Most evil person ever?

Teclo

The Highwayman wrote: »

Also why is Lenin in your list?

The Cheka, the millions he was happy to see die due to famine and disease, the Romanov murders, the persecution of the church, the establishment of a dictatorship that would murder many more millions after his death in Russia and far beyond. He was a repulsive and cowardly individual who only returned to Russia after the useful idiots did the dangerous work.

TerrorFirmer

HavingCrack wrote: »

This is actually a common misconception. Prior to WW1 Hitler was a struggling artist in Vienna. He was actually rejected from the Austro-Hungarian army on health grounds before joining the German army. He served from 1914 to 1920 when he was discharged. From then on he was a career politician. Hitler fought in WW1 but was anything but a career solider by a long way.

Bad choice of words. What I meant was that Hitler had been a soldier with experience behind his words and actions. Himmler had none, apart from training through which he struggled.

The Highwayman

Teclo wrote: »

The Cheka, the millions he was happy to see die due to famine and disease, the Romanov murders, the persecution of the church, the establishment of a dictatorship that would murder many more millions after his death in Russia and far beyond. He was a repulsive and cowardly individual who only returned to Russia after the useful idiots did the dangerous work.

The Cheka, no worse than any of the south american death squads of the 60's, 70's and 80's. Or even the CIA fighting and funding proxy wars all over the world during the cold war and since. As well as involvement in regime change, extraordinary rendition, interment in gulag's like Gizmo, torcher and murder.

The death of the Tsar and his family, the average drone strike on an Afgan wedding kills many more people than the Romanov's.

Persecution of the church, when you think about how much blood is on the hands of all religions you could argue that was a good thing.

I'm no fan of Lenin or communism and yes he was not a nice guy but he always resisted uncle Joe taking over after he died because he knew what was coming. On a list of evil people I just see him there. If you want another evil russian how about Andrei Chikatilo, The Rostov Ripper read a book about him, wow thats an evil bastard.

stan smith

henry kissinger

foxyboxer

Tony Blair. If evil had a grin, it'd be his.

FetchTheGin

The one and only...

Eramen

stan smith wrote: »

henry kissinger

Agreed, and those other guys who run Project for the new American Century.

Teclo

The Highwayman wrote: »

The Cheka, no worse than any of the south american death squads of the 60's, 70's and 80's. Or even the CIA fighting and funding proxy wars all over the world during the cold war and since. As well as involvement in regime change, extraordinary rendition, interment in gulag's like Gizmo, torcher and murder.

The death of the Tsar and his family, the average drone strike on an Afgan wedding kills many more people than the Romanov's.

Persecution of the church, when you think about how much blood is on the hands of all religions you could argue that was a good thing.

I'm no fan of Lenin or communism and yes he was not a nice guy but he always resisted uncle Joe taking over after he died because he knew what was coming. On a list of evil people I just see him there. If you want another evil russian how about Andrei Chikatilo, The Rostov Ripper read a book about him, wow thats an evil bastard.

Typical amoral nonsense from the self-hating part of the free world.

Dudess

Saying something vague and kinda cryptic and not elaborating looks really clever - and kinda mysterious. That'll learn the masses...

But anyway, Ian Paisley, Gerry Adams, Margaret Thatcher - I dislike them all, but "Most evil person ever", as in, more evil than Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mugabe... Really? Really?

jugger0 wrote: »

People forget about all the good things Hitler did.

I know. He was a good painter I believe - now if only it weren't for that pesky six million thing that keeps getting in the way, we might get to see and appreciate his paintings. :mad:

The Highwayman wrote: »

In fact your list just seems to be some names you may have heard of once and dont know anything about.

That's commonplace on this thread.

I also have a modern name for the list, Tzipi Livni. Ohhhh 10 mins and a baseball bat.

Meh, someone who isn't popular with those who back Palestine (myself included) but otherwise, not "Most evil person ever" material.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

He tried to save our country from catholicism.

