Most evil person ever?

mikemac

Wouldn't agree with that Coolhat

Ted Bundy was a very handsome lad and had a fair bit of charm to put girls at ease and trick them
He was interviewed and released by police but you think you could figure him out in a few seconds

And Charles Manson managed to get lots of followers, they are few enough who could manage that

You'd be the worlds greatest policeman if you could identify serial killers in seconds

As for the first two, well Stalin was a pretty good looking guy back in Georgia and seemed to have been a bit of a womanizer and a bank robber. Normal bloke? Maybe

CoolHat

mikemac wrote: »

You'd be the worlds greatest policeman if you could identify serial killers in seconds

But within saying that you are agreeing that you just dont know who is evil then.

So the question comes up, how do you know one is evil? Were guys like Hitler and Stalin so few and far between? ... or just guys who rose to power.

DEFTLEFTHAND

John Gotti.

oranbhoy67

any Rangers FC supporter

KeithAFC

Abraham Lincoln, Stalin, Amon Göth.

dfx-

Hitler probably wouldn't be in the top three evil Nazis, certainly behind Mengele and Himmler, Muller and Goebbels and the lads in the SS/Gestapo. Not near the most evil ever.

Recently, I'd have to agree, the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs. Disgusting video..

suicide_circus

Andrei Chikatilo.
The wiki article is worth a read for those of you who enjoy the darker side of human nature.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Chikatilo

Mickey H

CoolHat wrote: »

Hitler would generally be the name people most say.

Scary thing is, there is probably dozens of people that trump Hitler in the evil department. Just not as notorious.

True, Hitler didn't personally murder X million people. The likes of Himmler, Mengele, Amon Göth et al. would be far worse as it was these who did the killings. In fact Mengele was probably the worst of them considering some of what he got away with and the fact that he was never tried for it.

My_left_leg wrote: »

The Goth weather gurl on RTE.

Pure evil she is.

Who is she?

flyswatter wrote: »

No mention yet of Shiro Ishii, a Japanese lietenant responsible for war crimes/ human experimentation. An evil man indeed, just google Unit 731. Pretty sickening.

Up there with Mengele. Basically a Japanese version. Hard to know who was worse.

Napper Hawkins

Who ever is more eviller den Skeletor, innit?

Eve_Dublin

Have a particular hatred for Agusto Pinochet. Wanker extraordinaire. Was in Chile and spoke to a guy who saw his neighbours getting murdered right in front of his eyes when he was only a kid. The incomprehendable thing is, 50% of the population think he was great.

People are fecking weird.

I also despise Franco...this country had to sign of a pact of forgetting and both parties agreed to an amnesty of not mentioning what happened throughout his dictatorship. The tension is still palpable today. Luckily the skeletons are being dragged from the closet finally and people are talking a bit more openly about it than before . There's an underlying "put up and shut up teeth tongue-biting" feeling in this country and you can sense it everyday in their politics. People of a certain generation from both sides are still raging over it. Nothing will move on until it's discussed and those responsible blamed. 50,000 people at least were tortured and murdered under his dictatorship. He still has a lot of support in this city (Madrid) and that gives me the serious heebie jeebies. I hate it.

Sandwlch

You cannot label people as 'evil' anymore. We (hopefully) live in a more enlightened time.

You must refer to them as 'differently moralled' and respect everyone's individuality.

Surprised this thread hasnt been locked already with such abusive language being used so freely about people unable to defend themselves.

Napper Hawkins

Sandwlch wrote: »

You cannot label people as 'evil' anymore. We (hopefully) live in a more enlightened time.

You must refer to them as 'differently moralled' and respect everyone's individuality.

Surprised this thread hasnt been locked already with such abusive language being used so freely about people unable to defend themselves.

lol

iPlop

The fellas that murdered those two mexican guys with a chainsaw two weeks ago, they have to be the most evil bastards ever. I will not post links, the video is on the net, google if you dare. I didn't sleep right after seeing it, the whole "Why, why, why are humans so evil" kept going around in my head.

