weapons as they did not want to be associated with murderers whose primary motives were intimidation extortion and lining their own pockets! Targeting postmen or milkmen who delivered to ruc stations, or window cleaners, that is not war it is MURDER!

ffs foggylad most people who are planning to vote for MMcG are doing so because of his past. Most others who are planning to vote for him are doing so because of the peace process, and a couple are doing so along party lines.

Liam Byrne

bobbysands81 wrote: »

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

gerry mc cabe wasnt part of the northern troubles,he lived in limerick,so dont dare make him part of sf ira crap list,a bunch of murdering IRA ass$%£ killed him in a village outside limerick city at a robbery by these ira thugs while he was trying to protect people there ,he was murdered in republic of ireland and not in northern ireland where troubles where ,

Jerry McCabe's death was wrong. Plain and simple.

In the hierarchy of deaths though he's right at the top.

Almost agree, apart from the use of the passive word 'death' instead of a more appropriate word that emphasises the fact that he was unlawfully murdered by a bunch of thugs.

allroad

I didn't know SF shot people who wouldn't vote for them. Are they going to do the same in the presidential election? Does the government know about this?
Thank you, Foggy, for bringing this to the attention of the voting public.

You really couldn't buy this stuff.
So far it would appear that countries need to invade other countries, just to tidy things up. Good man Richard.

Ireland is a 26 county island, with a bit of Britain glued on at the top. (I think you'll find that Articles 2 and 3 claimed sovereignty over the glued on bit up until the Good Friday Agreement. That must have been when somebody noticed that the sticky out bit shouldn't have been there and the people weren't Irish after all.)

MMG is a mad dog who needs shot, (although, in fairness, the fact that he thought he was in Ireland at the time he was doing what Irishmen do when fighting invaders, should be regarded as mitigating circumstances. No excuse for him now, however. Oh wait...)

The best bit so far, in my opinion, has to be Kelticknightt's "check your grammer/spelling".
What are others thoughts/conditioned responses?

KELTICKNIGHTT

gbee wrote: »

OK sharing a story, I gave out loads to my wife for shaking McGuinnesse's Hand when he was down for an Easter cleeb a few years ago and we were covering it for the local paper ~ at the time we were expecting 'proof' that Mc had fired the first shots that lead to the 1976 massacre and I did not shake his hand.

"Strangely" the 'official' report exonerates McGunnness ~ I had to apologise to my wife.

apologise to wife is good idea but i wouldn't too mmg as i wouldn't even touch his hand.

KELTICKNIGHTT

allroad wrote: »

I didn't know SF shot people who wouldn't vote for them. Are they going to do the same in the presidential election? Does the government know about this?
Thank you, Foggy, for bringing this to the attention of the voting public.

You really couldn't buy this stuff.
So far it would appear that countries need to invade other countries, just to tidy things up. Good man Richard.

Ireland is a 26 county island, with a bit of Britain glued on at the top. (I think you'll find that Articles 2 and 3 claimed sovereignty over the glued on bit up until the Good Friday Agreement. That must have been when somebody noticed that the sticky out bit shouldn't have been there and the people weren't Irish after all.)

MMG is a mad dog who needs shot, (although, in fairness, the fact that he thought he was in Ireland at the time he was doing what Irishmen do when fighting invaders, should be regarded as mitigating circumstances. No excuse for him now, however. Oh wait...)

The best bit so far, in my opinion, has to be Kelticknightt's "check your grammer/spelling".
What are others thoughts/conditioned responses?

theres irish both north and south but 6 counties for now is part of uk ,not nice but it is for now ,mcguinness is being extra careful in what he says otherwise handcuffs .

Funfair

Wider Road wrote: »

(Formerly Wide Road)
What is your opinion of Kathleen Lynch's husband, Brendan? His wife and his brother, (Labour TD's) refuse to comment on the fact that he was convicted (along with others) of the murder of Larry White. Brendan got off on a technicality, ie warrant out of date.
Have you any concerns with this story?