Nhead wrote: »

As they say: I have never met anyone in Ireland who understood the Irish Question, except one Englishman who had only been there a week.

There are a few peeps here Nhead who like to pretend that, even though they're Irish themselves, they're superior to the rest of the Irish plebs - and demonstrate this by saying stuff like Cromwell was great, because they think it looks really enlightened or something.

Mike 1972

HavingCrack wrote: »

Prior to WW1 Hitler was a struggling artist in Vienna. He was actually rejected from the Austro-Hungarian army on health grounds before joining the German army

Thought he dodged the draft (on political grounds) and fled to Germany where he volunteered for the army there ???

maxfresh

Uday Hussein article here about him

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,454453,00.html

Dudess

Mendozaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

http://bit.ly/o0eXkt

:mad:

vampire of kilmainham

dr trevor in kilmainham gaol

ITS_A_BADGER

how about evil people?

adolf hitlers parents
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6648877&page=1

CoolHat

ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »

how about evil people?

adolf hitlers parents
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6648877&page=1

What kind of f**ked up people would name their son Adolf Hitler?

Like its obvious they were Nazi loving nutjobs. What ever to that. But by naming your son that, didnt they think they would be bringing more attention/trouble onto themselves? .. not to mention giving that kid some messed up childhood.

Oranage2

Disclaimer: not a racist


The race that commit the most heinous crimes tend to be white people so the most evil person is the white man.

HavingCrack

Oranage2 wrote: »

Disclaimer: not a racist


The race that commit the most heinous crimes tend to be white people so the most evil person is the white man.

Sigh, this is an absurd argument. Firstly an awful lot of scientists disagree on whether the concept of 'race' as is currently used really exists.

Secondly, even presuming race exists you're blaming an entire race for the actions of some people. Should every Russian person accept blame for the actions of Stalin? Every Chinese person for Mao? The entire concept is absurd.

sensibleken

HavingCrack wrote: »

Sigh, this is an absurd argument. Firstly an awful lot of scientists disagree on whether the concept of 'race' as is currently used really exists.

Secondly, even presuming race exists you're blaming an entire race for the actions of some people. Should every Russian person accept blame for the actions of Stalin? Every Chinese person for Mao? The entire concept is absurd.

i think youre taking that a little seriously

HavingCrack

sensibleken wrote: »

i think youre taking that a little seriously

Got the impression it was a serious enough thread by After Hours standards to be honest.

Oranage2

HavingCrack wrote: »

Sigh, this is an absurd argument. Firstly an awful lot of scientists disagree on whether the concept of 'race' as is currently used really exists.

Secondly, even presuming race exists you're blaming an entire race for the actions of some people. Should every Russian person accept blame for the actions of Stalin? Every Chinese person for Mao? The entire concept is absurd.

Firstly race does excist you got to be pretty colour blind not to see that!

Also ask your scienetists why black males dominate the 100 meters? surely if race didnt excist this wouldnt be the case -


Secondly, it might not be considered 'PC' to say this but I've no doubt white people possess a thing called the 'evil' gene - Out of how many people arent white on this thread? maybe 2 pol pot and mao - the rest are as milky!

Morlar

Jose Manuel Barroso. Concentrated evil.
Sepp Blather. A.D.D. evil.
Anyone who ever joined the Green party. Condescending Evil.
Jack O'Connor (Siptu). Greedy Evil.

hamlet1

John Doe1 wrote: »

A few off the top of my head:

Those two ukrainian lads in THAT snuff video

Oliver Cromwell

Margaret Thatcher

mcguinness and adams,remind me of two great white sharks

Simon Adebisi

Derek Davis

3rdDegree

Some one said Jesus, but really St Paul was far more influential in what later became The Church. Then of course Constantine turned a fringe and rather peculiar religion into the main religion of the Roman empire and that was that. For the most part, Jesus was just another of the many preachers that travelled around a rather small party of Judea. He preached The End Is Nigh. Then he did the most stupid of things, he made trouble in the temple during Passover and the Roman governor wasn't going to tolerate that at the most volatile time of the year; so he had Jesus killed. So over time they had to change all Jesus's teachings to make them about Him rather than just the end of the world (the coming of the son of man, as he often referred to it). But Paul's teaching were still mainly also about the impending doom. Any day now, eh?