Capt'n Midnight

Yahew wrote: »

I dont trust a word Pilger says, and that was the article I was previously referring to. It proves very little, like most Pilger articles ( bombing cambodia may have helped Pol Pot, but bombing doesn't normally lead to Pol Potism. if it always did then the Nazi attack on london would led to a British Pol Pot). [//QUOTE]The old roman punishment of decimation [ the killing or ONE in TEN ] was to ensure that everyone in the unit lost someone close to them so as to dehumanise them.

Similar effects have been seen in wars since. Units can stand a per mission attrition rate of up to 3 or 5% (I can't remember which) and larger attrition rates over many rates. Any more and there is a tipping point beyond which normal morals break down and atrocities become more common.

http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2006.10-history-bombing-cambodia/

The still-incomplete database (it has several “dark” periods) reveals that from October 4, 1965, to August 15, 1973, the United States dropped far more ordnance on Cambodia than was previously believed: 2,756,941 tons’ worth

To put this in perspective in WWII the total tonnage dropped worldwide would have been a little under 4 million tonnes. Most of the bombs dropped in Cambodia were in the south east of the country were the KR operated.

As for the bombing of London. 40,000 died between Spetember 1940 and May 1941. This is less that the number of RAF Bomber Command that died during the war or the number that died in Hamburg in a few days at the end of July 1943
http://www.svenlindqvist.net/main.asp?cat=2&lang=2&id=88

THE SPLENDID DECISION

On the tenth of May in 1940, Churchill became Prime Minister of England. On the eleventh of May, he gave the order to bomb Germany.

"It was a splendid decision," writes J. M. Spaight, expert on international law and Secretary of the British Air Ministry. Thanks to that decision, the English to-day can walk with their heads held high. When Churchill began to bomb Germany, he knew that the Germans did not want a bombing war. Their airforce, unlike the British, was not made for heavy bombs . Churchill went on bombing, even though he knew that reprisals were unavoidable. He consciously sacrificed London and other English cities for the sake of freedom and civilization. "It was a splendid decision."

Yahew

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Have a particular hatred for Agusto Pinochet. Wanker extraordinaire. Was in Chile and spoke to a guy who saw his neighbours getting murdered right in front of his eyes when he was only a kid. The incomprehendable thing is, 50% of the population think he was great.

People are fecking weird.

I also despise Franco...this country had to sign of a pact of forgetting and both parties agreed to an amnesty of not mentioning what happened throughout his dictatorship. The tension is still palpable today. Luckily the skeletons are being dragged from the closet finally and people are talking a bit more openly about it than before . There's an underlying "put up and shut up teeth tongue-biting" feeling in this country and you can sense it everyday in their politics. People of a certain generation from both sides are still raging over it. Nothing will move on until it's discussed and those responsible blamed. 50,000 people at least were tortured and murdered under his dictatorship. He still has a lot of support in this city (Madrid) and that gives me the serious heebie jeebies. I hate it.

The alternative to Spanish fascism was not democracy but communism, and it would have been a particularly vicious communism too.

Lady Chuckles

Two-Face, The Scarecrow and Catwoman.

maiden

The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs, as someone said here earlier for 'that snuff video'

I couldnt sleep for nights after seeing that!! And im so sorry I EVER watched it!!

Also on my list Charlie Manson, even though he wasnt 'hands on', i reckon a very evil man to this day!

St.Spodo

Hundreds of candidates. Wouldn't necessarily say those Ukrainian lads were less evil than say Hitler/Himmler/Mengele, for example, they just hadn't got the means to be as prolific.

4leto

Yahew wrote: »

The alternative to Spanish fascism was not democracy but communism, and it would have been a particularly vicious communism too.