Who's Kathleen Lynch and Larry White ?

audi a4 2008

Funfair wrote: »

Who's Kathleen Lynch and Larry White ?

are u serious

Wider Road

Funfair wrote: »

Who's Kathleen Lynch and Larry White ?

K Lynch is the comedian on RTE 2 & Larry White is more commonly known as Lauren Blanc, world cup winner with the French and also French soccer manager!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grow up.

Kathleen Lynch(Labour TD & MINISTER) is married to Brendan Lynch, a man that spent a year in prison for murdering Larry White in a machine gun attack. Brendan was aquitted when it was discovered that a warrant was out of date. Kathleen Lynch has her husband employed in the present govt. Brendan Lynch's brother is Ciaran Lynch, a Labour TD in Cork.
For some strange reason Kathleen & Ciaran Lynch have had no comment to make regarding Brendan's role in the murder of Larry White!!!

Funfair

audi a4 2008 wrote: »

are u serious

Yeah why?

Don't tell me they're running for President aswell..

Funfair

Wider Road wrote: »

K Lynch is the comedian on RTE 2 & Larry White is more commonly known as Lauren Blanc, world cup winner with the French and also French soccer manager!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grow up.

I preferred you when you were "wide road"..:)

Was reading the thread and all of a sudden a Lynch and a Larry was brought into the argument about "Why wasn't Mcguinness arrested" so I asked who the hell are these 2, what's up with that?

Wider Road wrote: »

Kathleen Lynch(Labour TD & MINISTER) is married to Brendan Lynch, a man that spent a year in prison for murdering Larry White in a machine gun attack. Brendan was aquitted when it was discovered that a warrant was out of date. Kathleen Lynch has her husband employed in the present govt. Brendan Lynch's brother is Ciaran Lynch, a Labour TD in Cork.
For some strange reason Kathleen & Ciaran Lynch have had no comment to make regarding Brendan's role in the murder of Larry White!!!

Thanks for the info... but again what has this got to do with MMG ? was Lynch in the IRA ? or was Martin sleeping with Kathleen ?

Hannibal

Liam Byrne wrote: »

In the Jerry McCabe case they couldn't get the witness who could prove it was a planned murder to testify and had to settle for a manslaughter charge.

So the same could be the case with McGuinness.......I mean, if his organisation went around kneecapping and "disappearing" people, who do you think would testify ?

Jerry McCabe wasn't a "planned murder" Liam.

It was a planned robbery of money from An Post van. Quite what this has to do with Martin McGuinness is beyond me, Sinn Fein has consistently said it was wrong so what more do you want? The robbery wasn't sanctioned by the IRA, it was IRA men basically lining their own pockets and when it went wrong they used their membership to claim POW status etc..

Sinn Fein lobbied for the men's release as they qualified for release under the GFA regardless of what they done. If Sinn Fein turned their back on the men they risked alienating hardcore republicans and possibly turning some people to turn their back on the peace process thus making Sinn Fein irrelevent in the influence of the decision making of the IRA. There was much bigger issues around at the time that SF was dealing with than the death of one man and in delicate negotiations with the IRA they basically had to support all members' release in return for peace regardless of what act they committed was.

I personally have always accepted McGuinness and Adams' word on their alleged IRA membership. Both are two of the most skilled politicians the country has ever produced and both had the ability to see the bigger picture of the conflict and through their political skills and influence they gained and could hold over 90% of republicans they moved republican thinking away from armed fighting and into politics. I have no doubt that only for these two there would still be armed conflict on the island and this fact has to be remembered.

Liam Byrne

Dotsey wrote: »

Jerry McCabe wasn't a "planned murder" Liam.

It was a planned robbery of money from An Post van.

And yet with one Garda murdered and one injured they took no cash. OK - I'll suspend my requirement for credibility.

Dotsey wrote: »

The robbery wasn't sanctioned by the IRA, it was IRA men basically lining their own pockets and when it went wrong they used their membership to claim POW status etc..

