Chael Sonnen **Thread**

Richy06

Anyone that disputes that Sonnen is worthy of a shot based on his skills alone as well is sippin' some strange coolade.

El Guapo!

MrStuffins wrote: »

He was and this was what he was talking about, big personalities getting shots and guys like him being left behind.

I feel sorry for him because I think he's earned it time and time again but he's just not an exciting fighter. Ariel Helwani asked Dana about it and Dana said it out straight, nobody looks forward to seeing Jon Fitch fight, he's a boring fighter and he needs to take that on board.

Yeah it's not really fair on him. He is far from an exciting fighter but he does enough to grind out wins and other fighters find it hard to beat him (apart from Hendricks!:D)

But he's in a tough situation....does he continue fighting (and usually winning) the way he has been, and play it safe but never get another title shot. Or does he go out and try something new to impress the UFC brass but risk losing and still not getting a title shot.

El Guapo!

Richy06 wrote: »

Anyone that disputes that Sonnen is worthy of a shot based on his skills alone as well is sippin' some strange coolade.

He definitely has got some serious talent. Nobody else has even came close to putting a beating on Silva like he did. He would definitely be worthy of a shot even without his trash talking.

MrStuffins

Dean09 wrote: »

Yeah it's not really fair on him. He is far from an exciting fighter but he does enough to grind out wins and other fighters find it hard to beat him (apart from Hendricks!:D)

But he's in a tough situation....does he continue fighting (and usually winning) the way he has been, and play it safe but never get another title shot. Or does he go out and try something new to impress the UFC brass but risk losing and still not getting a title shot.

Hr tried that last time out. He tried blocking punches with his chin!

Dermighty

Dean09 wrote: »

Both Jones and JDS would destroy Sonnen.

I doubt they would destroy him.

El Guapo!

Dermighty wrote: »

I doubt they would destroy him.

Jones has superior striking and has an excellent wrestling background. Maybe he's not as decorated a wrestler as Sonnen but his wrestling background along with his striking skills, his size and reach and awkward style would be a nightmare for Sonnen.

JDS has some of the best hands in the UFC. His striking is superior to Sonnen. The only downfall he may have is in the wrestling department. But then as a brown belt (I think?) in bjj he'd be well able for Sonnen on the ground too.

Dermighty

Yeah, I'm not saying Sonnen couldn't lose, just that he has a good chin and outstanding grappling.

I think either Jones or JDS would be a more interesting fight than Silva, as great as Silva is I hate watching him fight, he's boring, and has his head up his ass.

Logical Fallacy

I don't see Chael going up in weight and winning a belt i have to say.

I'd rather see him hang on where he is, continue to work on his submissions game. Except for the submission of Stan his entire UFC run has been filled with decision wins...I'd like to see him becoming more prominent at finishing fights in the UFC before taking on guys who could end the fight with one cross or one elbow.

Chael is an interesting cat, beyond his strong showing against Silva where he was still unable to finish a fight he largely dominated, but all of a sudden he has people talking him up against Jones, who has completely destroyed 3 former champs in his weight class in a row, and JDS.

No wonder he was in real estate, the guy can sell a concept.

Tubbs4

He is getting CM punk to walk him out for his next fight. Hope its only a joke but it appears on a good few mea sites.

riffmongous

I dont think you need to worry too much dean, anyone remember that alex reid fight from a few months ago where they tried a big fake storyline, that looked awful.

MrStuffins

riffmongous wrote: »

I dont think you need to worry too much dean, anyone remember that alex reid fight from a few months ago where they tried a big fake storyline, that looked awful.

OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did you have to remind me of that? I'd expelled it from my brain

riffmongous

MrStuffins wrote: »

riffmongous wrote: »

I dont think you need to worry too much dean, anyone remember that alex reid fight from a few months ago where they tried a big fake storyline, that looked awful.

OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did you have to remind me of that? I'd expelled it from my brain

Unfortunately it is one of those things that has to be remembered so that it is never repeated

scudzilla

Sure this thread will get interesting over the next few weeks :pac::pac::pac:

Mellor

Yeah, I'm expecting great things here.

