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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Newsite wrote: »
    Exactly - and you're not confused OP - don't try to fool yourself - you're not fooling anyone else. To think of your wife you promised to love and obey at home and you out indulging yourself - pretty sick. Give it up!
    Infracted. Please do not attack another poster and tell him he is sick

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    Infracted. Please do not attack another poster and tell him he is sick

    I meant 'it' is sick - read my post again. Just like the previous poster who said it's disgusting and didn't receive an infraction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭DubArk


    I suppose it's a simple question of either giving into my desire or denying it. Is this something lots of people encounter? What have people done about it before - would counselling help or something like that? ......

    Wow! I’m amazed that people feel so passionate about taking the moral high ground, when the decision is clearly the OP’s.
    The OP at least is very honest in their post and has shared their deepest thoughts with us, looking for advice and wondering if others have had the same experiences. I haven’t had the same experiences and therefore can’t relate to their mindset but I have a partner of many years who I believe is in a monogamous loyal relationship with me but without stating the bleeding obvious, these are my experience and not the OPs.
    I would imagine there are many who do empathise with the OP but might be afraid to express themselves and share there real thoughts for fear of been shot down by the Moral brigade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Newsite wrote: »
    I meant 'it' is sick - read my post again. Just like the previous poster who said it's disgusting and didn't receive an infraction.

    Please familiarize yourself with the forum charter. We don't discuss moderation in the thread. If you want to discuss why you got an infraction send me a pm

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    DubArk wrote: »
    Wow! I’m amazed that people feel so passionate about taking the moral high ground, when the decision is clearly the OP’s.
    The OP at least is very honest in their post and has shared their deepest thoughts with us, looking for advice and wondering if others have had the same experiences. I haven’t had the same experiences and therefore can’t relate to their mindset but I have a partner of many years who I believe is in a monogamous loyal relationship with me but without stating the bleeding obvious, these are my experience and not the OPs.
    I would imagine there are many who do empathise with the OP but might be afraid to express themselves and share there real thoughts for fear of been shot down by the Moral brigade.

    You're amazed because these days it's all about what we 'feel' like doing, instead of what's right and what's not. Nothing to do with the 'moral brigade', as you put it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭floggg


    I imagine it's as much to do as recognising that life isn't black and white, good people make mistakes, sexuality can be confusing and can lead people to make mistakes.

    It's easy to sit in judgment, but in the right circumstances many of us would make the wrong decisions.

    OP came here trying to figure things out. Maybe it might do his wife more good to offer him constructive advice so he can figure out what he wants without carrying on behind her back, rather than just telling him how bad a person he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭DubArk


    Newsite wrote: »
    You're amazed because these days it's all about what we 'feel' like doing, instead of what's right and what's not.

    I think I clearly stated in my post what I was amazed at and it wasn’t your interpretation.
    Newsite wrote: »
    Nothing to do with the 'moral brigade', as you put it.

    Morals” Rules or habits of conduct, especially of sexual conduct, with reference to standards of right and wrong”
    I put it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Meesared


    Might I add Newsite is a regular contributer to the Gay Marriage thread in the Christian Forum, and is very opposed to it, im not sure this forum is the place for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    Meesared wrote: »
    Might I add Newsite is a regular contributer to the Gay Marriage thread in the Christian Forum, and is very opposed to it, im not sure this forum is the place for them.

    Yes and that's why I got a rap on the knuckles and the other poster (who told the OP to 'shut up', indeed) didn't.

    Nice suggestion that :) Well I guess I'm opposed to cheating on your wife as well ya know, not just gay marriage. Plus, do you reckon I'm not acting in his interests by telling him to stop? Would you prefer me to say 'I understand your turmoil, keep doing what you're doing'?

    I don't anyone would argue that doing what he's doing is going to work out well for anyone, least of all him!

    Anyway, I've said my piece and hopefully the OP will give it some thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Meesared


    I dont think anyone here agrees with what the OP was doing, so get off your moral high horse.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    Meesared wrote: »
    I dont think anyone here agrees with what the OP was doing, so get off your moral high horse.

    Nice tone there. I don't see you disagreeing with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    It's funny that judging others is probably one of the most unchristian thongs you can do, yet so many who profess to be just that think it's their god given right to do so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    stephen_n wrote: »
    It's funny that judging others is probably one of the most unchristian thongs you can do, yet so many who profess to be just that think it's their god given right to do so!

    Massively common misconception. It's one of THEE most Christian things you can do. It's judging according to God's standard - not our own, human standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭floggg


    Christianity encourages judgment?

    So that whole "let he without sin cast the first stone" thing was a lie?