Sinn Fein lobbied for the men's release as they qualified for release under the GFA regardless of what they done.

If it wasn't sanctioned then they didn't qualify.

Dotsey wrote: »

If Sinn Fein turned their back on the men they risked alienating hardcore republicans and possibly turning some people to turn their back on the peace process thus making Sinn Fein irrelevent in the influence of the decision making of the IRA.

If they had turned their back on those involved then they wouldn't have risked alienating the rest of us. Their choice. Their consequence.

Dotsey wrote: »

There was much bigger issues around at the time that SF was dealing with than the death of one man and in delicate negotiations with the IRA they basically had to support all members' release in return for peace regardless of what act they committed was.

So they campaigned for people who didn't qualify. As I said, their choice, and they are judged accordingly.

Dotsey wrote: »

I personally have always accepted McGuinness and Adams' word on their alleged IRA membership. Both are two of the most skilled politicians the country has ever produced and both had the ability to see the bigger picture of the conflict and through their political skills and influence they gained and could hold over 90% of republicans they moved republican thinking away from armed fighting and into politics. I have no doubt that only for these two there would still be armed conflict on the island and this fact has to be remembered.

How so ? If it weren't for people like them there would have been no armed conflict to begin with.

caseyann

Simple answer he wasn't arrested as there is no proof.
Just people spreading Chinese whispers to have the know or get publicity.
and ofc in Ireland so obviously the norm.

Ever been a victim of Chinese whispers? Yeah i think most Irish have been and and been turned into a villain.
No proof no arrest unlike some bankers etc.. we know of all proof there but they are still free.

He said she said(oh so must be true)So fast to believe only the bad stuff.

KELTICKNIGHTT

Dotsey wrote: »

Jerry McCabe wasn't a "planned murder" Liam.

It was a planned robbery of money from An Post van. Quite what this has to do with Martin McGuinness is beyond me, Sinn Fein has consistently said it was wrong so what more do you want? The robbery wasn't sanctioned by the IRA, it was IRA men basically lining their own pockets and when it went wrong they used their membership to claim POW status etc..

Sinn Fein lobbied for the men's release as they qualified for release under the GFA regardless of what they done. If Sinn Fein turned their back on the men they risked alienating hardcore republicans and possibly turning some people to turn their back on the peace process thus making Sinn Fein irrelevent in the influence of the decision making of the IRA. There was much bigger issues around at the time that SF was dealing with than the death of one man and in delicate negotiations with the IRA they basically had to support all members' release in return for peace regardless of what act they committed was.

I personally have always accepted McGuinness and Adams' word on their alleged IRA membership. Both are two of the most skilled politicians the country has ever produced and both had the ability to see the bigger picture of the conflict and through their political skills and influence they gained and could hold over 90% of republicans they moved republican thinking away from armed fighting and into politics. I have no doubt that only for these two there would still be armed conflict on the island and this fact has to be remembered.

The reason Adams and Guinness gave up bombing and killing is they where losing support specially in states and it wasn't working for them ,so they decided to go politics route and ira are till too this day involved in criminality activies ,drugs etc........................................................

KELTICKNIGHTT

caseyann wrote: »

Simple answer he wasn't arrested as there is no proof.
Just people spreading Chinese whispers to have the know or get publicity.
and ofc in Ireland so obviously the norm.

Ever been a victim of Chinese whispers? Yeah i think most Irish have been and and been turned into a villain.
No proof no arrest unlike some bankers etc.. we know of all proof there but they are still free.

He said she said(oh so must be true)So fast to believe only the bad stuff.

It wasn't there was no proof but not enough, big difference and now there's a good Friday agreement,he's slightly off the hook unless somethings comes to light during the election.

maccored

Liam Byrne wrote: »

How so ? If it weren't for people like them there would have been no armed conflict to begin with.

I have the popcorn out and waiting for you to explain that one to me. how did the likes of mmg etc attack the civil rights marches etc? I know a fella in his 80s who was in the IRA in the north in the 50's - how did mmg etc start that ...?

caseyann

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

It wasn't there was no proof but not enough, big difference and now there's a good Friday agreement,he's slightly off the hook unless somethings comes to light during the election.