CageWager

Bisping is in for a verbal beatdown! and then a real one..

canonball5

And so it begins!!!!

Spent months training to fight Munoz and now I have to fight a guy who sounds like "PIP" from South Park.

Professey Chin

Chael Sonnen - Undefeated Middleweight Champion interview (with belt :pac:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF5BIBh-mSM

dave1982

tweet:D

Hey Gov'nor, I'll finish you faster than you can devour a Bovril & pie, u doughy wanker. Just because u have a Queen doesn't make it English

dave1982

Appantly Chaels pissed over something, must wait for mermaid to post the video

Professey Chin

He reallllllly does not like Kenny Rice :pac:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/01/25/chael-sonnen-goes-off-on-mma-media-outlet/

MrStuffins

The Great Chinholio wrote: »

He reallllllly does not like Kenny Rice :pac:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/01/25/chael-sonnen-goes-off-on-mma-media-outlet/

Wow!

Niall0

The Great Chinholio wrote: »

He reallllllly does not like Kenny Rice :pac:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/01/25/chael-sonnen-goes-off-on-mma-media-outlet/

What did Kenny do to piss him off so much?

Mellor

Niall0 wrote: »

What did Kenny do to piss him off so much?

I imagine he lied

Professey Chin

Ariel:"This reminds me of that story you told me before about a bus"
Chael: "No. That really happened!"

Shazbot

Some very strange comments lately.
I'm starting to lose interest in his interviews. His antics seem to be spiraling out from initially funny to down right strange.

As a fighter he's great though. I would really like to see him finish Bisping but I'd predict a decision win.

nino1

Think it was this article that pissed him off
http://www.hd.net/blogs/rasslin-has-no-place-in-mma/

stealinhorses

"Watcha gonna do, when you know who?
How you gonna deal with the Man of Steel?
How will you react to Sonnen's attack?"

Can't wait for it!

Ian Whelan

Just saw this:

http://www.mmashareforum.com/serious-mma-videos-f35/chael-sonnen-post-fight-interview-with-joe-rogan-t51821.html

Obviously where Sonnen nicked the script of his post-fight interview with Joe Rogan from.

O.P.H

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylcE7m0SbNQ

would like ta know how or what makes him decide to go mental sometimes or just decide ta be sound other times

riffmongous

I think its usually pretty simple, if the focus of the interview is on an opponent who is not Anderson Silva he sounds pretty sincere and respectful.

leggo

O.P.H wrote: »

would like ta know how or what makes him decide to go mental sometimes or just decide ta be sound other times

Because calling out Anderson earns both of them bucketloads of cash (he even spoke about breaking records in that last interview). The reason I like Chael is that, while entertaining, he also seems a genuinely cool, humble, intelligent guy. Just a dude who likes to take the piss, mess and make a lot money doing so in the process. Is that not what we'd all love to be if we were in his spot, with his undeniable talent?

Logical Fallacy

leggo wrote: »

he also seems a genuinely cool, humble, intelligent guy

Yeah, i'd say Chael is great once you are not trying to buy a house off him.

Ian Whelan

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Yeah, i'd say Chael is great once you are not trying to buy a house off him.

I understood that he wasn't actually ripping off the purchaser of the house but was instead arranging a cash incentive to encourage the sale.

scudzilla

Ian Whelan wrote: »

I understood that he wasn't actually ripping off the purchaser of the house but was instead arranging a cash incentive to encourage the sale.

Yeah, that's what I understood too, that sorta thing happens daily here wit no bother, just that America are so anal about that sorta thing

Mellor

I thought it was organising the imaginary sales for the purposes of tax breaks and relief.

scudzilla

And so it begins :pac::pac::pac::pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDIb_BxYCI8

califano

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Yeah, i'd say Chael is great once you are not trying to buy a house off him.

Ian Whelan wrote: »

I understood that he wasn't actually ripping off the purchaser of the house but was instead arranging a cash incentive to encourage the sale.

Linky?

Ian Whelan

rounders123 wrote: »

Linky?

I don't have one, I just remember the news reports from the time. I remember that he was basically getting more money for the buyer from the mortgage company.

