Most evil person ever?

fontanalis

Eric Cartman wrote: »

yeah your right , its really just the government, the army , the majority of people who support the government and the army, the majority of people who hate muslims and anyone who still thinks the holocaust justifys what they're doing , so probably only about 80-90% of israeli's then

Didn't thousands of Israelis march in protest to the Sabra Chatilla massacres?

Celly Smunt

Eric Cartman wrote: »

for fcuking up so many peoples lives with socialism and brainwashing the youth of the world into thinking that one of the worst economic systems ever could work

wrong,the communist manifesto was twisted and turned by individuals in power,Communism itself is reputable in the right hands in the right country.

still couldn't bring myself to agree with it though.

fontanalis

pmcmahon wrote: »

wrong,the communist manifesto was twisted and turned by individuals in power,Communism itself is reputable in the right hands in the right country.

still couldn't bring myself to agree with it though.

But people want to own sh!t and it will never last long term and people will reject it democratically, so the only way for it to be a permanent fixture is to have a totalitarian regime.

Celly Smunt

fontanalis wrote: »

But people want to own sh!t and it will never last long term and people will reject it democratically, so the only way for it to be a permanent fixture is to have a totalitarian regime.

hence the statement "right country"

fontanalis

pmcmahon wrote: »

hence the statement "right country"

I think the correct term is "country that doesn't exist"; extreme ideologies will never work anywhere.

Celly Smunt

fontanalis wrote: »

I think the correct term is "country that doesn't exist"; extreme ideologies will never work anywhere.

name one tolerant ideology

fontanalis

pmcmahon wrote: »

name one tolerant ideology

My point exactly; no extreme ideology of any kind will ever work.

Yahew

pmcmahon wrote: »

wrong,the communist manifesto was twisted and turned by individuals in power,Communism itself is reputable in the right hands in the right country.

still couldn't bring myself to agree with it though.

There is no way a Marxist system cannot be totalitarian. Nor can it happen without massive bloodshed. If you want to hand over your property to the State, feel free. Most people would fight to hold on to it.

Wolfe Tone

Thatcher, Hitler and his henchmen, Stalin + the usual dictator suspects, Pol Pot for example.

Fritzl too.

There are so many it is rather depressing.

HavingCrack

Eric Cartman wrote: »

yeah your right , its really just the government, the army , the majority of people who support the government and the army, the majority of people who hate muslims and anyone who still thinks the holocaust justifys what they're doing , so probably only about 80-90% of israeli's then

Out of itnerest are all those Arabs who have butchered Israeli children evil also????? Don't try and avoid this quetion by the way by claiming Israel has killed more.

So all those people are more evil than Stalin, Mao, Hitler, etc.???

For a start 20-30% of Israeli's are Arabs with another 30-40% or so who probably are pro-peace.

Under your criteria every American, British, Australian, Japanese, German, French, Irish etc. etc. etc. person is evil due to their states actions. Collective responsibility is an absurd concept and

Mr.Success

The woman in hostel 2 with the scythe. Cant see anything more evil than that

KeithAFC

Ruhollah Khomeini.

Dudess

Meh, Eric Cartman is anti-semitic, so that's probably his main reason for saying virtually every Israeli is evil (which he knows isn't true).

Teclo

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Agathocles of Syracuse
Herod the Great
Murad IV Ghazi
Abdul Hamid II
Saddam Hussein
Uday Hussein

fontanalis

God racked up a body count didn't he?

Brendog

Unit 731


Google it.

ItsAWindUp

Colonel Sanders

AudreyHepburn

Any person who hurts a child in any way.

Elmer Blooker

Brendog wrote: »

Unit 731


Google it.

I did. This Ishii character was so evil he received immunity from war crimes "in exchange for germ warfare data based on human experimentation" Hardly surprising I suppose considering the good ol' US of A put all the Nazi judges back into position when the German Federal Republic was established after WW 2.
Most evil: Lavrenty Beria, Stalin's right man and chief of secret police.

Yahew

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I did. This Ishii character was so evil he received immunity from war crimes "in exchange for germ warfare data based on human experimentation" Hardly surprising I suppose considering the good ol' US of A put all the Nazi judges back into position when the German Federal Republic was established after WW 2.

Probably, they needed judges.

Dudess

Brendog wrote: »

Unit 731


Google it.

Don't if you're not able for horrific stuff - and/or if you've a sensitive stomach.

fontanalis

fontanalis wrote: »

God racked up a body count didn't he?

In the bible he kills millions, and Satan kills ten.