There was plenty of time before GFA .So where is all the so called proof?There is none so stop being so typical and swallowing the propaganda.

KELTICKNIGHTT

caseyann wrote: »

There was plenty of time before GFA .So where is all the so called proof?There is none so stop being so typical and swallowing the propaganda.

as i have already said was proof but not enough and some suspected was a deal done with mmg ,but who knows . there's always been said there's info out there that he public will never see on ira/adams and mmg
do i care ,not really.
I like the ignore list when you can ignore some posters :-)

maccored

its amazing how the excuse is that there was never enough proof, but yet he is still guilty of something. reeks of facism that kind of thinking. bit like the idea the ira done the northern bank robbery.

caseyann

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

as i have already said was proof but not enough and some suspected was a deal done with mmg ,but who knows . there's always been said there's info out there that he public will never see on ira/adams and mmg
do i care ,not really.
I like the ignore list when you can ignore some posters :-)

There is not one squeal of proof.The Garda commissioners didnt even keep notes on this so called dangerous high profile leader of IRA neither did the British intelligence.It is a load of rubbish.
Its out there please spin that line with someone who is going to fall for that bull**** propaganda.

caseyann

maccored wrote: »

its amazing how the excuse is that there was never enough proof, but yet he is still guilty of something. reeks of facism that kind of thinking. bit like the idea the ira done the northern bank robbery.

It is exactly that.So called proof and not a shred of it shown.Because they cant show it as there is not one bit.lol

KELTICKNIGHTT

caseyann wrote: »

There is not one squeal of proof.The Garda commissioners didnt even keep notes on this so called dangerous high profile leader of IRA neither did the British intelligence.It is a load of rubbish.
Its out there please spin that line with someone who is going to fall for that bull**** propaganda.

The only group who always have and will do spinning of propaganda is sein fein party and there support as can be seen here on boards and other media outlets.
as far as mgg goes, there's plenty of details about mgg on web and books and tv footage going back to 70's and that will always follow him where he goes
people in Ireland in state of Ireland who grow up with this day in and day out in papers and media and even people more affected on border counties will know what mmg did and what he is about,yes the younger crowded won't ,,only what the spinners in sein fein party put out.
mmg is NOT good for Ireland because of his past or even present ,people can't and won't take a chance,, and Don't trust him, people of Ireland aren't fools
people of ireland need a president that works and looks after interest of state of Ireland only,so put any twist on what I have said,,Ireland needs a president that Ireland can trust and bring Ireland forward..

Funfair

Martin McGuiness, love him or loath him, is the only Politician in the race with the caliber of a President. Whatever about his past, he’s now a Politician and one of the best around and would serve this Country very well despite people’s sensitivities.

Let's be honnest the rest in the race are a mixed bag of “nobody’s” and “has being’s” and wouldn’t get my vote to run in the local council let alone Presidential election. They are making a mockery of the office even thinking they somehow done something to deserve to be a President.

McGuiness might or might not have took lives but one thing for certain he certainly risked his own life fighting British aggression on this Island… that for me is the kind of person that should hold the office of President of Ireland.

Sunnyisland

maccored wrote: »

I have the popcorn out and waiting for you to explain that one to me. how did the likes of mmg etc attack the civil rights marches etc? I know a fella in his 80s who was in the IRA in the north in the 50's - how did mmg etc start that ...?

I know one to, Proinsias De Rossa(td,mep) is a convicted IRA man and also was interned in the curragh in the fifties,as was his old mate Tomas mac giolla.(rip)
Didn't see much being said about them and there pasts when they were going for election ,maybe that's why MDH & labour are keeping quite about MMg ? glass houses and all that.

Liam Byrne

maccored wrote: »

I have the popcorn out and waiting for you to explain that one to me. how did the likes of mmg etc attack the civil rights marches etc? I know a fella in his 80s who was in the IRA in the north in the 50's - how did mmg etc start that ...?