So, Jesus wasn't bad. In fact, he was probable quite a nice fellow, if not a little nuts. He was a misguided fool who got himself killed for a stupid reason. It was all those who came after him who were the "evil ones".

Btw: Stalin had always been my favourite most evil person, closely followed by Chris de Burgh.

Thanks

The House Of Wolves

Joseph Mengele. There is a reason he's known as the Angel of Death.

castletownman

Lotso Hugs Bear from Toy Story 3. Heartless bastid.....

HavingCrack

Oranage2 wrote: »

Firstly race does excist you got to be pretty colour blind not to see that!

Also ask your scienetists why black males dominate the 100 meters? surely if race didnt excist this wouldnt be the case -

Sigh, so does every 'white' or 'black' person look exactly the same? Exact same skin tone, eyes, nose, features etc. The answer is clearly no. Your typical Italian, Irish, Finnish and Greek person don't look particular alike in terms of skin tone but yet they're all considered the same race? Bollocks.

As for why 'black' males dominate the 100 metres. I never said differences in genetics between humans don't exist, otherwise we would all be genetically identical. What I'm attempting to say is that 'race' as most people use the term is usually incorrect.

Oranage2 wrote: »

Secondly, it might not be considered 'PC' to say this but I've no doubt white people possess a thing called the 'evil' gene - Out of how many people arent white on this thread? maybe 2 pol pot and mao - the rest are as milky!

Oh ffs, this is pointless debating with you. The 'evil' gene, honestly...

Capt'n Midnight

Cain reputedly killed 1/4 of the worlds population.

Oranage2

HavingCrack wrote: »

Sigh, so does every 'white' or 'black' person look exactly the same? Exact same skin tone, eyes, nose, features etc. The answer is clearly no. Your typical Italian, Irish, Finnish and Greek person don't look particular alike in terms of skin tone but yet they're all considered the same race? Bollocks.

As for why 'black' males dominate the 100 metres. I never said differences in genetics between humans don't exist, otherwise we would all be genetically identical. What I'm attempting to say is that 'race' as most people use the term is usually incorrect.



Oh ffs, this is pointless debating with you. The 'evil' gene, honestly...

You've been brain washed by the media not to believe in the 'evil' gene when it was so obvious - not everybodies like this you know
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/index.html

I'll just put this down as another arguement won by Oranage2 - so far I'm 52-0

jugger0

Oranage2 wrote: »

You've been brain washed by the media not to believe in the 'evil' gene when it was so obvious - not everybodies like this you know
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/index.html

I'll just put this down as another arguement won by Oranage2 - so far I'm 52-0

White people may be a little crazy, but at least we get things done.


http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/5/0/1/been-here-40000-years-invented-a-stick.jpg

Oranage2

jugger0 wrote: »

White people may be a little crazy, but at least we get things done.


http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/5/0/1/been-here-40000-years-invented-a-stick.jpg

Well thats a load of bull and even borderline racist.

Temptamperu

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well thats a load of bull and even borderline racist.

The truth does hurt :pac:

Cee-Jay-Cee

My Primary school headmaster. He was an evil bastard. He beat senseless anyone who dared even look wrong at him. He died of a heart attack. That was a good day.

sensibleken

Skeletor!

Temptamperu

sensibleken wrote: »

Skeletor!

Surley its Mumrah

tfitzgerald

jugger0 wrote: »

White people may be a little crazy, but at least we get things done.


http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/5/0/1/been-here-40000-years-invented-a-stick.jpg

LOL very good.^^^
I think Dr Harold shipman was an evil man

johnwatt

Countess Bathory was pretty evil and they based a character in Hostel 2 on here

blackwhite

Oranage2 wrote: »

Also ask your scienetists why black males dominate the 100 meters? surely if race didnt excist this wouldnt be the case -

Might want to do your research before posting rubbish like this.