The same for Agusto Pinochet, but the CIA did a job on Allende it was a strange time in global politics. But appart from Cuba and some central American states America did succeed in keeping the red menace out of South America.

daithi1970

Heinrich Himmler. I mean how does somebody start out as a pig farmer, and end up being the chief architect of a genocide?

d

Sir Gallagher

Sandwlch wrote: »

You cannot label people as 'evil' anymore. We (hopefully) live in a more enlightened time.

You must refer to them as 'differently moralled' and respect everyone's individuality.

Surprised this thread hasnt been locked already with such abusive language being used so freely about people unable to defend themselves.

Maybe the poor dears had bad childhoods. We should really just give them one great big hug.

4leto

daithi1970 wrote: »

Heinrich Himmler. I mean how does somebody start out as a pig farmer, and end up being the chief architect of a genocide?

d

Right place at the right time.

If the NAZIs teach us anything one must be how a mere pig farmer can have a capacity for evil. We all have.

I was watching something about collaborators, when the NAZIs invaded Russia they recruited a police force from the locals. Just ordinary people. These and not the SS or Wermach murdered millions of Jews. They weren't even coaxed they just did it to steal their property.

Man Woman and child, they shot them all in firing squads.

Duggy747

Since all the usual characters have been mentioned:

Albert Fish

• A complete sick bastard who was a child rapist and cannibal. He sent one of his victim's mother a letter detailing how he killed and ate their child.

Andrei Chikatilo

• Otherwise known as the Butcher of Rostov. Derranged monster who got only get sexually aroused as he killed 56 women and children. Reading his biography is exhausting at how relentless he was in murdering others.

Capt'n Midnight

Chuck Stone wrote: »

What about Henry Kissinger?

Must get that book Hitchens wrote about him.

Roughly 10 million killed since the end of WWII in wars the US military participated in.

Capt'n Midnight

Full.Duck wrote: »

The guy who invented MP3's, ruined the music industry.

The compact cassette did it. MP3 just made it more efficient.

Cassette tapes were easy to copy and untraceable. Khomeini used them for his speeches. You could argue that the Iranian revolution couldn't have happened without them.

Nodin

4leto wrote: »

The same for Agusto Pinochet, but the CIA did a job on Allende it was a strange time in global politics. But appart from Cuba and some central American states America did succeed in keeping the red menace out of South America.

....by the joyous methods of proxy death squads, rape squads, keeping those evil priests, nuns, journos, natives, social reformers and the occassional communist in line. Thus Latin America was saved from the vile clutches of social reform.

SandraManson

Chuck Stone wrote: »

SandraManson wrote: »

"God" for inventing humans.

Humans for inventing 'God'.

Hahah, that's very true.

Batsy

John Doe1 wrote: »

A few off the top of my head:

Those two ukrainian lads in THAT snuff video

Oliver Cromwell

Margaret Thatcher

Oliver Cromwell and Margaret Thatcher?

You must be mad to rate those two as more evil that the likes of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.

In fact, both Cromwell and Thatcher were two of the greatest politicians Britain has ever had.

Mike 1972

4leto wrote: »

The same for Agusto Pinochet, but the CIA did a job on Allende it was a strange time in global politics. But appart from Cuba and some central American states America did succeed in keeping the red menace out of South America.

Wasnt this the same logic which drive German (and other) industrialists to bankroll Hitler ?

Full.Duck wrote: »

The guy who invented MP3's, ruined the music industry.

FYP !

Show Time

Ned Flanders.

tsoparno

4leto wrote: »

Margaret Thatcher wasn't evil, one hell of a leader who saved Britain from ruin.

tell that to the coal miners.:)

tsoparno

Batsy wrote: »

In fact, both Cromwell and Thatcher were two of the greatest politicians Britain has ever had.

The Irish will always struggle with a statement like that.:)

Fishooks12

Larry Murphy is a fairly stupid choice, he is after all one of thousands of rapists in Ireland!

Just more infamous given that he was released early

Alibaba

Osama Bin Laden RIP Good Riddance...

tsoparno

George W Bush

Teclo

Some more

Genghis Khan
Mao Tse-tung
Adolf Eichmann
Reinhard Heydrich
Leon Trotsky
Karl Marx
Sir Arthur Harris

Yahew

Batsy wrote: »

Oliver Cromwell and Margaret Thatcher?

