Predict the iphone 4S 64GB Price!

challengemaster

Zonda999 wrote: »

There are people who will pay that much, 800€ up front does sound like an appalling amount in isolation alright. But what you need to think about though, is the overall cost of using the phone, as in the initial cost plus network costs. The pint being, on 30 day contracts, you can get much better deals, and change plans at will, as opposed to being tied in to 2 year contracts. Often the price works out very similar. and, as far as i know, in Three's most recent free iphone contract offer, it was probable that it would work out cheaper to go with the contract. For some people, the thought of a 64gb iphone will be what they've been waiting for, for years. In fairness, it is the only phone to offer that level of storage without the use of micro sd cards

But it's still a stupid price.

Gumbo

challengemaster wrote: »

Who in their right mind pays €800 for a phone. One that'll be outdated in a year. Forget the *99 stuff as it's only a marketing technique. :rolleyes:

Tazz T wrote: »

Those are mental prices.

Sure the iPhone 5 will be out in a couple of months.

just like everything else in this world, whay works for you, might not work for others.

the price for the iPhone from apple may seem high at the offset but if you factor in contract prices etc it may work out exactly the same.

sim free 32gb = 699
24 months of PAYG top up at 20e per month = 480

700 + 480 = 1380

buy for 299 from network = 299
24 months of 50e = 1200

300 + 1200 = 1500

so not alot in it tbh, plus the PAYG option means you can sell it tomorrow if your having financial problems, moving away etc etc

kingshankly

kceire wrote: »

challengemaster wrote: »

Who in their right mind pays €800 for a phone. One that'll be outdated in a year. Forget the *99 stuff as it's only a marketing technique. :rolleyes:

Tazz T wrote: »

Those are mental prices.

Sure the iPhone 5 will be out in a couple of months.

just like everything else in this world, whay works for you, might not work for others.

the price for the iPhone from apple may seem high at the offset but if you factor in contract prices etc it may work out exactly the same.

sim free 32gb = 699
24 months of PAYG top up at 20e per month = 480

700 + 480 = 1380

buy for 299 from network = 299
24 months of 50e = 1200

300 + 1200 = 1500

so not alot in it tbh, plus the PAYG option means you can sell it tomorrow if your having financial problems, moving away etc etc

well vodafone must love me as I buy the phone myself yet stay in their 60 a month contract

Gumbo

kingshankly wrote: »

well vodafone must love me as I buy the phone myself yet stay in their 60 a month contract

this is it, what works for you might not work for me. Theres no right way or wrong way, just different ways.

Simon201

Less of a prediction me thinks but the 64gb is £699 on the UK site. I hope I'm wrong but that puts it at a wild €800 here!

(edit) Confirmed - an even wilder €849 on the French store!

120_Minutes

$849 in the US, confirmed by gizmodo.

RobitTV

Quite pissed at the euro prices

16 GB
€ 629.00
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32 GB
€ 739.00
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64 GB
€ 849.00

Why are the products in this world so expensive and have unreasonable prices.

Inquitus

kceire wrote: »

have you priced sim free version of other phones recently?

http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/10250402/art/htc/sensation.html

http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/10024873/art/samsung/i9100-galaxy-s-ii-android.html

Aye but they are cutting edge phones, not something that is 18mths old.

tigershould

€849!!!!!

That's fu*kin' ridiculous isn't it?
Or am I missing something?

If you say €45 x 24 mths contract + upgrade price (probably €600/700 on a gold O2 maybe?) that's a whopping €1600ish in two years.

Just for interest, does anyone know how much it actually costs to manufacture one?

God bless you Steve, you sure knew how to make the money.

Sad Professor

We don't know the Irish prices yet. I doubt it will be 850. Not all euro prices are the same.

Oafley Jones

tigershould wrote: »

€849!!!!!

That's fu*kin' ridiculous isn't it?
Or am I missing something?

If you say €45 x 24 mths contract + upgrade price (probably €600/700 on a gold O2 maybe?) that's a whopping €1600ish in two years.

Just for interest, does anyone know how much it actually costs to manufacture one?

God bless you Steve, you sure knew how to make the money.

I saw a Bill of Materials estimate for the 32GB 4S of 203 dollars some where today. They're an incredibly profitable product for Apple.

