Advise on barrel length

Tackleberrywho

dev110 wrote: »

At what distance 25 yards???:rolleyes:

You obviously have an issue with all my posts so there is no point in myself engaging with you.

I do not want to get another infraction for replying off topic, I also do not want to derail a decent thread with good pointers.

EOM.

dev110

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

You obviously have an issue with all my posts so there is no point in myself engaging with you.

I do not want to get another infraction for replying off topic, I also do not want to derail a decent thread with good pointers.

EOM.

Maybe I do and maybe I don't.
No body here would like to see you get another infraction and maybe banned :rolleyes:

poulo6.5

clivej wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTrWAr4hLBA

Great vid now included

i love that scout rifle where do i get one:D:D:D:D:D

virminhunter

poulo6.5 wrote: »

i love that scout rifle where do i get one:D:D:D:D:D

their not cheap, the concept of them appeals to me though, if you could get a gunsmith to put a forward rail on the rifle and shorten down the barrel you'd be there:)

http://www.scoutrifle.org/index.php?topic=971.0
http://www.scoutrifle.org/index.php?topic=1298.0

Sparks

virminhunter wrote: »

their not cheap, the concept of them appeals to me though, if you could get a gunsmith to put a forward rail on the rifle and shorten down the barrel you'd be there:)

Think there was slightly more intended in the scout rifle design than that
The steyr scout is the only one I've ever held personally - a lovely rifle, really well balanced and a nice clever stock design. Only fired it the once though, in .270, and managed to give myself a right dose of scope eye in the process (the owner had opted for a normal scope instead of the forward scope the original design had in mind).

virminhunter

Sparks wrote: »

Think there was slightly more intended in the scout rifle design than that
The steyr scout is the only one I've ever held personally - a lovely rifle, really well balanced and a nice clever stock design. Only fired it the once though, in .270, and managed to give myself a right dose of scope eye in the process (the owner had opted for a normal scope instead of the forward scope the original design had in mind).

ah yeah, but if you did your homework picked the right rifle, caliber and optics got some work done on it, once you stay within the outlined perameters, it'd be a scout rifle like. Would you agree?

tac foley

Sparks wrote: »

Think there was slightly more intended in the scout rifle design than that
The steyr scout is the only one I've ever held personally - a lovely rifle, really well balanced and a nice clever stock design. Only fired it the once though, in .270, and managed to give myself a right dose of scope eye in the process (the owner had opted for a normal scope instead of the forward scope the original design had in mind).

Now THAT was what I was going to post! You must have read my mind. The Steyr Scout has been out a good few years now, and is a proven winner in the accuracy stakes. I've only fired one in .308Win, and that was a mite loud and kicky as it's quite light, but five consecutive shots of the Federal 168gr stuff went into about an inch at a 100m, even with the rather odd-looking x10 LER scope. Lots of good planning went into this gun, mostly, I'm told, by the late and greatly missed Jeff Cooper, whose initial concept it was.

If the somewhat ding-dong debate could be settled about what is legal in the RoI regarding barrel length, then it would make an ideal on-the-hill gun in any of the available calibres - at less than a third of the cost of the RPA item.

There are two in my local dealers - both in .308Win, and both PX'd for the so-called 'Covert' version of my pal Ewan Campbell's DTA SRS bull-pup rifle.

tac

Sparks

tac foley wrote: »

If the somewhat ding-dong debate could be settled about what is legal in the RoI regarding barrel length, then it would make an ideal on-the-hill gun in any of the available calibres - at less than a third of the cost of the RPA item.

The law shouldn't even be a problem with the Steyr - barrel length is quoted as being 50.8cm (I didn't have a tape measure with me when I shot it, but that sounds about right). So no issues over barrel length.

And it is a lovely bit of engineering, though some might not like the polymer stock, the luddites

poulo6.5

i have the steyr scout elite in .308 with a conventional scope on it and i love it. great rifle to shoot and easily handled, being the elite it has a heave barrel but the standard steyr is a lovely lite rifle and the shoot as good as my heavy one. also designed by cooper,

a great all rounder i think

willcork

Hi all,
I have a remington 700 sps tactical in .223 its got a 1 in 9 twist just like the OP but it has a 20" barrel.
I have an ase utra jet z cqb moderator fitted and find it balances nicely.
I only use Hornady 75gr match and manage sub moa groups, so my recomendation would be to do it if you want to you'll still have an excellent rifle, I would be inclined to wait and see about changing the mod though, you might find it balances well with the one you have once the barrel is cut.

Comeraghshooter

So i finally went ahead with the barrel chop and got it cut down to 20" from 26".
This made a big difference to the balance of the rifle and makes it much easier to carry when hunting, i also sold my ASE moderator and replaced it with a A-TEC CMM-4 which also made a big difference on weight as it weighs only a little over 200 grams as opposed to over 500g from the ASE.

So far im happy but Ive only given it a quick zero at 100m and yet to see the results at 200 & 300.

Some pics below, the fox target was set up at 110m and shot in a prone position with bi-pod.

20" Barrel


20" barrel with Mod


3 shots @110m

deeksofdoom

Looks sweet cs, all you need now is to convert it to AICs magazine and then it will look realy sweet.

And a big f... off black tactical bolt knob to put your weener to shame!:eek:

poulo6.5

thats great well wear.

i had a tikka with a 20" barrel. makes for a very easy to handle rifle. have you tried it out at longer range, it would be interesting to see what differance it made at 200, 300 and 400 etc.

i have no doubt that it will be every bit as accurate

Comeraghshooter

poulo6.5 wrote: »

thats great well wear.

i had a tikka with a 20" barrel. makes for a very easy to handle rifle. have you tried it out at longer range, it would be interesting to see what differance it made at 200, 300 and 400 etc.

i have no doubt that it will be every bit as accurate

Thanks Poulo

No ive only had it out around the 100m mark for about a half hour just to zero it. Im anxious to see what its like at 200 & 300m to see if there is much of a difference.

CS

Tackleberrywho

I have my own hunting rifle cut to 21"
And it handles like a dream, even with an Ase.

vixdname

Lovely looking rig Comeraghshooter, you wont be disappointed I'll bet.
Below is a pic of my Tikka T3 Lite Stainless in .270.
It has a 20 inch barrel, a 10:1 twist and an A-Tec moderator on the end.
Some lads said that the lite would kick like a mule in .270 but it doesn't, not a bit. Its way more accurate then my last rifle which was a Remmy 700 SPS heavy barrel in .223.

The 20 inch barrel with the mod on is still relatively short and its damn easier to carry around then at Remmy every was.

I've also shot this rifle at targets ranging from 100yrds to 700 yrds and using Srelok to give me the corrcet dial in on my NF scope, it hasnt missed any targets yet.

virminhunter

@ vixname, take that mod off and you'll know all about kicks, I did with my .25-06, it was fun just to see but never again:)