You must be mad to rate those two as more evil that the likes of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.

In fact, both Cromwell and Thatcher were two of the greatest politicians Britain has ever had.

Hitler was "good" for Germany not anybody else, until he lost. This is an Irish forum, we have different views on Cromwell.

silvervixen84

Mama Fratelli

andyjo

Brendan Smyth

cgpg5

Ian Brady off the top of my head, and of course Hitler and the likes, and Father Fintan Stack who was "way worse than Hitler"

HavingCrack

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

I highlighted war.Read up on how the russian commanders treated their soldiers.The only reason the russians lost so many(millions!)in the war was because the people in charge were callous bastards.Give out about the nazi's all you want,but if you keep sending unarmed men against a wehrmacht machine gun nest,the germans will keep mowing them down.

have a quick look at the soviet casualitys in finland for an example


It set the the stage for the bastard$ that ran the USSR and other communist states in europe

Ah, but that wasn't my point exactly. If the German's had not launched Barbarossa the war between the two states would not have occured and all those soldiers would not have been killed. Now granted, the Soviet Union did an excellent job of murdering its own citizens and I suspect a war between the USSR and Nazi Germany was inevitable at some stage due to the political differences.

Yahew wrote: »

The alternative to Spanish fascism was not democracy but communism, and it would have been a particularly vicious communism too.

That's a highly simplistic view of the Spanish Civil War and one that is simply incorrect. Spain was a functioning (albeit very poorly) democracy before the Nationalist uprising. Democracy could work in Spain and was shown to do so. Furthermore Communist inflitration of the Republican movement didn't really begin until late 1937, prior to this date they were far, far lower in numbers than the Socialists, Liberal Republicans and Anarchists. In fact Juan Negrin claimed that if the Western Powers removed the arms embargo that he could liminate the Communist presence overnight.

Western appeasement was the reason Communism gained a foothold in Spain.

In fact the biggest losers of the Spanish Civil War were the Anarchists, as one of their members said 'if either the Communists or Fasicsts won the result would have been the same for us'.

4leto wrote: »

The same for Agusto Pinochet, but the CIA did a job on Allende it was a strange time in global politics. But appart from Cuba and some central American states America did succeed in keeping the red menace out of South America.

Ah yes, all those murders and dissaperances were for the good for the people. I'm fairly sure socialist governments were a better option than all those brutal right-wing dictatorships for the general population.

Eric Cartman

Everyone in israel

The_Kew_Tour

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Everyone in isreal

Ouch!!

Celly Smunt

Teclo wrote: »

Some more

Genghis Khan
Mao Tse-tung
Adolf Eichmann
Reinhard Heydrich
Leon Trotsky
Karl Marx
Sir Arthur Harris

for writing a book?

HavingCrack

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Everyone in israel

Yeah right, every single person in Israel is evil.

Cill Dara Abu

Daniel O' Donnell, evil is too nice a word for him.

Eric Cartman

pmcmahon wrote: »

for writing a book?

for fcuking up so many peoples lives with socialism and brainwashing the youth of the world into thinking that one of the worst economic systems ever could work

Eric Cartman

HavingCrack wrote: »

Yeah right, every single person in Israel is evil.

yeah your right , its really just the government, the army , the majority of people who support the government and the army, the majority of people who hate muslims and anyone who still thinks the holocaust justifys what they're doing , so probably only about 80-90% of israeli's then

fontanalis

Teclo wrote: »

Some more

Genghis Khan
Mao Tse-tung
Adolf Eichmann
Reinhard Heydrich
Leon Trotsky
Karl Marx
Sir Arthur Harris

I'm not saying he wasn't a plunderer but was he worse than many of the Romans or other European Imperialists at the time?

KeithAFC

Mother teresa, Ernst Boepple.