120_Minutes

Not defending the Irish networks, but your average iPhone costs them roughly 400 from apple, so if a customer gets it free then then the network begins to earn revenue back at about month 14.

I remember reading what an iPhone cost to make, can't remember what model but it was somewhere between 150 - 250 dollars I think.

Hogzy

€850, iPhones are nice, but they are no where near worth that money even if you end up paying it back through a 2yr contract.

Without getting into the whole Apple v Android debate can you Apple Fanboys really justifying paying THAT MUCH for a phone. I mean a 16gb Galaxy S II from Amazon is €450 delivered Sim free, add €50 for a 32gb SD card and its €500 for a 48gb phone that has the exact same features as an iPhone 4s (Some features are actually better), and android has had its own google voice for nearly a year and a half.

I have an android, i also have a head. Everytime i do the maths i just cannot justify why someone would pay that much more for a phone that is not that much better than its rivals (I personally prefer android but each to their own).

Sad Professor

It should be kept in mind though that hardware manufacturing costs are not the whole picture. Those figures don't take into account other costs like marketing, R&D, support, shipping and software development. But the iPhone is undoubtedly very profitable. All their products are very profitable. If they can't make a profit from it they don't make it.

Hogzy

Sad Professor wrote: »

If they can't make a profit from it they don't make it.

I think you will find that most companies will do this

Sad Professor

Not necessarily. A lot of companies sacrifice short term profitability in their attempts to dominate a market. I mean, have Sony started making a profit on the ps3 yet? The last I heard they were still selling it at a loss. Apple don't do this.

Hogzy

Sad Professor wrote: »

Not necessarily. A lot of companies sacrifice short term profitability in their attempts to dominate a market. I mean, have Sony started making a profit on the ps3 yet? The last I heard they were still selling it at a loss. Apple don't do this.

The PS3 turned a profit for Sony in Q2 2010. Yes late i know but once the break even point has been reached then your profit will soar. If a company is selling a product at a loss i can guarantee you it will be making some sort of profit for the company indirectly.

Sad Professor

Yeah but my point is Apple don't do this. When Jobs returned he focused the company on achieving short term profit. This allowed them to spend more money improving those products and staying ahead of their competitors - not in terms of sales but in terms of innovation. But this eventually resulted in greater sales. This was key to Apple's success in the post-return years IMO.

LuckyCharms

Following on from what was said above, i think it isnt something that can be compared like for like since Apple operate in a specific area regarding their phones while

Sony has so many different revenue streams interconnected that one making a loss is often done to allow for others to generate substantial revenue.

Apple do not have that kind of diversified portfolio to leverage. PS3 is more like the apple store than the iphone. Apple uses it's various products to leverage its consolidated music and app library but since itunes can be used by anyone, having an iphone is not a pre requisite to gain access to these revenue streams.

speeding

64gb Iphone 4s ordered this morning shipping to a friends house in the north. Just got my confirmation email :-).

Run_to_da_hills

Why can't someone come up with a 64gb micro SD sim combo.

ShaneU

Hogzy wrote: »

I mean a 16gb Galaxy S II from Amazon is €450 delivered Sim free,

It's actually €480 (you can't order phones from third parties) mine arrives on Monday :cool:

Woofstuff

I would say apple are making plenty of money on their products...€50billion on their cash reserves...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470

I have an orange san francisco.. cost me 90 euro.. i get most of the same apps that the iphone can get (i said most, yes i know iphones have more apps) But the ones most people use are on android as well....half decent camera... got a 32gb memory card for 40euro or so...

Does the job.. maybe not as fast as the iphone but better value i reckon!

But if i had the money i would defo consider the iphone 4s, looks good, pocket friendly and the battery life sounds promising

LuckyCharms

They have more money on hand than the US Government which i think says alot for the way governments are run these days

. The phone is quite pricey without a doubt but when you consider the prices of similar type phones , its not as extravagant as you may think. When i upgraded to 4 last year sim fee, i spent about 300ish on it since i got over 300 for my 3GS so its not as expensive as you may think if your upgrading from one make to another.

Alot of people who would upgrade to an iphone do not really need an iphone, they want one. Thats where alot of the negative stuff about apple appears. People complain how expensive it is without fully realizing whats available to them on this little phone.

