New Limerick City Centre

hightower1

DarkJager wrote: »

Pedestrianised streets don't bring shoppers in to the city, they deter them.

Source?
IMO , sure, it MAY deter some people from visting the city center but what it would do is entice people already living in the city center to stay there to shop rather than heading out to a shopping center.

So ... no ... pedestrianised streets dont deter people from shopping in the city, the lack of parking due to pedestrionisation may deter them but not the pedestrionisation of the streets themselves. People dont shop from their cars driving up and down streets.

phog

DarkJager wrote: »

Pedestrianised streets don't bring shoppers in to the city, they deter them.

Yea, Grafton St in Dublin and Buchannan St in Glasgow have proved that beyond doubt.

Poxyshamrock

Pedestrianisation is nice in hindsight but come 6 o'clock in Limerick they are very isolated places. Take Cruises Street for example.

Taxi ranks, bus stops and passing traffic give the streets a bit of life.

kilburn

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

Pedestrianisation is nice in hindsight but come 6 o'clock in Limerick they are very isolated places. Take Cruises Street for example.

Taxi ranks, bus stops and passing traffic give the streets a bit of life.

Depends really what is on the streets, cafes, pubs, hotels as to whether or not they are isolated, Cruises St was a disaster from day one

constantg

hightower1 wrote: »

Source?
IMO , sure, it MAY deter some people from visting the city center but what it would do is entice people already living in the city center to stay there to shop rather than heading out to a shopping center.

So ... no ... pedestrianised streets dont deter people from shopping in the city, the lack of parking due to pedestrionisation may deter them but not the pedestrionisation of the streets themselves. People dont shop from their cars driving up and down streets.

The crescent is pedestrianised, pers i think that idea that pedestrianised streets are bad is silly. Grafton/Henry/Shop/Queen (Cardiff) Street, Paul Street in Cork, Oliver Plunkett Street.....

Simon Adebisi

kilburn wrote: »

Depends really what is on the streets, cafes, pubs, hotels as to whether or not they are isolated, Cruises St was a disaster from day one

Bewleys kept the place moving. But its been closed, what, 5 or 6 years now. Probably even more.

Kess73

kilburn wrote: »

Depends really what is on the streets, cafes, pubs, hotels as to whether or not they are isolated, Cruises St was a disaster from day one

The bit in bold hits the nail on the head. Pedestrianised live or die by what shops and services are on them. Build a pedestrianised area without having a new core of retailers and service providers lined up, and simply go with what is already there and failing is a sure fire way to make things even worse.


But build a pedestrianised area which has new retailers and services signed on from day one and make it a modern pedestrainised area that can cope with weather etc., and that area has a very good chance of being a major hit.

If O'Connell street gets pedestrainised and no real effort bar the usual lip service through media outlets gets put into things like new retailers/services and weather buffers, then it will kill the city centre quicker than any out of city shopping centre could ever do.

A hell of a lot rides on the O'Connell street project, I just hope that the planners/Local authorities etc have more up their sleeves than just new footpaths, seats and trees.

roast

Melion wrote: »

Why are people asking for new music shops? HMV has the monopoly on that market and its dying a slow death. People dont buy music anymore(in shops anyway) and the likelihood of a little back alley shop opening and staying afloat are very slim.

HMV don't offer much in the way of diversity. They sell enough mainstream/chart records to keep them afloat, but there's nothing sold in there that would interest me or a lot of my friends. No Vinyl either. If there was a store in Limerick that catered for a wide range of genres other than the usual chart/mainstream/top sellers stuff, I imagine it would be fine. The bookshop above that religious store on Catherine street stocks Vinyl, but only stuff that's received second hand. If we had a Limerick version of Dublin's Into The Void records, that'd be a big plus I reckon.

Melion wrote: »

More Gardai - Why? The ones that are on the street are seen as a joke anyway so why add to it? The scum of Limerick arent afraid of them and why should they be? Most of them look like a strong breeze would knock them over. They dont command respect and therefore arent shown any.

Then instead of more Gardai, replace the **** ones? :pac:

Melion wrote: »

Cinema - Why and Where? There is nothing wrong with the Omniplex or Storm, both are a 5 minute drive from town. A cinema in town would just attract the scum like the Savoy used to.

Nothing wrong with those cinemas. But IMO if people are hanging around town, with nothing to do, there's a higher chance they'll be lazy and stay in and around the city center, than bother taking the short bus journey out to either cinema. The Omniplex, not so much, but Storm, yeah.

Cityslicker1

I don't think they should pedestrianise O' Connell Street as it is too wide and there are no shops (maybe one or 2) or restaurants on it (on the section they have decided to pedestrianise). Only for the traffic flow in the city centre at the moment it would basically be dead especially after 6 O' clock. If anything they should have looked into the idea of pedestrianising William Street and really invested in it and make it the main shopping street in Limerick as there are many decent shops already there(plus Cruises Street is linked to that whole area which makes it a shopping area). Look at the other main cities in the country..Corks main street hasn't been pedestrianised only made more pedestrian friendly, O' Connell Street in Dublin has the same idea. I would be behind the project if that section of the street was full of shops and restaurants but it's not and I really don't think after it's completion that it will attract new shops as the units are already occupied by BT, Bank of Ireland etc