Don't choke on the popcorn, because I specifically said the likes of not MMG himself, which covers that "fella in his 80s" more than adequately.

Nice try, but I think the operative internet lingo is "fail".

Liam Byrne

maccored wrote: »

its amazing how the excuse is that there was never enough proof, but yet he is still guilty of something. reeks of facism that kind of thinking. bit like the idea the ira done the northern bank robbery.

The same as McGuinness & his buddies and their punishment beatings & kneecappings and murdering people for being informers, then ?

Reeks of facism alright.

KeithAFC

Funfair wrote: »

Martin McGuiness, love him or loath him, is the only Politician in the race with the caliber of a President. Whatever about his past, he’s now a Politician and one of the best around and would serve this Country very well despite people’s sensitivities.

Let's be honnest the rest in the race are a mixed bag of “nobody’s” and “has being’s” and wouldn’t get my vote to run in the local council let alone Presidential election. They are making a mockery of the office even thinking they somehow done something to deserve to be a President.

McGuiness might or might not have took lives but one thing for certain he certainly risked his own life fighting British aggression on this Island… that for me is the kind of person that should hold the office of President of Ireland.

So ONLY Mcguinness is good enough to open shops? Only Mcguinness is good enough to meet other presidents of other countries? Only Mcguinness is good enough to be president?

That is a very bizarre way to look at it. I would think Seán Gallagher or Higgins from what I have seen would be more than good enough to do that. People fought Republican aggression too. Wasn't a one way street.

KELTICKNIGHTT

Liam Byrne wrote: »

The same as McGuinness & his buddies and their punishment beatings & kneecappings and murdering people for being informers, then ?

Reeks of facism alright.

had to laugh when facism was used but it suits sf party better as its there style

Funfair

KeithAFC wrote: »

People fought Republican aggression too. Wasn't a one way street.

True and if David Ervine was still alive and went for President I'd give him a vote as he's also a man who put his life on the line for his beliefs and would have deserved a title like President.

The others are just not worthy or done anything of note (without being well paid) to hold the honor.

blahfckingblah

seriously if there was any proof at all I have no doubt that it would have came out, when you sit back and look at all the dirt being dug up in the run up to this election its hard to see how this evidence hasn't came to light

Sunnyisland

Funfair wrote: »

True and if David Ervine was still alive and went for President I'd give him a vote as he's also a man who put his life on the line for his beliefs and would have deserved a title like President.

The others are just not worthy or done anything of note (without being well paid) to hold the honor.

Yes liked what I knew about David Ervine myself another man that looked to the future.

Funfair

blahfckingblah wrote: »

seriously if there was any proof at all I have no doubt that it would have came out, when you sit back and look at all the dirt being dug up in the run up to this election its hard to see how this evidence hasn't came to light

Early days.. the last week of the election the shyte will hit the fan for all them, or for all bar who the media want in the office..

MMG will be hit big time with dirt in the last few days in order for him not to get time to recover I'm guessing

audi a4 2008

How so ? If it weren't for people like them there would have been no armed conflict to begin with.[/QUOTE]



that is some statement,u have just shown me that not only are u clueless about martin mc guinness u havent a clue about what the troubles are about.
and im glad we hadent u around in 1916.im full sure of the coat u would wear.

im all up for debate but please people learn something about our land before u make silly comments

crebel81

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

The only group who always have and will do spinning of propaganda is sein fein party and there support as can be seen here on boards and other media outlets.
as far as mgg goes, there's plenty of details about mgg on web and books and tv footage going back to 70's and that will always follow him where he goes
people in Ireland in state of Ireland who grow up with this day in and day out in papers and media and even people more affected on border counties will know what mmg did and what he is about,yes the younger crowded won't ,,only what the spinners in sein fein party put out.
mmg is NOT good for Ireland because of his past or even present ,people can't and won't take a chance,, and Don't trust him, people of Ireland aren't fools
people of ireland need a president that works and looks after interest of state of Ireland only,so put any twist on what I have said,,Ireland needs a president that Ireland can trust and bring Ireland forward..