    Now I'm going out on a limb here newsite, but I'm guessing your not perfect yourself. Not that I'd expect anybody to be, but seeing as you have probably done stuff in the past that you shouldn't, why do you feel that you can or should judge others for their mistakes?

    What I don't get about the overly judgmental types is how empty their life must be when they need to feel better about themselves looking down on others. Surely trying to offer some constructive non judgmental advice to a sinner would be better way to go, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Meesared


    Newsite wrote: »
    Nice tone there. I don't see you disagreeing with it.
    Oh seriously? I do disagree with it. Dont put words in my mouth, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Meesared


    Meesared wrote: »
    Oh seriously? I do disagree with it. Dont put words in my mouth, thanks.
    Also this isnt a thread about christianity, and posters with ulterior motives should go else where, where they are less likely to cause offence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭DubArk


    Meesared wrote: »
    Also this isnt a thread about christianity, and posters with ulterior motives should go else where, where they are less likely to cause offence

    Bye bye then. God Bless! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Meesared


    DubArk wrote: »
    Bye bye then. God Bless! :D
    Sorry? I'm confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 MrPieman


    Stop being gay. Think of baby Jesus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭floggg


    MrPieman wrote: »
    Stop being gay. Think of baby Jesus.

    So we should turn away from impure thoughts about men and think of children instead?

    No thanks. That sort of thinking is the reason why the catholic church is in the mess it is today!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 MrPieman


    Listen floggg, its not that black and white, the chrildren are the future. The OP needs to look at the man in the mirror and stop being bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    MrPieman wrote: »
    Listen floggg, its not that black and white, the chrildren are the future. The OP needs to look at the man in the mirror and stop being bad

    lol

    In before the lock :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭DubArk


    Meesared wrote: »
    Sorry? I'm confused.


    Now you're talking..... get it off your chest and tell us all about it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    floggg wrote: »
    Christianity encourages judgment?

    So that whole "let he without sin cast the first stone" thing was a lie?

    Now I'm going out on a limb here newsite, but I'm guessing your not perfect yourself. Not that I'd expect anybody to be, but seeing as you have probably done stuff in the past that you shouldn't, why do you feel that you can or should judge others for their mistakes?

    What I don't get about the overly judgmental types is how empty their life must be when they need to feel better about themselves looking down on others. Surely trying to offer some constructive non judgmental advice to a sinner would be better way to go, no?

    It's not much of a limb - I'm not perfect myself is probably a big understatement. But each day I ask myself - 'is what I'm going to do today, in the next few hours, in keeping with what God demands'?

    The amusing irony of these exchanges is that in responding to someone judging someone else, the indignant person (in this case, you), is guilty of judging immediately afterwards! Look at your post again where you judge me of:

    1) not being perfect (although good call btw)

    2) your judgement is also - 'how empty my life must be' (completely the opposite as it happens, even if I am posting on Boards at 3pm on a Friday....oops I've nearly gone and judged you in the process there :)

    3) you've also judged that judging others is a way for me to feel better about myself (not true either for the record).
    floggg wrote: »
    Surely trying to offer some constructive non judgmental advice to a sinner would be better way to go, no?

    No (although I realise that's what 99.99% of people would say) - and that's the whole point.

    It's actually kinda interesting. I would probably have agreed with your 'don't judge' people thing, up until a few weeks ago, when my eyes were opened. The 'judge not lest ye be judged' line does NOT mean 'don't ever judge at all' - but it is used as such by those who don't have the full picture or context. 'Judge not, lest ye be judged' is the very first line of Matthew 7 - and the 'everything is relative' brigade just use this solitary line out of context. If only they would read on a bit:

    1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. From here

    The above verses are addressed to a hypocrite who went around judging people of doing evil when he was doing the same things. Just look at verse 3 and 4. Do not judge another person before judging yourself. A good example would be a bank robber. A person who robs banks for a living should not go around judging other people who robs banks.

    Another important verse is John 7:24, where God does indeed tell us to judge: Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

    So in other words, not according to what YOU think is wrong (which is what gets people riled up), but according to what God says (AFTER you have taken a good long look at yourself and are willing to be judged by the same standards; i.e. 'lest ye be judged', and 'For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭DubArk


    ^
    Spoke to soon! Going for a G&T....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 MrPieman


    Newsite, u sound like a virgin to me. Don't preach about what God demands, I demand that fag should have the gay sex he wants. GAY POWER


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    MrPieman infracted for inappropriate language and breaking the forum charter.

    Thread locked as it had run it's course and gone wildly off topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Meesared wrote: »
    Also this isnt a thread about christianity, and posters with ulterior motives should go else where, where they are less likely to cause offence
    please do not back seat moderate. please report any posts you have concerns with

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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