So we know who the evil one really is.

Mike 1972

Dudess wrote: »

Meh, Eric Cartman is anti-semitic, so that's probably his main reason for saying virtually every Israeli is evil .

Actually it could be argued that it is in fact the Israeli state which is anti-semitic given that the Palestinians are a semitic race but not all Jews are (niether are all Jews Zionist/Israeli for that matter)

But apart from that technicality youre probably right.

KeithAFC wrote: »

Mother teresa, Ernst Boepple.

A small time swindler (albeit a hugely succesful one) and a key figure (albeit a lesser known one) in the holocaust

Hardly in the same leauge in all fairness ?

Dudess

Mike, she was a catholic nun - that's enough to constitute evil in Keith's world. I'd also recommend not to pay attention to the attention-seeker.

migozarad

Louis Walsh/Simon Cowell and their minions who peddle their equivalent of aural rape
Gengis Khan is a close second!

KeithAFC

Mike 1972 wrote: »

A small time swindler (albeit a hugely succesful one) and a key figure (albeit a lesser known one) in the holocaust

Hardly in the same leauge in all fairness ?

She brought suffering on the ill and tried to cover it up and put a front up which was to the contrary.

Archeron

Grottbags, the evil evil witch from near where Emu used to live.

Mike 1972

I know I shouldnt encourage him but.......

Dudess wrote: »

Mike, she was a catholic nun - that's enough to constitute evil in Keith's world.

In fairness he could be on to something there :pac:

studdlymurphy

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Chuck Stone

Yahew wrote: »

The alternative to Spanish fascism was not democracy but communism, and it would have been a particularly vicious communism too.

Anarcho-Syndicalism was very big pre WW2 in Spain.

4leto wrote: »

The same for Agusto Pinochet, but the CIA did a job on Allende it was a strange time in global politics. But appart from Cuba and some central American states America did succeed in keeping the red menace out of South America.

How naive of you to believe that BS.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Everyone in israel

WTF

Dudess wrote: »

Mike, she was a catholic nun - that's enough to constitute evil in Keith's world. I'd also recommend not to pay attention to the attention-seeker.

It's amazes me how many, seemingly intelligent, people don't get this and continue to feed it.

studdlymurphy

studdlymurphy wrote: »

Shirley Temple bar

Ah now, can you not put a warning on that link?!

HavingCrack

KeithAFC wrote: »

She brought suffering on the ill and tried to cover it up and put a front up which was to the contrary.

It's hardly in the same league as some of the other people mentioned here to be fair. She was a con artist, no doubt, but evil...nah.

Yahew

Everybody has been scared to say it so far but I will, we know what sinister power is behind all this: Nazzism, Communism, Extreme Capitalism, Islamism.












Bert.

ahal

I think I'd have to go with Myra Hindley and Ian Brady.

They were able to ignore a child crying and begging for her parents / for them not to hurt her as they sexually abused / tortured her. The sickos recorded it for their twisted pleasure, and amazingly the parents were put in a position where they had to listen to it during the subsequent trial.

Who needs horror movies when you have this in reality.

murraykil

In Irish history Oliver Cromwell stands out as the the most evil. Also Willie of Orange, due to the generations of evil which have followed his legacy.

HavingCrack

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Anarcho-Syndicalism was very big pre WW2 in Spain.

Actually membership of the CNT numbered something like 400,000 in 1936 while the PSUC only had 20,000 or so active members. Communism gained ground in Spain because of the appeasement of Hitler and Mussolini by the western democracies.

Dudess

"Karl Marx". :rolleyes:
Just because communism is only workable with a huge level of control, doesn't mean dreaming up the theory of such an egalitarian system makes the man evil.

Some people are choosing to interpret the thread title as "Evil in my opinion but I know they're not really evil"...

KeithM89_old

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Everyone in israel

Banned

SandraManson

Starla_o0 wrote: »

fontanalis wrote: »

God racked up a body count didn't he?

In the bible he kills millions, and Satan kills ten.

So we know who the evil one really is.

That's so true. I agree 100%.

KeithAFC

Dudess wrote: »

Mike, she was a catholic nun - that's enough to constitute evil in Keith's world. I'd also recommend not to pay attention to the attention-seeker.

Not really. A good number of people involved past and present could go onto the list from that church. Some people may disagree but many people would hold that view.

Yahew

Dudess wrote: »

"Karl Marx". :rolleyes:
Just because communism is only workable with a huge level of control, doesn't mean dreaming up the theory of such an egalitarian system makes the man evil.