There have been numerous studies (including one publsihed only a few weeks ago) into this, and it was shown that it wasn't anything to do with race. It's purely genetics.
The dominant short-distance sprinters are predominantly Afro-Carribbean, or have parents/grandparents from Afro-Carribbean countries. Studies have shown that the vast majority of these sprinters share common genes which are believed to be descended from a tiny cluster of slave families who were transported from Africa hundreds of years ago.
Similarly, nearly all of the successful long distance runners are from the Rift Valley in East Africa (and can even be narrowed down to Nandi, a small region within the rift valley).

Race is the result of one set of genes. Other physical and personality traits come from different genes.
Whist there may be some correlation between the different sets of genes it's far too big a leap to claim that one set of genes will automatically mean that the other is present.

Rookster

Bertie Ahern

Oranage2

blackwhite wrote: »

Might want to do your research before posting rubbish like this.

There have been numerous studies (including one publsihed only a few weeks ago) into this, and it was shown that it wasn't anything to do with race. It's purely genetics.
The dominant short-distance sprinters are predominantly Afro-Carribbean, or have parents/grandparents from Afro-Carribbean countries. Studies have shown that the vast majority of these sprinters share common genes which are believed to be descended from a tiny cluster of slave families who were transported from Africa hundreds of years ago.
Similarly, nearly all of the successful long distance runners are from the Rift Valley in East Africa (and can even be narrowed down to Nandi, a small region within the rift valley).

Race is the result of one set of genes. Other physical and personality traits come from different genes.
Whist there may be some correlation between the different sets of genes it's far too big a leap to claim that one set of genes will automatically mean that the other is present.

Scienetists know so little about race and genetics that my hypothesis is as good as any!

faceman

Was listening to some History Philopher type give a talk about icons in history recently and she said that for some reason when dealing with history, people tend to categorise people as either good or bad. There is no middle ground. Therefore, facts that might cause a grey area, or show a "bad/good person" with opposing traits, are often quashed or omitted.

CiaranMT

Oranage2 wrote: »

Scienetists know so little about race and genetics that my hypothesis is as good as any!

Back to the CT forum with you.

JerryHandbag

CoolHat wrote: »

What kind of f**ked up people would name their son Adolf Hitler?

Like its obvious they were Nazi loving nutjobs. What ever to that. But by naming your son that, didnt they think they would be bringing more attention/trouble onto themselves? .. not to mention giving that kid some messed up childhood.

Nutjobs alright, even Hitlers own nephews changed their surnames when they moved to Long Island USA.

Mr Benevolent

Brian Cowen maybe? Possibly Adams or McGuinness. Steve Jobs.

anyone_local

Crab people. An underrated threat I tells ya!!

tfitzgerald

The westboro baptist church crowd are in my opinion not only headcases they are pure evil. If I said they should be shot would that make me evil as well?

copeyhagen

Ed Gein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein

Searching the house, authorities found:[13]

Four noses
Whole human bones and fragments[14]
Nine masks of human skin[15]
Bowls made from human skulls
Ten female heads with the tops sawn off
Human skin covering several chair seats
Mary Hogan's head in a paper bag[16]
Bernice Worden's head in a burlap sack[17]
Nine vulvae in a shoe box[18]
A belt made from human female nipples[19]
Skulls on his bedposts
Organs in the refrigerator
A pair of lips on a draw string for a windowshade
A lampshade made from the skin from a human face

Kanoe

I do evil quite well, take this morning for example I turned the very loud hoover on while the staff with with clients and made an exponential amount of unnecessary noise. next time they complain about my being 15 minutes late I'm going to set the radio dial to 2fm and force them to listen to the Ray Foley show on their lunch break. and glue the dial so it can't be changed.

Brendog

Her parents

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child))

uch

Ishmail on Baggot St., he didn't put enough squirty sauce on me Kebab tonight!