Keltic keltic keltic......I recall u doing alot of sf bashing at the time of the general election and stating that sf would not do well...must have been a shock......

and here we are again, more and more sf bashing...

The highlighted words are classic tbh...but what gets me most is you saying that people of Ireland are not fools......well prove me wrong but when it comes to elections the majority of the electorate would be classed as fools for letting ff and fg get into government..

can u not acknowlege the fact that sf and the dup have made great strides to get where they are today? Yes Mmg was in the IRA...so was my grandfather and his whole village lol...

Funfair

My take on all the canidates..

I used the never fail system on who I’d like to have a few pints with..

Gallagher might be interesting with all his money making scheme’s however he’ll more then likely be like an accountant mate of mine who wouldn’t buy his round and any money making schemes he’d have he certainly wouldn’t be sharing..

Davis fine looking for her age, I’d have little in common with her to talk about though

Dana is like the mother in law.. enough said..

Mitchell has no personality, kind of bloke you’d avoid in a pub..

Higgins would be hard work , talking with poetry and riddles id imagine, lives a in a dream world floating around like a guy on marijuana.. Wouldn’t say he even knows we’re in a recession

Norris is like a stand up comedian that has 5 minutes worth of jokes and then he gets irritating.. End up with a headache after 20 minutes

McGuiness would be intriguing imagine if he opened up a told of just one year in his life from the days on the run etc.. WoW ! the stories that guy would have…..

McGuiness for me hands down…

The same system could be used by World leaders; I’d say they’d be queuing up to meet McGuiness to have a late night chat about his life..

KELTICKNIGHTT

crebel81 wrote: »

Keltic keltic keltic......I recall u doing alot of sf bashing at the time of the general election and stating that sf would not do well...must have been a shock......

and here we are again, more and more sf bashing...

The highlighted words are classic tbh...but what gets me most is you saying that people of Ireland are not fools......well prove me wrong but when it comes to elections the majority of the electorate would be classed as fools for letting ff and fg get into government..

can u not acknowlege the fact that sf and the dup have made great strides to get where they are today? Yes Mmg was in the IRA...so was my grandfather and his whole village lol...

i remember the sf propaganda which is same guff used in north with sf supporters,nothing new there and be won't be any change for another 10 years i sure,,like most people dont care about mmg and co ,be nice too see hand cuffs on him but he made his deal and for now can ramble on like sf and co do ,so enjoy it

KELTICKNIGHTT

Funfair wrote: »

My take on all the canidates..

I used the never fail system on who I’d like to have a few pints with..

Gallagher might be interesting with all his money making scheme’s however he’ll more then likely be like an accountant mate of mine who wouldn’t buy his round and any money making schemes he’d have he certainly wouldn’t be sharing..

Davis fine looking for her age, I’d have little in common with her to talk about though

Dana is like the mother in law.. enough said..

Mitchell has no personality, kind of bloke you’d avoid in a pub..

Higgins would be hard work , talking with poetry and riddles id imagine, lives a in a dream world floating around like a guy on marijuana.. Wouldn’t say he even knows we’re in a recession

Norris is like a stand up comedian that has 5 minutes worth of jokes and then he gets irritating.. End up with a headache after 20 minutes

McGuiness would be intriguing imagine if he opened up a told of just one year in his life from the days on the run etc.. WoW ! the stories that guy would have…..

McGuiness for me hands down…

The same system could be used by World leaders; I’d say they’d be queuing up to meet McGuiness to have a late night chat about his life..

will you celebrate when higgins wins .

Funfair

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

will you celebrate when higgins wins .

Makes no difference to me who wins to be honest.. certainly won't be celebrating for any of em..

KELTICKNIGHTT

Funfair wrote: »

Makes no difference to me who wins to be honest.. certainly won't be celebrating for any of em..

we have 7 candidates and have too say,not great choice