Some people are choosing to interpret the thread title as "Evil in my opinion but I know they're not really evil"...

Of course it does. I think Marxism was always about controlling people by extending the power of the State to make people slaves for the State. Humans are not equal in ability, and the only way to make them equal ( a dubious moral "good" anyway) is to seize their property, liberty, and wages.

Prior to Marx there was plenty of radical socialism from St. Simeon on - in general this socialism wanted the democratic State to own the means of most of the productive capacity ( i.e. large companies, and Estates) either by the State, or - preferably - co-operatives.

However, Marx's scientific theories went beyond that: a "dictatorship of the proletariat" set to own everything, and make not an less unequal society, but a totally equal one - impossible without a slave state. He also wanted this for the entire world. There was left wing opposition to this too. Mostly from anarchists.

If you went back in time and killed Marx, you would probably kill fascism too, as it was a reaction, by the middle classes, to fear of communism. Saving most of the millions of the last century.

So yeah. Most evil man ever.

studdlymurphy

Starla_o0 wrote: »

Ah now, can you not put a warning on that link?!

I apologise for and stress caused, i have added a warning now. Please accept my apology.

Da Shins Kelly

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Have a particular hatred for Agusto Pinochet. Wanker extraordinaire. Was in Chile and spoke to a guy who saw his neighbours getting murdered right in front of his eyes when he was only a kid. The incomprehendable thing is, 50% of the population think he was great.

People are fecking weird.

Gotta agree. Studying Spanish in uni and doing Hispanic culture and history has made me realise just how terrible he was. Mass tortures, rapes and 'disappearances', and Pinochet continued to try and cover his tracks and dodge responsibility for what he did. Still, justice has not been done for the majority of crimes committed in Chile.

Gotta throw in a word for Josef Mengle too. Monstrous.

Yahew

KeithAFC wrote: »

Not really. A good number of people involved past and present could go onto the list from that church. Some people may disagree but many people would hold that view.

Some could go from that church - but most of the nastiest Christian religious bigots of this, and any century, are idealogical descendants of the Protestant revolution, particularly the British one.

KeithAFC

Yahew wrote: »

Some could go from that church - but most of the nastiest Christian religious bigots of this, and any century, are idealogical descendants of the Protestant revolution, particularly the British one.

I would disagree with that. We could go into the message the church spreads around the world on contraception and HIV and that alone would be huge in terms of numbers of people who have died.

Da Shins Kelly

Batsy wrote: »

Oliver Cromwell and Margaret Thatcher?

You must be mad to rate those two as more evil that the likes of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.

In fact, both Cromwell and Thatcher were two of the greatest politicians Britain has ever had.

Cromwell committed some terrible crimes in Ireland. He was not a good person.

Yahew

KeithAFC wrote: »

I would disagree with that. We could go into the message the church spreads around the world on contraception and HIV and that alone would be huge in terms of numbers of people who have died.

A few problems with that theory.

1) Protestants generally oppose contraception too.
2) Africa - which is the home of the AIDS epidemic - is not 100% Catholic. Very few African countries are even majority Catholic. I think 3.
3) In fact the African States with the highest rate of AIDS per capita are all ex-British colonies. South AFrica, Botswana etc.

Dudess

Ah I'd say the Roman catholic church and the conglomerate of reformed churches are pretty much even when it comes to atrocities/messed-up doctrine.

KeithAFC wrote: »

Not really. A good number of people involved past and present could go onto the list from that church.

Of course they could, but usually because of far more important/serious things than their catholicism.

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Gotta agree. Studying Spanish in uni and doing Hispanic culture and history has made me realise just how terrible he was. Mass tortures, rapes and 'disappearances', and Pinochet continued to try and cover his tracks and dodge responsibility for what he did. Still, justice has not been done for the majority of crimes committed in Chile.

And he was mates with Margaret Thatcher... yet, many people who are appalled by such dictatorships and bang on about "the free world" admire dear auld Maggie...

Dudess

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Cromwell committed some terrible crimes in Ireland. He was not a good person.

Batsy is anti Irish (yet has joined an Irish discussion forum ) - I'd recommend ignoring him and not giving him what he wants.
Some of what he says about Irish people would get him banned if it were about e.g. Nigerians.

Da Shins Kelly

Dudess wrote: »

Batsy is anti Irish (yet has joined an Irish discussion forum ) - I'd recommend ignoring him and not giving him what he wants.
Some of what he says about Irish people would get him banned if it were about e.g. Nigerians.

Noted.