I think this explains it: http://www.lakeoswegoreview.com/news/story.php?story_id=129410490911120000

Mellor

rounders123 wrote: »

Linky?

check his wiki its mentinoed there and should be a source at the bottom

Professey Chin

His segment from UFC Tonight explains Fighters and lying :pac:

"Fighters have recently seen it as their quasi-job to continually put out misinformation. They just refuse to answer a question head-on. You know there's a tremendous difference with what fighters say versus what they mean.

For example 'I don't want to leave it in the hands of the judges' means 'I didn't train to go three rounds.' Uh, 'I'm surrounded with a new team in camp' means 'all my old friends abandoned me.' Uh, 'I need to go to training camp to be in seclusion' means 'My wife and kids are driving me nuts.'

I don't understand why fighters don't just talk plainly. In my last fight, I took on a gentleman named Michael Bisping. He hit me very hard and it hurt...a lot. People are shocked that I would admit that. Because they're all so used to lying. Well, guess what? If a guy hits you hard and it hurts, is your ego so small that you can't pay him a compliment? Is your ego so fragile that you can't say 'Look, I had my bell rung in the middle of a fistfight?' It kind of seems like a normal thing to happen, to me.

I expect to be hit hard, I expect to be kick hard. I don't need to hide from those things. Let's be objective, let's look at things head on and try to figure out what happened. If he threw a great punch, maybe I can break down the video and learn how to throw it myself. If he threw a bad punch and it hurt, maybe I need to learn how to get out of the way. But I don't need to come to the media and lie"

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/4/4/2924870/ufc-chael-sonnen-fighters-lie-media-fuel-tv

Zero-Cool

And what does it mean when they say 'I am the UFC Middleweight Champ' :pac:

I want to buy his book though.

El Guapo!

:D

@mayhemmiller
Jason Mayhem Miller Chael berating someone on their test level is like me making fun of someone's bad haircut

@sonnench
chael sonnen MayHem: Due to time constraints I am currently confining my Twitter wars to active, relevant, fighters ONLY. Buy a T-shirt on your way out.

I wonder if Mayhem is looking to start a twitter war to get a fight with Sonnen. Not that he'd deserve one after his last performance.

themandan6611

Dean09 wrote: »

I wonder if Mayhem is looking to start a twitter war to get a fight with Sonnen. Not that he'd deserve one after his last performance.

Miller ain't in the same league as Sonnen, his cardio is rubbish and with Sonnen's non-stop pressure he would be toast

scudzilla

So Miller wants a title shot then? Ain't gonna happen

El Guapo!

I have to agree.
Miller wouldn't stand a chance against Sonnen. He's not even near top 10.
He can talk all he wants but if he wants Sonnen he'll have to prove himself in the cage rather than on Twitter.
A back and forth Twitter war between those two would be great though!

Leeg17

I've only seen 2 tweets, but I want MORE!

Mr. Manager

@sonnench don't worry-you're a beatdown away from obscurity. I'll be happy to beat your head in-that's if it's not still on a pike in Rio

Seriously, what planet is this kid living on? Sonnen would end what's left of his career...

El Guapo!

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

@sonnench don't worry-you're a beatdown away from obscurity. I'll be happy to beat your head in-that's if it's not still on a pike in Rio

Seriously, what planet is this kid living on? Sonnen would end what's left of his career...

He has to be trying to talk his way into a big money fight. There's no way he can actually believe he can beat Sonnen. He must be looking for some retirement money.

Shazbot

Sonnen beat Miller before and it would probably go the same way a second time. Miller would have a chance though.Miller's BJJ is good enough to catch a sloppy Sonnen.

I think people are being to harsh on Miller with regards to his cardio. He looked awful against Bisping but he has gone 5 rounds and not looked as bad.

Mr. Manager

Shazbot wrote: »

Sonnen beat Miller before and it would probably go the same way a second time. Miller would have a chance though.Miller's BJJ is good enough to catch a sloppy Sonnen.

I think people are being to harsh on Miller with regards to his cardio. He looked awful against Bisping but he has gone 5 rounds and not looked as bad.

With the biggest fight of his life coming up in a few months I don't think you'll ever find a sloppy Sonnen.