Personally , im not sure if ill bother upgrading. The only thing that is tempting about it is that im due a contract renewal and if the price is favorable, i can sell my current iphone 4 and probably upgrade for about the same price.

ashleey

Imagine how much it would cost if Foxconn had to pay enough such that their employees didn't feel the need to jump out of windows?

Hogzy

LuckyCharms wrote: »

Alot of people who would upgrade to an iphone do not really need an iphone, they want one. Thats where alot of the negative stuff about apple appears. People complain how expensive it is without fully realizing whats available to them on this little phone.

I think people realise what is available on the phone. And its not worth the money IMO. I personally would never spend more than €250 on my phone (Subsidised Bill pay).

Firstly because phones are something you carry around everyday and are susceptible to dropping and breaking.

Secondly because a phone will be obsolete within 12-18 months. The hardware in the iPhone 4s will be obsolete within the next month or two when the New Nexus phone is released. It was meant to be announced yesterday but was postponed (Probably because of Steve Jobs Passing)

LuckyCharms

Hogzy wrote: »

I think people realise what is available on the phone. And its not worth the money IMO. I personally would never spend more than €250 on my phone (Subsidised Bill pay).

Firstly because phones are something you carry around everyday and are susceptible to dropping and breaking.

Secondly because a phone will be obsolete within 12-18 months. The hardware in the iPhone 4s will be obsolete within the next month or two when the New Nexus phone is released. It was meant to be announced yesterday but was postponed (Probably because of Steve Jobs Passing)

You'd be surprised, some of my friends have iphones and Samsung Galaxy phones and they only know half of the stuff that they phone can do because they simply don't use it or buy it for those features.

The android platform caters more for those people because they have alot of different phones for different people. The iphone does not do this. They have something for everyone in the phone but you can't pick and match, you take the whole package.

I have dropped my phone on all manner of things and there isnt a scratch on it while my brother dropped a different phone once and the screen split in half. Build quality in todays phones allow for a certain amount of rough treatment.

I agree on the obsolete part but that is true about everything. Although the phone does become obsolete, it still retains a sell on value. I sold my 3GS for over 300 when i bought my new phone.

The whole tech industry becomes obsolete every year as new advancements are made so making judgements on that is pointless because you will never invest in anything since the next version is just around the corner.I haven't seen the specs on the new nexus but what will make the new iphone obsolete exactly?

Does Nexus have something comparable to Siri?

Just to add, the release was postponed due to the death of SJ which i found very refreshing in this day and age , a great show of respect for a man by companies who are rivals in the same industry

ashleey

I'm looking forward to being on the tube in London and listening to loads of twits shouting into their iPhones 'book me a table at Quaglinos'.

Hogzy

LuckyCharms wrote: »

Just to add, the release was postponed due to the death of SJ which i found very refreshing in this day and age , a great show of respect for a man by companies who are rivals in the same industry

lol trust me its nothing to do with mourning his loss. It has been postponed because all the tech sites and blogs were being consumed by the death of Steve Jobs. If the Nexus was launched yesterday it would be HUGELY overshadowed by Job's death. Therefore the money samsung would have invested in its launch would all have been wasted. Its all about publicity. Think about it.

LuckyCharms wrote: »

Does Nexus have something comparable to Siri?

Just to add, the release was postponed due to the death of SJ which i found very refreshing in this day and age , a great show of respect for a man by companies who are rivals in the same industry

Android has had Google Voice for the last year (and a half?) Definitely over a year anyway. Its fantastic, especially for sending texts while driving. So Apple's Siri is definetly late on the scene but for some reason i would say it will work better than Google Voice. Google Voice is optimised for US and UK accents so it has the odd error or two if you have a strong Irish accent. Long words sometimes have to be pronounced with a little american accent to get right. I have no doubt it will be the same with Siri on iPhone though. I guarantee it wont work as well with Irish accents as it will with UK and US accents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGbYVvU0Z5s

Eire Go Brach

Tazz T wrote: »

Those are mental prices.

Sure the iPhone 5 will be out in a couple of months.

There will be no iPhone 5. Apple will not call there 6th generation phone a 5.